On Politics...
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Shog9 wrote: Who's he? The doppelganger son of Jack Schitt. Forgotten and unloved because Afghanis Schitt is not funny, not like Deep Schitt or In Schitt is.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Giles wrote: And if you live in the UK And if you, heaven forbid, live in any other country other than the UK or US... well it does not matter, because you are either an axis of evil or not. With us or against us... The bombed or the bombers... The terroriser or the terrorised... The right or the wrong... I wonder if Aghanis had differing political directions?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: And if you, heaven forbid, live in any other country other than the UK or US... well it does not matter, because you are either an axis of evil or not. With us or against us... The bombed or the bombers... The terroriser or the terrorised... The right or the wrong... Nope, in this case it's a whole new set of questions: 1. Do you or your government support or harbor international terrorists? 2. Do you or your government plan to invade and occupy neighboring countries? 3. Do you or your government build and use chemical weapons against small ethnic groups in your country? 4. Do you or your government routinely kill your political foes and those who spaek against you? 5. Do you or your government defy UN resolutions that you agreed to a decade ago? 6. Have you or your government deliberately pissed off the most powerful military in the history of the world by killing 3000 innocent civilians in a matter of minutes?
Scoring: If you've answered YES to any of these questions be prepared to be "dealt with". Please be patient, we'll be with you as soon as we can. If you've answered NO to all of these questions, you have nothing to fear.Mike Mullikin :beer: Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. David St. Hubbins - Spinal Tap
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I said I mildly supported the idea of teaching morality, but in the final analysis it has me as supporting prayers in school. I did the same thing! Somehow, morality = prayer. I didn't quite see it that way, either. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
That's the problem with creating things like this, you have to be carefull about what implicit assumptions you are making. Clearly the creater of this particular quiz had the assumption that morality and prayer are somehow the same thing, when that isn't the same assumption that everybody is making. The other problem with these things is that they tend to try and get you to see every issue as black and white, some of the questions I really felt like I'd have to say "depends" because I wouldn't want to make some crass(IMO) generalization to cover all cases. This one wasn't too bad in that respect, but I thought the UK one was worse because I couldn't register a "no opinion" vote. All in all, I'd say there worth a laugh, but shouldn't be taken too seriously. They tend to both over simplify and over polarize the issues. On the other hand, I would be a little concerned if I came out to be Stalin or Hitler :omg:
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Normally I would drop this in the soapbox, but since politics is on everyone's mind today, I'll post here. Obviouslly many CPians have heartfelt political conviction, but I myself am neither hard-core right-wing, nor do I support higly liberal issues. That puts me in the middle of a moral dilemma: Do I vote Republican (although some democratic views have my support), or do I vote Democrat and forgo my Republican affiliation??? Truth be said, there are times I hear so much negative publicity about individual candidates that I wish Jerry Springer were on the ballot. So I set out to weigh the facts about the hot issues as objectively as possible. Taking the following test: http://issues2002.org/politics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y[^] I was able to get an objective view of my preferences. However, I turned out 54% conservative and 46% liberal :omg: What do you guys do when you are divided on the issues, and don't really like either candidate? (or am I just a fluke in the democratic system :~ ) Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons.
Personal :82% Enomic:51% Iam not euthopic,but i do beleive that at the rate capitalism is going there need to be some kind of wealth control system instituted. Otherwise the next revolution they world would see will not be agianst dictators but coorporations and the wealthy. I beleive they world has enough resources for everyone to live a wealthy life, so if you happen to have quite alot, then mabe you have somebody else's:).
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Paul Watson wrote: well it does not matter, because you are either an axis of evil or not. With us or against us... The bombed or the bombers... The terroriser or the terrorised... The right or the wrong... I don't think it mentions any of this stuff, just gauges you agaist UK politicians. Maybe I did not read the rest of the earlier post correctly. Is that what it was on about?
