Is the Internet REALLY a human right, now?
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viaducting wrote:
Is the Internet REALLY a human
Well, cause it is, it's me. I run the Internet solely by myself, spending every nono second sending data to your computers as and when you request it. Sometimes I don't know the answer so I make $#!+ up. Sometimes you believe me. Occationally I stop for a bite of a sandwich, which is when your connection seems slow. I fund my activities, with scams, like fake Anti-Virus software, but less and less people are falling for this. In fact I find that I need to employee for staff. Pay is cr@p and the hours very long. Perks including reading other peoples emails and looking a porn. Anybody interested?
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
Steven J Jowett wrote:
I run the Internet solely by myself, spending every nono second sending data to your computers as and when you request it.
I thought these people ran it: Elders of the Internet/[^]. Iain. Just in case I was being too obscure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmxXp62O8g[^]
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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I remember last year, getting a question on my IPT exam about the responsibility of 3rd world governments in providing their citizens with Internet access. Now, after reading about Finnland adding laws to classify it as a right, and all that's happening in Britain about it (including that 3/4 of the population call it as important as water!), I'm here, asking you guys, is it really a basic human right nowadays? Anyone in Australia will probably have a chuckle about that, just try us: we get 1.5Mbps (max) on ADSL1, 12GB a month. We pay $55/month. We could get ADSL2, if we decided to shell out $80 a month, which is kinda not doable for out family. Australia's kinda badly off for Internet access. So do you think Internet is REALLY a right?
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Steven J Jowett wrote:
I run the Internet solely by myself, spending every nono second sending data to your computers as and when you request it.
I thought these people ran it: Elders of the Internet/[^]. Iain. Just in case I was being too obscure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmxXp62O8g[^]
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote:
I thought these people ran it: Elders of the Internet/[^].
Purely minions, nothing more.
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.
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I think Internet is REALLY not right
- A random opportunity is like a taller chair, those who sit hang on, those who hang on fall L.W.C. Nirosh. Colombo, Sri Lanka.
You can say that again...
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dawmail333 wrote:
...there wouldn't be any 'less fortunate'.
Not everyone is above average! Doom! Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
Well obviously. What exactly were you trying to say?
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I remember last year, getting a question on my IPT exam about the responsibility of 3rd world governments in providing their citizens with Internet access. Now, after reading about Finnland adding laws to classify it as a right, and all that's happening in Britain about it (including that 3/4 of the population call it as important as water!), I'm here, asking you guys, is it really a basic human right nowadays? Anyone in Australia will probably have a chuckle about that, just try us: we get 1.5Mbps (max) on ADSL1, 12GB a month. We pay $55/month. We could get ADSL2, if we decided to shell out $80 a month, which is kinda not doable for out family. Australia's kinda badly off for Internet access. So do you think Internet is REALLY a right?
No more than television. Regarding regulation and stuff I wish more effort was made on making sure new residential complexes have better network infrastructure in place. I've rented two flats, both in pretty new builds only a few years old, and can't get cable in either (plus the phone lines seem dodgy as hell so even the 2 mbps asdl I get really goes a lot slower and is always cutting out). Seems to be a problem in most multi occupancy buildings.
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Well obviously. What exactly were you trying to say?
I was partially being silly, but mostly thinking of (eg) schools being rubbished for being at the bottom of a league. Well, someone is always at the bottom of a given league. We don't usually get to hear the relative difference between the top and bottom. But answering your original point, how are governments meant to help the less fortunate without classifying them? Big bucket of my (and your) money outsite their office with "help yourself, but only if you REALLY need it" written on the side? There's a valid argument to be made that decades of aid have done more prop up kleptocracies than they have helped the "unfortunate". And what's the UK doing giving aid to India, when they have a space program!? Yours ranty today for some reason, Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Bang on the money. If they stopped classify everything and just got in and helped the 'less fortunate', well then, there wouldn't be any 'less fortunate'.
dawmail333 wrote:
If they stopped classify everything and just got in and helped the 'less fortunate', well then, there wouldn't be any 'less fortunate'.
