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    Simon Steele
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    Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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      Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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      Roger Wright
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      I plug the ADSL modem Ethernet jack into the hub/switch, then configure all the clients to use it as the default gateway. I'm not familiar with the box you're using, but I assume it will work much the same way. Is there any way you can test that configuration before you commit to something new? "When in danger, fear, or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!" - Lorelei and Lapis Lazuli Long

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        Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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        James Spibey
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        I bought an ASUS AAM600EV single port router which I preferred over buying a modem because I didn't want to rely on one machine being all the time. The price difference between a modem or the router was only about £30 9 months ago when I bought it. The router works fantastic and I've never had any problems. The only thing which I don't like about it is that it only supports TCP and UDP so I can't use it to VPN into work :( Cheers James

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          Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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          Giles
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          ADSL modems, do have have a NIC ports in addition to USB ports, so you just plug your network card in with the normal cable if you have one. The reason why they say USB, is because most home users don't have a home network, so they don't advertise the NIC port as they don't know what they are. The nice thing is as well, you don't have to install any USB drivers :)

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            Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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            Hi Smoothwall ver 2 (aka Lite and currently in beta) supports a variety of USB ADSL devices :) Runs kernel 2.4. Cheers :) PS: There are quite alot of these type of distros around, Smoothwall I like for its ease of use, there mite be others, if so let me know. :) Smoothwall's biggest disadvantage is its stripped down nature and the inability to support "tweaking". It lacks all unneccesary components. "I dont have a life, I have a program."

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              Hi Smoothwall ver 2 (aka Lite and currently in beta) supports a variety of USB ADSL devices :) Runs kernel 2.4. Cheers :) PS: There are quite alot of these type of distros around, Smoothwall I like for its ease of use, there mite be others, if so let me know. :) Smoothwall's biggest disadvantage is its stripped down nature and the inability to support "tweaking". It lacks all unneccesary components. "I dont have a life, I have a program."

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              Simon Steele
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              leppie wrote: Smoothwall's biggest disadvantage is its stripped down nature and the inability to support "tweaking". It lacks all unneccesary components Although that can be seen by some as an advantage - no temptation to tweak :) leppie wrote: Smoothwall ver 2 (aka Lite and currently in beta) supports a variety of USB ADSL devices Runs kernel 2.4. Yes, but unfortunately my PC (p100 48mb ram) doesn't have enough poke that I'm happy about using a USB one. Also, it doesn't (currently) have any USB ports. Another big stopping point! -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                ADSL modems, do have have a NIC ports in addition to USB ports, so you just plug your network card in with the normal cable if you have one. The reason why they say USB, is because most home users don't have a home network, so they don't advertise the NIC port as they don't know what they are. The nice thing is as well, you don't have to install any USB drivers :)

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                Simon Steele
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                Thanks for your help, can you suggest one such modem that you have experience with? -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                  I plug the ADSL modem Ethernet jack into the hub/switch, then configure all the clients to use it as the default gateway. I'm not familiar with the box you're using, but I assume it will work much the same way. Is there any way you can test that configuration before you commit to something new? "When in danger, fear, or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!" - Lorelei and Lapis Lazuli Long

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                  Simon Steele
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                  Roger Wright wrote: I plug the ADSL modem Ethernet jack into the hub/switch, then configure all the clients to use it as the default gateway. I'm not familiar with the box you're using, but I assume it will work much the same way. Is there any way you can test that configuration before you commit to something new? Does't that effectively make your ADSL modem a router? Also, what modem is this and what kind of routing support does it have? Can you point port 25 at your mail server etc. -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                    Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                    Barry Lapthorn
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                    Check out http://www.adslguide.org.uk[^]. That should give you a few pointers, and what kit to buy. Don't waste your money on a frog though. B.

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                      Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                      Felix Gartsman
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                      My ADSL modem plugs into my router via ethernet. The router is by Edimax and works well. USB modems are usually perform poorly compared to ethernet ones.

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                        Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                        Jon Sagara
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                        - Buy a Linksys router/switch combo (or equivalent) or - Use one of your computers as a gateway, using either NAT or ICS The best part of having the Linksys is that you don't have to leave a computer on 24/7. Jon Sagara The world is my burrito.

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                          Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                          LongRange Shooter
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                          I'm afraid that the approach I took was to purchase a Zyxel router which takes either cable or xDSL as access to the Internet. Personally I prefer this approach since it gives me a hardware firewall between my network and the internet. Back several years ago I participated on a Internet Board that investigated the aspects of eBusiness. This board included some impressive people including the Dr. (cannot remember his name) who heads (headed) up R&D at Novell. One of the participants did a quiet install of a test server beyond the firewall. A quiet install being no DNS registration, no publication or broadcast, no way of giving people easy ways to access the box. He reported to the group that the software on the box reported 30,000 hack attempts and entry attempts at the end of one week. Would you want to expose your network to that? _____________________________________________ I have a tendancy to where my mind on my sleeve
                          I have a habit of losing my shirt...

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                            Ok, so I've looked. and I've looked. and then I looked some more. I still haven't found what I'm looking for (and no dodgy song lyrics here please!). My current high-speed (cough) service provider are ceasing my service because they are concentrating on business customers. Therefore, I'm switching to ADSL. I currently have a smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/[^]) box which acts as my gateway onto a single ethernet port internet connection. How do I share my ADSL connection over the same network? I don't particularly want to buy a router, but my smoothwall won't support USB ADSL modems. I can see that D-Link provide an Ethernet ADSL modem but can't find anything about it (DSL-300G+). Does anyone here have ADSL, and if so how do they connect their networks? (assuming they have them). -- Simon Steele Programmers Notepad - http://www.pnotepad.org/

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                            Ben Burnett
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                            I'm currently running FREESCO (stands for FREE ciSCO)[^] on an old Pentium 75 with two NIC cards. My ADSL modem is hooked into one of the cards while the other feeds into a 4 port hub. It was relatively easy to setup and considering I had all the old hardware kicking around, it was cheap too.

                            If you have an old computer kicking around, then I would say that this is the way I’d go. cheers, -B

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