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  • L leppie

    Simon P Stevens wrote:

    I've got a 800x600 LCD panel with no controller that's currently just sitting under my desk, I wonder if I could get an Arduino to drive that. I've got a full manual for it that includes all the timing info. hmmm....

    If it has the standard 18-20 connections for communication, it might work.

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    leppie wrote:

    18-20 connections

    Nope. 31. It's an NEC NL6448BC20-08 - See page 7 for pin connections[^] It's got full input signal timing information in the manual, so surely I should be able to figure out how to drive it even if the standard libraries don't support it. (It's 640x480, not 800x600 as I originally said)

    Simon

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      leppie wrote:

      18-20 connections

      Nope. 31. It's an NEC NL6448BC20-08 - See page 7 for pin connections[^] It's got full input signal timing information in the manual, so surely I should be able to figure out how to drive it even if the standard libraries don't support it. (It's 640x480, not 800x600 as I originally said)

      Simon

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      It seems that has an RGB input. From what I can see 6 bit's per color. #1 Arduino does not have that many pins, you might have better luck using an I/O expander like MCP23x1x series or a shift register. #2 Due to large screen size, it might be hard for the Arduino to keep up filling that huge space. #3 You need a 25Mhz clock, not possible on Arduino... :( Would be cool to get something going, look at some low res TV/VGA circuits.

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        Or this[^] looks cool too!

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        Oh yes! I want! Slave that to a CCTV and the Jehovahs Witnesses will have no chance :-D

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          Oh yes! I want! Slave that to a CCTV and the Jehovahs Witnesses will have no chance :-D

          Did you know: That by counting the rings on a tree trunk, you can tell how many other trees it has slept with.

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          I want one for the unspayed male cat causing shit in our street...

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            It seems that has an RGB input. From what I can see 6 bit's per color. #1 Arduino does not have that many pins, you might have better luck using an I/O expander like MCP23x1x series or a shift register. #2 Due to large screen size, it might be hard for the Arduino to keep up filling that huge space. #3 You need a 25Mhz clock, not possible on Arduino... :( Would be cool to get something going, look at some low res TV/VGA circuits.

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            Simon P Stevens
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            leppie wrote:

            #1 Arduino does not have that many pins

            Yeah, I had thought I might be able to use some kind of serial to parallel converter and drive each 6 bit rgb from a single pin.

            leppie wrote:

            #2 Due to large screen size

            That's where I buy a second unit to handle driving the screen, and just handoff drawing commands to it.

            leppie wrote:

            #3 You need a 25Mhz clock, not possible on Arduino...

            Doh. Hadn't noticed that. Sounds like it's getting out of my depth. Back to flashing LEDs.

            leppie wrote:

            TV/VGA circuits

            I've seen some nifty PAL/NTSC tv drivers for Ardunio, I'll probably end up looking into them if I need my remote controlled sharks to have visual output.

            Simon

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              I ordered my first Arduino[^] at the weekend. Trying to decide what I should build first. I'm split between remote controlled sharks with fricking laaaazer beams or some robots in disguise that have more to them than meets the eye. ;) Any tips?

              Simon

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              Mike Hankey
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              Welcome to the world of uControllers. I've had mine for a while now and love it. There are plenty of tuts and projects to be had by googling. If your just starting out you may want to check out this article on my site to set up programming environment[^]. It says for the ATMega1280 buts it applies to most boards. Good luck and enjoy, Mike

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              • S Simon P Stevens

                I ordered my first Arduino[^] at the weekend. Trying to decide what I should build first. I'm split between remote controlled sharks with fricking laaaazer beams or some robots in disguise that have more to them than meets the eye. ;) Any tips?

                Simon

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                Steve Mayfield
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                Here[^] is another very inexpensive development platform based on the TI MSP430 family - only $4.30 for the hardware and the development software can be downloaded for free from the Texas Instruments website. The board includes an on-board flash emulation tool which makes software development a snap...

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                • S Simon P Stevens

                  I ordered my first Arduino[^] at the weekend. Trying to decide what I should build first. I'm split between remote controlled sharks with fricking laaaazer beams or some robots in disguise that have more to them than meets the eye. ;) Any tips?

                  Simon

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                  halciber
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                  I love the arduino. This weekend I got a grill, and thought: I could use a temperature sensor. The ideas didn't stop there. I started thinking about the advantage of having multiple sensors in the grill, and using a display for the output. If you like to cook, this could be a fun project. Enjoy

                  Mike Goldweber

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    Welcome to the world of uControllers. I've had mine for a while now and love it. There are plenty of tuts and projects to be had by googling. If your just starting out you may want to check out this article on my site to set up programming environment[^]. It says for the ATMega1280 buts it applies to most boards. Good luck and enjoy, Mike

                    Age doesn't make you forgetful. Having way too many stupid things to remember makes you forgetful. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                    halciber
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                    Thanks for mentioning the programming environment web page. I didn't know about these other tools. Sincerely, Mike

                    Mike Goldweber

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                      Thanks for mentioning the programming environment web page. I didn't know about these other tools. Sincerely, Mike

                      Mike Goldweber

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                      Mike, Glad it helped. Mike

                      Age doesn't make you forgetful. Having way too many stupid things to remember makes you forgetful. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                      • S Simon P Stevens

                        I ordered my first Arduino[^] at the weekend. Trying to decide what I should build first. I'm split between remote controlled sharks with fricking laaaazer beams or some robots in disguise that have more to them than meets the eye. ;) Any tips?