That goes totally and completely against the principles of capitalism! The function of the less fortunate is to give everything they have (money, time, blood, etc.) to the more fortunate!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I was partially being silly, but mostly thinking of (eg) schools being rubbished for being at the bottom of a league. Well, someone is always at the bottom of a given league. We don't usually get to hear the relative difference between the top and bottom. But answering your original point, how are governments meant to help the less fortunate without classifying them? Big bucket of my (and your) money outsite their office with "help yourself, but only if you REALLY need it" written on the side? There's a valid argument to be made that decades of aid have done more prop up kleptocracies than they have helped the "unfortunate". And what's the UK doing giving aid to India, when they have a space program!? Yours ranty today for some reason, Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
I kinda meant if they used their COMMON SENSE (which is ironically uncommon), rather than spending weeks debating over it, more could be done... If India are misspending their treasury, that's their business. It's the fortunate who should be making sure others have money to work with.
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I kinda meant if they used their COMMON SENSE (which is ironically uncommon), rather than spending weeks debating over it, more could be done... If India are misspending their treasury, that's their business. It's the fortunate who should be making sure others have money to work with.
dawmail333 wrote:
If India are misspending their treasury, that's their business.
I have no trouble with India spending their own money howsoever they wish. I'm sure I'd be critical of parts, and enthusiastic about other parts. Pretty much like spending is most other countries. My objection was more at the UK being daft enough to give aid to a country that can afford space rockets. Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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dawmail333 wrote:
If India are misspending their treasury, that's their business.
I have no trouble with India spending their own money howsoever they wish. I'm sure I'd be critical of parts, and enthusiastic about other parts. Pretty much like spending is most other countries. My objection was more at the UK being daft enough to give aid to a country that can afford space rockets. Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
Yeah, but I mean, it sounds like they are not allocating their treasury too well, and I think that's why Britain is stepping in. I could be wrong: I'm not too familiar with world status TBH.
modified on Friday, July 2, 2010 12:15 AM
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I remember last year, getting a question on my IPT exam about the responsibility of 3rd world governments in providing their citizens with Internet access. Now, after reading about Finnland adding laws to classify it as a right, and all that's happening in Britain about it (including that 3/4 of the population call it as important as water!), I'm here, asking you guys, is it really a basic human right nowadays? Anyone in Australia will probably have a chuckle about that, just try us: we get 1.5Mbps (max) on ADSL1, 12GB a month. We pay $55/month. We could get ADSL2, if we decided to shell out $80 a month, which is kinda not doable for out family. Australia's kinda badly off for Internet access. So do you think Internet is REALLY a right?
No. Life can be lived without the Internet. It is more of a crutch than anything else.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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No. Life can be lived without the Internet. It is more of a crutch than anything else.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
I would actually disagree. Seriously. It seems to be a bit more than a crutch, many business etc. rely on the Internet.
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I would actually disagree. Seriously. It seems to be a bit more than a crutch, many business etc. rely on the Internet.
dawmail333 wrote:
many business etc. rely on the Internet.
Like a crutch. However, they do not need it. Very few businesses actually need the Internet. Just like I don't need my car. I want it. I don't need my big screen T.V., I want it. Want is not a basic human right. The Internet being a need is tantamount to the rat needing the cheese to be in the same place in the maze because he (or she) has not developed the necessary skills to search the maze.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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dawmail333 wrote:
many business etc. rely on the Internet.
Like a crutch. However, they do not need it. Very few businesses actually need the Internet. Just like I don't need my car. I want it. I don't need my big screen T.V., I want it. Want is not a basic human right. The Internet being a need is tantamount to the rat needing the cheese to be in the same place in the maze because he (or she) has not developed the necessary skills to search the maze.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Sure, I can understand what you are saying. But lets just say that all the DNS servers go down for 3 days. What would happen then???
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Sure, I can understand what you are saying. But lets just say that all the DNS servers go down for 3 days. What would happen then???
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Sure, I can understand what you are saying. But lets just say that all the DNS servers go down for 3 days. What would happen then???
I might be able to get a good pick-up basketball game at the part and the U.S. 30% obesity rate might dip a little. Shares of Starbucks would skyrocket. And, best of all, I would no longer have to field calls from overseas trying to sell me stuff.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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I read that as:
Is the Internet REALLY a human, right now?
So I wasn't the only one!
Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)
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And who would know? Actually, probably wouldn't make a difference, the Chinese can't use the 'net anyway... :doh:
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I might be able to get a good pick-up basketball game at the part and the U.S. 30% obesity rate might dip a little. Shares of Starbucks would skyrocket. And, best of all, I would no longer have to field calls from overseas trying to sell me stuff.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
I see you're not really sold on the whole internet thing ;P I personally think that it is a lot more important than most people think, as it's behind the scenes. A lot. :^)