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  • D Dalek Dave

    Clickity[^] I have been working on this for about 4 hours now, and have uploaded for your constructive criticism. Obviously I still have a lot to do, upload the Architectural drawings and site plans, and the gallery will need to be done over the course of the next few days, but does it look ok?

    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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    Anthony Mushrow
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    Well, I'm no arteest and it takes me an absolute age to design something half decent but. As others have said, yellow on blue is painful to look at, just because they are the company colours it doesn't mean that they need to be used for everything. Because the colours clash so badly, you probably want to pick a either yellow or blue as your primary colour and then garnish the page with the other colour, but try to keep it simple. Ideally you want to use as few colours as possible (different shades are generally OK though) and limit yourself to a couple of fonts. For t'internet it's usually better to stick to sans-serif fonts as they're easier on the eyes, and only change font and/or colour when it's really necessary; titles for example might want to be a different font or in italics, but remember to be consistent. Well, that's all I got.

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    • D Dalek Dave

      Clickity[^] I have been working on this for about 4 hours now, and have uploaded for your constructive criticism. Obviously I still have a lot to do, upload the Architectural drawings and site plans, and the gallery will need to be done over the course of the next few days, but does it look ok?

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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      Abhinav S
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      I ran your website in two browsers (IE and Opera) and the output looked very similar so the styling seems to be working correctly. However, as mentioned by all others, the blue and yellow really "suck" together. You also might need to consider consistent colors (and fonts) across the application. That would make the site a little boring but maybe easier to read.

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Clickity[^] I have been working on this for about 4 hours now, and have uploaded for your constructive criticism. Obviously I still have a lot to do, upload the Architectural drawings and site plans, and the gallery will need to be done over the course of the next few days, but does it look ok?

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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        puromtec1
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        This might just be a matter of business style, however, I'd like to see the phone number of a sales office immediately beneath the company name and maybe display some model home addresses on the first page so people can "get in" and "get out [the door]" and chase after some spec houses if need be. I've done work for home builders myself. Are you by chance linking this site to any existing business software, just curious? I also think that buyers see right past any style issues with fonts or colors and would be more impressed by seeing stats on the company's home construction and warranty closure times if they are something to brag about. Hope this helps.

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        • P puromtec1

          This might just be a matter of business style, however, I'd like to see the phone number of a sales office immediately beneath the company name and maybe display some model home addresses on the first page so people can "get in" and "get out [the door]" and chase after some spec houses if need be. I've done work for home builders myself. Are you by chance linking this site to any existing business software, just curious? I also think that buyers see right past any style issues with fonts or colors and would be more impressed by seeing stats on the company's home construction and warranty closure times if they are something to brag about. Hope this helps.

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          Dalek Dave
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          It is still under construction, I am just putting a framework together at this point in time. There will be full facts about the company in the ABOUT US section, showing all details plus memberships of NHBC for example. There will a link to brochures once I receive them, and a page of architectural and engineering drawings.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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            Paint is a free MS product. This means that even they don't have the cheek to charge for it! Quality is not it's strong point... Some people swear by GIMP - open source and fully functional. I use Paint Shop Pro 9 (The last version before Corel murdered bought it.) Cheaper than Photoshop, and a lot of people think better, too. Can still be found new for less than a nights beer!

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            Arnd H
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            Another great free alternative is Paint.NET[^] - there's still Paint in the name, but it's actually closer to Photoshop than to Paint, at least when it comes to working with images for the web.

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            • D Dalek Dave

              Clickity[^] I have been working on this for about 4 hours now, and have uploaded for your constructive criticism. Obviously I still have a lot to do, upload the Architectural drawings and site plans, and the gallery will need to be done over the course of the next few days, but does it look ok?

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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              Rocky Moore
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              I have read about the colors. I notice though that the colors do not match the logo. Perhaps the darker yellow of the logo and the darker might make it a little less neon looking. The Blue they use in the PDF is much nicer and friendly on the eyes. Another thing you might think about is a small grey (or dark blue) border (like 1px) on top and of the yellow on the menu and one the top of the bottom yellow, might give enough separation to help the eyes not tweek out. On the menu, you might add a little padding to the top and bottom of the menu text so that it gives a little more room for the yees. The Yellow on blue might also work better if you put the menu text in bold. I agree with others about the title though, the graphic image does not look clean and it adds yet another font to the layout. It might also work better to have a little more white space on top and bottom of the logo and perhaps move the "Bellcress Homes - The Right Move" into two lines on top of each other such as: Bellcross Homes The Right Move It might also look good with a small one pixel border around the entire window, or perhaps a couple pixel border on the right and bottom to give it a shadow and make it stand out from the grey background. I would also add some white space around the text int he blue frame, it helps the looks fi the text is not crammed next to a border. White space is your friend :) Just some thoughts..

