New Boss Equals Many Changes - Part Deux [modified]
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
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Good stuff! These things tend to come in threes. I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you. :)
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Good stuff! These things tend to come in threes. I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you. :)
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
modified on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:54 AM
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
modified on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:54 AM
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I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish.
(I am (self-)employed) You don't sound snobbish. There's nothing wrong with switching job for the better (hopefully). Besides, you just freed up a job at your old place. ;P
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
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Congrats on the new job... So things do pay off in the end :-) On feeling bad for your new boss just starting - a piece of wisdom from my old Boss (whom I didn't appreciate when he was there) "We're all replaceable - the company will go on" I was pretty put out by that statement for a while, but I got over it and to be honest got over my self important attitude. Within two years of him making that statement the entire upper level management that I had worked with for ten years was replaced in a merger, and the company did continue on... Bottom line - Take care of yourself and your important ones. Darragh
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Congrats on the new job... So things do pay off in the end :-) On feeling bad for your new boss just starting - a piece of wisdom from my old Boss (whom I didn't appreciate when he was there) "We're all replaceable - the company will go on" I was pretty put out by that statement for a while, but I got over it and to be honest got over my self important attitude. Within two years of him making that statement the entire upper level management that I had worked with for ten years was replaced in a merger, and the company did continue on... Bottom line - Take care of yourself and your important ones. Darragh
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
modified on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:54 AM
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
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Given all the changes at the old company, they shouldn't be surprised at people also changing, even if this is unrelated. If I remember the other post, new boss was going to force rewriting existing stable code (dumb idea)... Very few employers make commitments to workers any more; so workers don't need to either. I see my younger coworkers switching jobs often...
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
modified on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:54 AM
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Given all the changes at the old company, they shouldn't be surprised at people also changing, even if this is unrelated. If I remember the other post, new boss was going to force rewriting existing stable code (dumb idea)... Very few employers make commitments to workers any more; so workers don't need to either. I see my younger coworkers switching jobs often...
Loyalty has always been a big deal to me, spent 22 years in the military. I've been here 3.5 yaers, drive 150 miles a Day and do it because I enjoy the job and the company. I totally agree that most workers today, especially younger ones, see no commitment to thier organizations. This company is totally different though, we have very few younger workers because everyone here loves it and stays through retirement for the most part. There's so many people here with 20, 30 and even 40+ years of service, that at our last company audit (last week) that was brought up as a major issue...our folks are all reaching retirement age and noone here to replace them. Anyway, he'll have his hands full, but the company will survive.
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Hey, congratulations! Good news that the code-conversion isn't an issue anymore ;). Anyway congrats to your wife as well :)
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Loyalty has always been a big deal to me, spent 22 years in the military. I've been here 3.5 yaers, drive 150 miles a Day and do it because I enjoy the job and the company. I totally agree that most workers today, especially younger ones, see no commitment to thier organizations. This company is totally different though, we have very few younger workers because everyone here loves it and stays through retirement for the most part. There's so many people here with 20, 30 and even 40+ years of service, that at our last company audit (last week) that was brought up as a major issue...our folks are all reaching retirement age and noone here to replace them. Anyway, he'll have his hands full, but the company will survive.
My last company had very loyal employees. After several mergers the company changed. Our local bosses were great, but the upper management clearly were not returning the loyalty we gave them. I did get a nice package when they laid me off, so I try not to bad mouth them (too much), I'm just quite aware of times changing.
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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my first post here: OP Very nice input and suggestions from all! However, it now appears that the entire point is moot. Friday, a close friend of mine called to chat. He's been asking me for a year or so to come work with him, and I've been putting him off since I really have a nice job and I'm fairly happy doing what I do. He said his boss wanted to chat. So, I told my wife, who knows him as well and I explained that what my friend does is pretty exciting, but pretty fast paced work, including lots of travel and sometimes long hours, but only 4 days a week (works from home on Fridays). He's been doing this for years and loves it. Anyway, I told the wife not to expect to much, but I'll satisfy my friend by chatting with him. I also made it clear to my friend that it would take a LOT of compensation to even consider a move, and I really didn't feel like I wanted to go through the entire "interview" process anyway. So, his boss calls me, chat for 30 minutes, and within an hour I had an offer letter! Lots of compensation (40% more), I'll join my friends team and work with him until I get settled in, then take over my own team. And to top it all off, my wife, after 2.5 years of being unemployeed, started her new full time job Monday... However, I feel bad for my new boss, he's coming into a very "hectic" time, and I was the guy they had picked to head up a couple really big projects that were starting this year. Well, he starts tomorrow, I'll give him most of the day before dropping this bomb on him, but with or without me, the organization will continue to move forward and succeed. Edit: I realize there's many folks out there who are with out jobs, so I don't mean to sound snobbish. I'm just tickled that after working my butt off for 35 years, it's finally paying off, but more pleased my wife is employeed. It's been pretty stressful making ends meet with just my income over the last 2.5 years.
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I just wanted to comment on my appreciation of your thoughts and feelings toward the position that you may be leaving you're boss (whether new or not) and company in. I realize that many people may be treated like nothing more than a number, but there are some bosses and some companies that do sincerely care about the people they work with - so it's good to know when there are people that feel the same way in return. That being said, one of the important things that you mentioned is that you have a strong team - they'll undoubtedly be a great resource and help ensure that the organization will, as you say, continue to move forward and succeed. Given your attitude and personality, I'm sure you'll be happy to help with the odd phone call or email requesting help with some items during the transition period. What more can a boss or organization ask? The reality is that they don't own you and you deserve to have other opportunities. I say congrats and best of luck with your new job - I expect they'll be thrilled to have you. Cheers, Chris
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I just wanted to comment on my appreciation of your thoughts and feelings toward the position that you may be leaving you're boss (whether new or not) and company in. I realize that many people may be treated like nothing more than a number, but there are some bosses and some companies that do sincerely care about the people they work with - so it's good to know when there are people that feel the same way in return. That being said, one of the important things that you mentioned is that you have a strong team - they'll undoubtedly be a great resource and help ensure that the organization will, as you say, continue to move forward and succeed. Given your attitude and personality, I'm sure you'll be happy to help with the odd phone call or email requesting help with some items during the transition period. What more can a boss or organization ask? The reality is that they don't own you and you deserve to have other opportunities. I say congrats and best of luck with your new job - I expect they'll be thrilled to have you. Cheers, Chris