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  • R Roger Wright

    I don't know about that. Our school had a remarkable cross-section of people. I was the only adult with a technical background, but the instructor was a nurse, we had several cops, a couple of school teachers, some casino guards, but others worked at Walmart, flipped burgers, refinished boats - you name it. An eclectic group, to say the least. A lot of the attraction is, as others have said, the opportunity to challenge oneself and develop according to personal goals, rather than being in competition with others. Yet competition was always there, and when our people entered tournaments held locally by large, out of town groups, they always took several, if not most, of the top honors in full contact fighting. It's really hard to pin down a simple reason. For me it was health - my knees were getting weak with age, and no exercise has ever appealed to me. When a friend's child expressed interest in it, I joined up to keep her company (and keep an eye on her). When she quit, I kept on for years simply because I felt so much better than ever before in my life - no more knee troubles, and a heart problem disappeared. Now that the school has been closed for two and a half years I'm losing my flexibility again, getting flabby and listless, and hating it. But nothing has come to town to replace it, and I hate gyms. :sigh:

    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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    Roger Wright wrote:

    But nothing has come to town to replace it, and I hate gyms.

    but Wogger, you can checkout chicks at the gym ;) B

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    • A Anthony Mushrow

      So as it turns out there seems to be a few of us here who practice martial arts, from my experience it seems a lot of programmers are drawn to some form of martial arts, either for fun, fitness or self defence. Am I right in thinking that developers and other people with a similar mindset are more get into this kind of thing more than the rest of the general population? Personally I don't do any fancy hand-to-hand martial arts, but I do practice Fencing and I was quite surprised to find that there are a fair few developers I know that also did fencing at some point or are still doing it.

      My current favourite quote is: Punch them in the face, see what happens!

      -SK Genius

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      It's that whole ninja mistique.

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      • A Anthony Mushrow

        So as it turns out there seems to be a few of us here who practice martial arts, from my experience it seems a lot of programmers are drawn to some form of martial arts, either for fun, fitness or self defence. Am I right in thinking that developers and other people with a similar mindset are more get into this kind of thing more than the rest of the general population? Personally I don't do any fancy hand-to-hand martial arts, but I do practice Fencing and I was quite surprised to find that there are a fair few developers I know that also did fencing at some point or are still doing it.

        My current favourite quote is: Punch them in the face, see what happens!

        -SK Genius

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        I'm a black belt in karaoke

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          Roger Wright wrote:

          But nothing has come to town to replace it, and I hate gyms.

          but Wogger, you can checkout chicks at the gym ;) B

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          Roger Wright
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          :laugh: :laugh: I've seen smaller females at a dairy farm than the gyms in Bullhead City. When the chicks leave the bar after karaoke night here, the bartender counts the stools; they lose more furniture that way...

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          • B bryce

            yeah it works like this programming is pretty much a sole activity and the only person you can really rely on is yourself same thing for martial arts - its a sporting activity/hobby where you rely on yourself and your own development. And you can trot along at your own rate. Lot of claptrap being talked about in that other thread about martial arts. Bryce

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            PaulowniaK
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            bryce wrote:

            programming is pretty much a sole activity and the only person you can really rely on is yourself same thing for martial arts - its a sporting activity/hobby where you rely on yourself and your own development.

            On the contrary. I can't speak for all of the martial arts out there, but the one I practice relies heavily on human interaction. One of the first things we get taught is that we can't practice on our own (we need sparring partners) and respecting them and being grateful to them is one of the most important thing in the art. So in my case, since work is solitary, I go to get reconnected to the human world through martial arts. :)

            Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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            • R Roger Wright

              :laugh: :laugh: I've seen smaller females at a dairy farm than the gyms in Bullhead City. When the chicks leave the bar after karaoke night here, the bartender counts the stools; they lose more furniture that way...

              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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              i think you'd best explain that one for the uninitiated B

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              • A Anthony Mushrow

                So as it turns out there seems to be a few of us here who practice martial arts, from my experience it seems a lot of programmers are drawn to some form of martial arts, either for fun, fitness or self defence. Am I right in thinking that developers and other people with a similar mindset are more get into this kind of thing more than the rest of the general population? Personally I don't do any fancy hand-to-hand martial arts, but I do practice Fencing and I was quite surprised to find that there are a fair few developers I know that also did fencing at some point or are still doing it.