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              • D Dalek Dave

                Clickity[^] I have been working on this for about 4 hours now, and have uploaded for your constructive criticism. Obviously I still have a lot to do, upload the Architectural drawings and site plans, and the gallery will need to be done over the course of the next few days, but does it look ok?

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Dave - as you aren't a graphic designer, I'd advise you to look at pre-existing web templates. Also, take a look at Kuler[^] to try to get complementary colours. And please, pick a sans-serif font.

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Clickity[^] I have been working on this for about 4 hours now, and have uploaded for your constructive criticism. Obviously I still have a lot to do, upload the Architectural drawings and site plans, and the gallery will need to be done over the course of the next few days, but does it look ok?

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                  J Dunlap
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                  I was going to write up some suggestions but decided making a copy of the page and changing it to reflect my suggestions might be clearer - so here you go[^]. That was just a quickie redesign mostly done via Firebug, Firefox, and Paint.NET, so it is not up to par with something I might do given more time. If you like it, I'll email you the HTML - but be warned, I used inline style and there will other be cleanup to do as well. Some additional suggestions if you like it: get some pictures of houses, cut them out, and put them in the righthand corner of the header, so the background looks like it's blue sky behind them. Get the company's marketing dept to give you more content to better fill the page, and reduce the font size of the body text.

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                  • J J Dunlap

                    I was going to write up some suggestions but decided making a copy of the page and changing it to reflect my suggestions might be clearer - so here you go[^]. That was just a quickie redesign mostly done via Firebug, Firefox, and Paint.NET, so it is not up to par with something I might do given more time. If you like it, I'll email you the HTML - but be warned, I used inline style and there will other be cleanup to do as well. Some additional suggestions if you like it: get some pictures of houses, cut them out, and put them in the righthand corner of the header, so the background looks like it's blue sky behind them. Get the company's marketing dept to give you more content to better fill the page, and reduce the font size of the body text.

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    Wow, I see how much better that looks. I hope you would not be offended if I adopt the look and move my version closer to yours. I see the differences that tiny little things can make to the whole.

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Wow, I see how much better that looks. I hope you would not be offended if I adopt the look and move my version closer to yours. I see the differences that tiny little things can make to the whole.

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                      J Dunlap
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                      Do whatever you like with it :) I'll send over what I have if that's helpful, when I am a little less busy... or you can just go by the pic if that works fine - simpler for me anyway. :)

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                        Do whatever you like with it :) I'll send over what I have if that's helpful, when I am a little less busy... or you can just go by the pic if that works fine - simpler for me anyway. :)

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        Thanks for the offer, but I would have more fun (if that is the right word), doing it myself. Simply having a guide to go by has helped enormously, as I stated earlier, I am not very design minded, so whilst I can get the required functionality, it looks crude in comparison to the one you have presented. Still, I think I do quite well for an accountant :) I shall work on it tomorrow and upload for the perusal of the Gurus of CP! Cheers.

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                          Paint is a free MS product. This means that even they don't have the cheek to charge for it! Quality is not it's strong point... Some people swear by GIMP - open source and fully functional. I use Paint Shop Pro 9 (The last version before Corel murdered bought it.) Cheaper than Photoshop, and a lot of people think better, too. Can still be found new for less than a nights beer!

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          Some people swear at GIMP

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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Some people swear at GIMP

                            ftfy


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                            OriginalGriff
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                            I was trying to be polite - I used to swear at GIMP. :laugh: Then I found Paint Shop Pro and until the Corelified versions I love it!

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Bellcross has been around since the 60's, so they should be suing Rightmove. The multi page PDF Brochure will be done by house type, so it wouldn't be a single download, and yes, I have had PDF woes before. Sometimes you can grow a full beard waiting for them to load.

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                              Dave, check your e-mail inbox

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