Is the Internet REALLY a human right, now?
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I remember last year, getting a question on my IPT exam about the responsibility of 3rd world governments in providing their citizens with Internet access. Now, after reading about Finnland adding laws to classify it as a right, and all that's happening in Britain about it (including that 3/4 of the population call it as important as water!), I'm here, asking you guys, is it really a basic human right nowadays? Anyone in Australia will probably have a chuckle about that, just try us: we get 1.5Mbps (max) on ADSL1, 12GB a month. We pay $55/month. We could get ADSL2, if we decided to shell out $80 a month, which is kinda not doable for out family. Australia's kinda badly off for Internet access. So do you think Internet is REALLY a right?
I read that as:
Is the Internet REALLY a human, right now?
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Nothing is a right. However certain politicians/judges/other interested parties believe that classifying certain things in this way actually improves the world. Whereas the reality is that people in the west continue to believe that they can get more for less while the rest of the world struggles to feed itself.
It's time for a new signature.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Whereas the reality is that people in the west continue to believe that they can get more for less while the rest of the world struggles to feed itself.
Really? Based on what evidence? Where, for example, in Asia are people struggling to feed themselves? Most of Africa is doing well at feeding itself. In fact the real shit holes of the world are mainly run by Theocracies, Communists or Corrupt Fuckers who need to be put against the wall and shot. The west gets what it works for, it does not have civil wars and despots stealing all the money, and it is certainly not putting a stranglehold on technology because of what some goat herders wrote in a book thousands of years ago. Look at places like Pakistan that employs massive departments to go through the internet and ban sites that do not conform to the Koran. Well that's every piece of Science bollocksed in Pakistan then, for they disavow Evolution, are against certain medicines because of the alcohol or fungal ingrediants and demand that instead of being productive you have to stop and pray 5 times a day. Central Africa is riddled with Tribalism and Corruption, where despite most of it being fertile and producing enough food, the theiving magpies at the top steal all the money and shoot those who disagree with them. The Far East and South America are becoming the powerhouses of the new world economy, and they want what we have got, would you deny them fast internet and cheap hardware? Let them that wish to remain stuck in the Bronze Age do so, but by god do not compare us. We have moved on, we look forward not back, and all technology becomes cheaper and better with time. It is just a shame that they use it to beat people, control them, or kill them with it.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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pompeyboy3 wrote:
Cor that must have took awhile to write right.
Not really, Came right off the top of my head. I really must get my hair cut, there's all sorts of stuff up there. :)
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
So, you are a Writewright?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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I read that as:
Is the Internet REALLY a human, right now?
Let's give that question to some law students! :laugh: (They'd probably spend a couple of days :doh: (no offense to law students :P ))
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I read that as:
Is the Internet REALLY a human, right now?
Me too, and I think the answer is yes, it just hasn't told us yet.
Simon
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So, you are a Writewright?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Wrong!!
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
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So, you are a Writewright?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Wordwright, loungewright!
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Wordwright, loungewright!
Wordsmith and Lounge Lizard!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Wordsmith and Lounge Lizard!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Are you trying for the 2 millionth post? ;P Loungesmithwright!
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I think it right that people should have rights. Getting the right rights is, however the right way to go about this. Right now this right is not right, IMNSHO. However for those pressing for the right Right on!
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
Riiigghhttt :wtf:
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Whereas the reality is that people in the west continue to believe that they can get more for less while the rest of the world struggles to feed itself.
Really? Based on what evidence? Where, for example, in Asia are people struggling to feed themselves? Most of Africa is doing well at feeding itself. In fact the real shit holes of the world are mainly run by Theocracies, Communists or Corrupt Fuckers who need to be put against the wall and shot. The west gets what it works for, it does not have civil wars and despots stealing all the money, and it is certainly not putting a stranglehold on technology because of what some goat herders wrote in a book thousands of years ago. Look at places like Pakistan that employs massive departments to go through the internet and ban sites that do not conform to the Koran. Well that's every piece of Science bollocksed in Pakistan then, for they disavow Evolution, are against certain medicines because of the alcohol or fungal ingrediants and demand that instead of being productive you have to stop and pray 5 times a day. Central Africa is riddled with Tribalism and Corruption, where despite most of it being fertile and producing enough food, the theiving magpies at the top steal all the money and shoot those who disagree with them. The Far East and South America are becoming the powerhouses of the new world economy, and they want what we have got, would you deny them fast internet and cheap hardware? Let them that wish to remain stuck in the Bronze Age do so, but by god do not compare us. We have moved on, we look forward not back, and all technology becomes cheaper and better with time. It is just a shame that they use it to beat people, control them, or kill them with it.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
The west gets what it works for
Nah. :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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I read that as:
Is the Internet REALLY a human, right now?