                My current favourite quote is: Punch them in the face, see what happens!

                -SK Genius

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                Harvey Saayman
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                Hey dude Are you still planning on writing more Game Programming articles? The first two are really interesting and I'd love to read some more of them :)

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                • P PaulowniaK

                  bryce wrote:

                  programming is pretty much a sole activity and the only person you can really rely on is yourself same thing for martial arts - its a sporting activity/hobby where you rely on yourself and your own development.

                  On the contrary. I can't speak for all of the martial arts out there, but the one I practice relies heavily on human interaction. One of the first things we get taught is that we can't practice on our own (we need sparring partners) and respecting them and being grateful to them is one of the most important thing in the art. So in my case, since work is solitary, I go to get reconnected to the human world through martial arts. :)

                  Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                  bryce
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                  no , its quite true i didnt say there wasnt interaction. But its essentially a solo activity Bryce who teaches that stuff

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                    no , its quite true i didnt say there wasnt interaction. But its essentially a solo activity Bryce who teaches that stuff

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                    PaulowniaK
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                    bryce wrote:

                    But its essentially a solo activity

                    I suppose if you do just forms and no contact combat... :confused: I do Japanese fencing, and we have a teaching: "Cross swords and learn love", which, in practical terms means, "Make friends through training". We also say "Everyone apart from myself is my teacher". We are also encouraged to travel to seek out better opponents and teachers. So at least in my case, it is very much a group activity. I'm also starting to see the importance of team matches. Only one of us fence at any given time, but the existence of the team is very important. :)

                    Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                    • B bryce

                      yeah it works like this programming is pretty much a sole activity and the only person you can really rely on is yourself same thing for martial arts - its a sporting activity/hobby where you rely on yourself and your own development. And you can trot along at your own rate. Lot of claptrap being talked about in that other thread about martial arts. Bryce

                      MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      bryce wrote:

                      its a sporting activity/hobby where you rely on yourself and your own development

                      That's pretty much the same for just about all sports. Ultimately you have to rely on your own determination to progress.

                      bryce wrote:

                      Lot of claptrap being talked about in that other thread about martial arts

                      I'm not sure I saw much evidence of that. I don't think anybody started talking about the mystic/philosophical side.

                      bryce wrote:

                      pretty much a sole activity

                      In my experiences with Muay Thai, this couldn't have been further from the truth. We trained to fight. We fought in rings, and a lot of the time spent practicing was mano-e-mano.

                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                      • B bryce

                        i think you'd best explain that one for the uninitiated B

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                        Johnny J
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                        No, please don't! For the love of God :omg:

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                        • A Anthony Mushrow

                          So as it turns out there seems to be a few of us here who practice martial arts, from my experience it seems a lot of programmers are drawn to some form of martial arts, either for fun, fitness or self defence. Am I right in thinking that developers and other people with a similar mindset are more get into this kind of thing more than the rest of the general population? Personally I don't do any fancy hand-to-hand martial arts, but I do practice Fencing and I was quite surprised to find that there are a fair few developers I know that also did fencing at some point or are still doing it.

                          My current favourite quote is: Punch them in the face, see what happens!

                          -SK Genius

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                          phannon86
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                          I did Taekwondo in my youth :)

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                          • H Harvey Saayman

                            Hey dude Are you still planning on writing more Game Programming articles? The first two are really interesting and I'd love to read some more of them :)

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                            Anthony Mushrow
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                            Well, I've not really got anything else going at the moment and I've almost finished a game demo I'm working on so I guess I just might.

                            My current favourite quote is: Punch them in the face, see what happens!

                            -SK Genius

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                            • A Anthony Mushrow

                              Well, I've not really got anything else going at the moment and I've almost finished a game demo I'm working on so I guess I just might.

                              My current favourite quote is: Punch them in the face, see what happens!