                        Simon

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                        stephen hazel
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                        I don't know what to DO for a project, but for platform I gotta Chameleon: http://www.xgamestation.com/view_product.php?id=51[^] An AVR -and- a Propeller on one board with all support circuitry including plenty of memory.

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                        • S Simon P Stevens

                          I ordered my first Arduino[^] at the weekend. Trying to decide what I should build first. I'm split between remote controlled sharks with fricking laaaazer beams or some robots in disguise that have more to them than meets the eye. ;) Any tips?

                          Simon

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                          Lilith C
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                          I've always wanted to use something like that to build an LED waterfall with changing light sequences embedded at the top of the water flow.

                          I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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                            I don't know what to DO for a project, but for platform I gotta Chameleon: http://www.xgamestation.com/view_product.php?id=51[^] An AVR -and- a Propeller on one board with all support circuitry including plenty of memory.

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                            Mike Hankey
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                            Nice, a lot of horse power..Have you done anything with it? Mike

                            Age doesn't make you forgetful. Having way too many stupid things to remember makes you forgetful. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                              Nice, a lot of horse power..Have you done anything with it? Mike

                              Age doesn't make you forgetful. Having way too many stupid things to remember makes you forgetful. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                              stephen hazel
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                              Fraid not. It comes with a TON of demo projects to try. But as cool as that thing is, my priority is http://pianocheater.com[^] And I can't seem to justify any free time away from it for doin uC stuff :(( Well, technically, :-D I like my lil sequencer:thumbsup:

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                                Fraid not. It comes with a TON of demo projects to try. But as cool as that thing is, my priority is http://pianocheater.com[^] And I can't seem to justify any free time away from it for doin uC stuff :(( Well, technically, :-D I like my lil sequencer:thumbsup:

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                                Nice app I can see why you don't have any free time. I've found that the uC does take a lot of time and the learning curve can be steep, depending on what you expect to get out of it. Mike

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                                  Nice app I can see why you don't have any free time. I've found that the uC does take a lot of time and the learning curve can be steep, depending on what you expect to get out of it. Mike

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                                  It IS a pretty cool app (biased a little) :rolleyes: The AVR doesn't have tooo much of a learning curve if ya know C already. Well, ok, the timer,"somewhat remote" flash memory for data,interrupts... That propeller is wierd. It's "spin" language is a wierd combination of basic and c++ or SOMEthin. Has 8 threads (processes?) running INSTEAD of interrupts. Anyways, my project is gonna be a 4 legged robot. google "issy done yet" or somethin. I forget the link... Buuuut, that won't be for about 2 years I'm guessin:)

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                                    It IS a pretty cool app (biased a little) :rolleyes: The AVR doesn't have tooo much of a learning curve if ya know C already. Well, ok, the timer,"somewhat remote" flash memory for data,interrupts... That propeller is wierd. It's "spin" language is a wierd combination of basic and c++ or SOMEthin. Has 8 threads (processes?) running INSTEAD of interrupts. Anyways, my project is gonna be a 4 legged robot. google "issy done yet" or somethin. I forget the link... Buuuut, that won't be for about 2 years I'm guessin:)

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                                    If it's This one?[^] that's a pretty ambitious project.

                                    stephen.hazel wrote:

                                    That propeller is wierd. It's "spin" language is a wierd combination of basic and c++ or SOMEthin. Has 8 threads (processes?) running INSTEAD of interrupts.

                                    Yeah I was reading about it in the first link you had and it's definitely a different animal than the AVR line. The software is pretty easy, I've done Assembler, C and C++ pretty extensively over the years (been a while so have to refresh) and the electronics (some experience but many years so more than a refresh), making the PC boards, the mechanics, etc.. Just a lot of different areas of expertise that even though I'm a pretty hands on guy it is a lot to absorb. Plus I'm older and have CRS (Can't remember s&^t) so makes it challenging. But over all it's worth the effort. Don't know as I'll ever do the walking robot thing but went to the flea market a couple of weeks ago and got an RC car without remote for $2 and had a board hooked into it and chasing the cat around the living room by days end. (I love to torment the cat, he gets his revenge) Mike

                                    Age doesn't make you forgetful. Having way too many stupid things to remember makes you forgetful. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                                      If it's This one?[^] that's a pretty ambitious project.

                                      stephen.hazel wrote:

                                      That propeller is wierd. It's "spin" language is a wierd combination of basic and c++ or SOMEthin. Has 8 threads (processes?) running INSTEAD of interrupts.

                                      Yeah I was reading about it in the first link you had and it's definitely a different animal than the AVR line. The software is pretty easy, I've done Assembler, C and C++ pretty extensively over the years (been a while so have to refresh) and the electronics (some experience but many years so more than a refresh), making the PC boards, the mechanics, etc.. Just a lot of different areas of expertise that even though I'm a pretty hands on guy it is a lot to absorb. Plus I'm older and have CRS (Can't remember s&^t) so makes it challenging. But over all it's worth the effort. Don't know as I'll ever do the walking robot thing but went to the flea market a couple of weeks ago and got an RC car without remote for $2 and had a board hooked into it and chasing the cat around the living room by days end. (I love to torment the cat, he gets his revenge) Mike

                                      Age doesn't make you forgetful. Having way too many stupid things to remember makes you forgetful. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                                      stephen hazel
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                                      Yeah, that's the one. Not the full scale thing tho. Probably just 2 ax-12+ servos per leg. Side to side and up/down fixed 90 degree legs. You can buy em seperately from the full scale robot kit. (again, i forget the name of the kit - robot magazine will find it gREAT magazine) Arbotix controller (which has an avr+zigbe wifi) No top half like he added with the lazer,sight stuff. Soooomethin like that. We'll seeee...

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