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I read that as:
Is the Internet REALLY a human, right now?
viaducting wrote:
Is the Internet REALLY a human
Well, cause it is, it's me. I run the Internet solely by myself, spending every nono second sending data to your computers as and when you request it. Sometimes I don't know the answer so I make $#!+ up. Sometimes you believe me. Occationally I stop for a bite of a sandwich, which is when your connection seems slow. I fund my activities, with scams, like fake Anti-Virus software, but less and less people are falling for this. In fact I find that I need to employee for staff. Pay is cr@p and the hours very long. Perks including reading other peoples emails and looking a porn. Anybody interested?
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
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Bang on the money. If they stopped classify everything and just got in and helped the 'less fortunate', well then, there wouldn't be any 'less fortunate'.
dawmail333 wrote:
...there wouldn't be any 'less fortunate'.
Not everyone is above average! Doom! Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Whereas the reality is that people in the west continue to believe that they can get more for less while the rest of the world struggles to feed itself.
Really? Based on what evidence? Where, for example, in Asia are people struggling to feed themselves? Most of Africa is doing well at feeding itself. In fact the real shit holes of the world are mainly run by Theocracies, Communists or Corrupt Fuckers who need to be put against the wall and shot. The west gets what it works for, it does not have civil wars and despots stealing all the money, and it is certainly not putting a stranglehold on technology because of what some goat herders wrote in a book thousands of years ago. Look at places like Pakistan that employs massive departments to go through the internet and ban sites that do not conform to the Koran. Well that's every piece of Science bollocksed in Pakistan then, for they disavow Evolution, are against certain medicines because of the alcohol or fungal ingrediants and demand that instead of being productive you have to stop and pray 5 times a day. Central Africa is riddled with Tribalism and Corruption, where despite most of it being fertile and producing enough food, the theiving magpies at the top steal all the money and shoot those who disagree with them. The Far East and South America are becoming the powerhouses of the new world economy, and they want what we have got, would you deny them fast internet and cheap hardware? Let them that wish to remain stuck in the Bronze Age do so, but by god do not compare us. We have moved on, we look forward not back, and all technology becomes cheaper and better with time. It is just a shame that they use it to beat people, control them, or kill them with it.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
Where, for example, in Asia are people struggling to feed themselves?
China seems to be having some problems. Country folk flooding to the cities to earn a living wage, then going on strike to protest against their poor pay and conditions. You can find starving beggars on the streets of many towns and cities in India, etc,
Dalek Dave wrote:
Most of Africa is doing well at feeding itself.
Dalek Dave wrote:
The west gets what it works for,
at the expense of those countries that exploit their workers in order to sell cheaply to the west.
Dalek Dave wrote:
The Far East and South America are becoming the powerhouses of the new world economy, and they want what we have got, would you deny them fast internet and cheap hardware?
I never suggested denying anyone anything.
It's time for a new signature.
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viaducting wrote:
Is the Internet REALLY a human
Well, cause it is, it's me. I run the Internet solely by myself, spending every nono second sending data to your computers as and when you request it. Sometimes I don't know the answer so I make $#!+ up. Sometimes you believe me. Occationally I stop for a bite of a sandwich, which is when your connection seems slow. I fund my activities, with scams, like fake Anti-Virus software, but less and less people are falling for this. In fact I find that I need to employee for staff. Pay is cr@p and the hours very long. Perks including reading other peoples emails and looking a porn. Anybody interested?
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
Steven J Jowett wrote:
I run the Internet solely by myself, spending every nono second sending data to your computers as and when you request it.
I thought these people ran it: Elders of the Internet/[^]. Iain. Just in case I was being too obscure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmxXp62O8g[^]
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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I remember last year, getting a question on my IPT exam about the responsibility of 3rd world governments in providing their citizens with Internet access. Now, after reading about Finnland adding laws to classify it as a right, and all that's happening in Britain about it (including that 3/4 of the population call it as important as water!), I'm here, asking you guys, is it really a basic human right nowadays? Anyone in Australia will probably have a chuckle about that, just try us: we get 1.5Mbps (max) on ADSL1, 12GB a month. We pay $55/month. We could get ADSL2, if we decided to shell out $80 a month, which is kinda not doable for out family. Australia's kinda badly off for Internet access. So do you think Internet is REALLY a right?
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Steven J Jowett wrote:
I run the Internet solely by myself, spending every nono second sending data to your computers as and when you request it.
I thought these people ran it: Elders of the Internet/[^]. Iain. Just in case I was being too obscure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmxXp62O8g[^]
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote:
I thought these people ran it: Elders of the Internet/[^].
Purely minions, nothing more.
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
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I think Internet is REALLY not right
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You can say that again...
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dawmail333 wrote:
...there wouldn't be any 'less fortunate'.
Not everyone is above average! Doom! Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
Well obviously. What exactly were you trying to say?