                              -SK Genius

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                              Harvey Saayman
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                              Please do :D:thumbsup:

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                              • P PaulowniaK

                                bryce wrote:

                                But its essentially a solo activity

                                I suppose if you do just forms and no contact combat... :confused: I do Japanese fencing, and we have a teaching: "Cross swords and learn love", which, in practical terms means, "Make friends through training". We also say "Everyone apart from myself is my teacher". We are also encouraged to travel to seek out better opponents and teachers. So at least in my case, it is very much a group activity. I'm also starting to see the importance of team matches. Only one of us fence at any given time, but the existence of the team is very important. :)

                                Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                                PaulowniaK wrote:

                                I suppose if you do just forms and no contact combat... Confused

                                nope lets see no one is passing you a ball, no one else is dependant on your ability, skill or commitement no one but you, someone might grab you, hold pads for you or spar with you but its you do who has the end result in your hands. ergo, its not a team sport its a solo activity. Just like programming. Bryce

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                                • P PaulowniaK

                                  bryce wrote:

                                  But its essentially a solo activity

                                  I suppose if you do just forms and no contact combat... :confused: I do Japanese fencing, and we have a teaching: "Cross swords and learn love", which, in practical terms means, "Make friends through training". We also say "Everyone apart from myself is my teacher". We are also encouraged to travel to seek out better opponents and teachers. So at least in my case, it is very much a group activity. I'm also starting to see the importance of team matches. Only one of us fence at any given time, but the existence of the team is very important. :)

                                  Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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                                  PaulowniaK wrote:

                                  I suppose if you do just forms and no contact combat... Confused

                                  nope lets see no one is passing you a ball, no one else is dependant on your ability, skill or commitment no one but you, someone might grab you, hold pads for you or spar with you but its you do who has the end result in your hands. ergo, its not a team sport its a solo activity. Just like programming. Bryce

                                  MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                                    bryce wrote:

                                    its a sporting activity/hobby where you rely on yourself and your own development

                                    That's pretty much the same for just about all sports. Ultimately you have to rely on your own determination to progress.

                                    bryce wrote:

                                    Lot of claptrap being talked about in that other thread about martial arts

                                    I'm not sure I saw much evidence of that. I don't think anybody started talking about the mystic/philosophical side.

                                    bryce wrote:

                                    pretty much a sole activity

                                    In my experiences with Muay Thai, this couldn't have been further from the truth. We trained to fight. We fought in rings, and a lot of the time spent practicing was mano-e-mano.

                                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                                    righto well lets see you're in a ring facing an opposition - but theres no one else there helping you thats no team sport - its solo. Bryce

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                                    • B bryce

                                      PaulowniaK wrote:

                                      I suppose if you do just forms and no contact combat... Confused

                                      nope lets see no one is passing you a ball, no one else is dependant on your ability, skill or commitment no one but you, someone might grab you, hold pads for you or spar with you but its you do who has the end result in your hands. ergo, its not a team sport its a solo activity. Just like programming. Bryce

                                      MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                                      PaulowniaK
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                                      O well... For what it's worth, here's what I think...

                                      bryce wrote:

                                      no one is passing you a ball, no one else is dependant on your ability, skill or commitment

                                      OK, agreed. No ball passing... but my achievement in a team does affect the overall performance of the team. For example, if you are playing in the first two positions, you really need to push hard, event if that comes at a cost of not scoring. If you play in the latter positions of the team, you have to apply some thought. Why risk losing a point when your team is 2 up, say? Having said that, I just played the middle position, lost 2-0 but managed to fire up the next player who saved the game with a 1-0 win.

                                      bryce wrote:

                                      no one but you, someone might grab you, hold pads for you or spar with you but its you do who has the end result in your hands.

                                      You can say the same about football. Your team mate can give you the best pass in the world, but if you'd been lazy and not practiced, you may not be able to capitalize on the pass and score. For any activity, when it comes down to it, it's your own will power to make yourself do your best and train as hard as you can.

                                      bryce wrote:

                                      its not a team sport its a solo activity

                                      As I explained earlier, it is definitely a team activity. And as long as one closes oneself from the opponent thinking it's a solo activity, that person will never progress... at least in the martial art of my choice. Our opponents are people to beat, but at the same time, they are our companions in the journey to follow the road of the warriors (Bu: warrior Do: road = Martial Art).

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