Giles wrote: I don't think it mentions any of this stuff, just gauges you agaist UK politicians. Maybe I did not read the rest of the earlier post correctly. Is that what it was on about? Oh no, I was not saying that is what the test was about. I was just commenting on that in my world there are only two countries that matter, the US and the UK. That often the rest of us are not represented or listened to. Oh and I was reading a story in Time about Bush and his defining people into two camps.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Paul Watson wrote: And if you, heaven forbid, live in any other country other than the UK or US... well it does not matter, because you are either an axis of evil or not. With us or against us... The bombed or the bombers... The terroriser or the terrorised... The right or the wrong... Nope, in this case it's a whole new set of questions: 1. Do you or your government support or harbor international terrorists? 2. Do you or your government plan to invade and occupy neighboring countries? 3. Do you or your government build and use chemical weapons against small ethnic groups in your country? 4. Do you or your government routinely kill your political foes and those who spaek against you? 5. Do you or your government defy UN resolutions that you agreed to a decade ago? 6. Have you or your government deliberately pissed off the most powerful military in the history of the world by killing 3000 innocent civilians in a matter of minutes?
Scoring: If you've answered YES to any of these questions be prepared to be "dealt with". Please be patient, we'll be with you as soon as we can. If you've answered NO to all of these questions, you have nothing to fear.Mike Mullikin :beer: Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. David St. Hubbins - Spinal Tap
Mike Mullikin wrote: 2. Do you or your government plan to invade and occupy neighboring countries? What about non-neighbouring countries? The US does not have a lot of options in terms of invading neighbouring countries, but it sure has the world as it's oyster for invading far-removed countries. Maybe it is an irrational dislike but I simply dislike having some other country demand anything of my country just because the other country has a big stick. If it came nicely and asked me respectfully I would not mind. Also the other country should not be able to judge me negatively if I cannot judge it back negatively without having a commando shoved up my ass. Just leave us alone, I have no truck with you, so take your truck somewhere else, please? With a cherry on top?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson -
Giles wrote: I don't think it mentions any of this stuff, just gauges you agaist UK politicians. Maybe I did not read the rest of the earlier post correctly. Is that what it was on about? Oh no, I was not saying that is what the test was about. I was just commenting on that in my world there are only two countries that matter, the US and the UK. That often the rest of us are not represented or listened to. Oh and I was reading a story in Time about Bush and his defining people into two camps.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: I was just commenting on that in my world there are only two countries that matter, the US and the UK. That often the rest of us are not represented or listened to. Its kind of funny that you think that, because let me count....11 out of 28 people I work with in my part of the department at work, are South African. A further 2 from Zimbabwe, 2 from Australia, 1 from NZ, 1 from Nigeria, 2 German and 1 Italian. Makes for some interesting stories and different points of view. I often hear the SA people talking about home, and how they think the current President is not up the job. I suppose Mandela was a hard act to follow with him having such a good international reputation. I can guess at how you feel - can't really get away from the US media, and am glad that in the UK we have something like the BBC to report news that does not come of Mr Murdocks empire for a change. The French are quite luck in thise sense with things like state sponsorship for French speaking films/movies. I suppose its just the sheer weight of numbers thing. Saying that its clear to see that the European Union (some fool wants to call it the United States of Europe) has much more infulence on our daily lives, I think more so than the US. Just beacase we are closer, despite the language dis-advantage. But saying that I like French films - because they are so clearly not hollywood. I think my mind is drifting on to other topics. Paul Watson wrote: Oh and I was reading a story in Time about Bush and his defining people into two camps. Yep but thats sadly how he thinks, Yes or No. He would make a terrible ambassador.
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Normally I would drop this in the soapbox, but since politics is on everyone's mind today, I'll post here. Obviouslly many CPians have heartfelt political conviction, but I myself am neither hard-core right-wing, nor do I support higly liberal issues. That puts me in the middle of a moral dilemma: Do I vote Republican (although some democratic views have my support), or do I vote Democrat and forgo my Republican affiliation??? Truth be said, there are times I hear so much negative publicity about individual candidates that I wish Jerry Springer were on the ballot. So I set out to weigh the facts about the hot issues as objectively as possible. Taking the following test: http://issues2002.org/politics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y[^] I was able to get an objective view of my preferences. However, I turned out 54% conservative and 46% liberal :omg: What do you guys do when you are divided on the issues, and don't really like either candidate? (or am I just a fluke in the democratic system :~ ) Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons.
Nitron wrote: What do you guys do when you are divided on the issues, and don't really like either candidate? (or am I just a fluke in the democratic system I don't think so. Sometimes it is a choice between the lesser of 2 evils. In my case, the gov of Texas. I'm very conservative...but in this case neither were good choices so I voted the party which in this case ( from my viewpoint ) was the lesser of 2 evils. The wrong thing to do is not vote. ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
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Mike Mullikin wrote: 2. Do you or your government plan to invade and occupy neighboring countries? What about non-neighbouring countries? The US does not have a lot of options in terms of invading neighbouring countries, but it sure has the world as it's oyster for invading far-removed countries. Maybe it is an irrational dislike but I simply dislike having some other country demand anything of my country just because the other country has a big stick. If it came nicely and asked me respectfully I would not mind. Also the other country should not be able to judge me negatively if I cannot judge it back negatively without having a commando shoved up my ass. Just leave us alone, I have no truck with you, so take your truck somewhere else, please? With a cherry on top?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: What about non-neighbouring countries? The US does not have a lot of options in terms of invading neighbouring countries, but it sure has the world as it's oyster for invading far-removed countries. The question said "invade and occupy". We invade & liberate. ;P Even then it usually involves the "host" country engaging in one of the activities outlined in the previous questions. Paul Watson wrote: Also the other country should not be able to judge me negatively if I cannot judge it back negatively without having a commando shoved up my ass. Damn Paul, why so paranoid? What are you people doing down there in SA that you fear the US/UK??
Mike Mullikin :beer: Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. David St. Hubbins - Spinal Tap
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Paul Watson wrote: And if you, heaven forbid, live in any other country other than the UK or US... well it does not matter, because you are either an axis of evil or not. With us or against us... The bombed or the bombers... The terroriser or the terrorised... The right or the wrong... Nope, in this case it's a whole new set of questions: 1. Do you or your government support or harbor international terrorists? 2. Do you or your government plan to invade and occupy neighboring countries? 3. Do you or your government build and use chemical weapons against small ethnic groups in your country? 4. Do you or your government routinely kill your political foes and those who spaek against you? 5. Do you or your government defy UN resolutions that you agreed to a decade ago? 6. Have you or your government deliberately pissed off the most powerful military in the history of the world by killing 3000 innocent civilians in a matter of minutes?
Scoring: If you've answered YES to any of these questions be prepared to be "dealt with". Please be patient, we'll be with you as soon as we can. If you've answered NO to all of these questions, you have nothing to fear.Mike Mullikin :beer: Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. David St. Hubbins - Spinal Tap
Mike Mullikin wrote: 1. Do you or your government support or harbor international terrorists? And do those terrorists intend to strike against the US or allies. If no , don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 2. Do you or your government plan to invade and occupy neighboring countries? Does your country or any of those neighbouring countries have interesting natural resources ? If no don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 3. Do you or your government build and use chemical weapons against small ethnic groups in your country? Can your country classify them as dangerous terrorists ? If yes don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 4. Do you or your government routinely kill your political foes and those who spaek against you? Can those foes be classified as terrorists or supporters of terrorism? If yes don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 5. Do you or your government defy UN resolutions that you agreed to a decade ago? Does your government have the backing of the US when ignoring those resolutions ? If yes don't worry. Mike Mullikin wrote: 6. Have you or your government deliberately pissed off the most powerful military in the history of the world by killing 3000 innocent civilians in a matter of minutes? Did your country receive US military aid before/during/after such incidents ? If yes don't worry.
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Paul Watson wrote: What about non-neighbouring countries? The US does not have a lot of options in terms of invading neighbouring countries, but it sure has the world as it's oyster for invading far-removed countries. The question said "invade and occupy". We invade & liberate. ;P Even then it usually involves the "host" country engaging in one of the activities outlined in the previous questions. Paul Watson wrote: Also the other country should not be able to judge me negatively if I cannot judge it back negatively without having a commando shoved up my ass. Damn Paul, why so paranoid? What are you people doing down there in SA that you fear the US/UK??
Mike Mullikin :beer: Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. David St. Hubbins - Spinal Tap
Mike Mullikin wrote: Damn Paul, why so paranoid? What are you people doing down there in SA that you fear the US/UK?? Not really paranoid. Just a matter of realising that there according to the leader of a nation armed to the teeth there are only two options. Follow their lead or die. If you are not with him all the way, you are the Enemy (even if that Enemy is your enemy as well but you happen to have a different opinion about defeating him)
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Normally I would drop this in the soapbox, but since politics is on everyone's mind today, I'll post here. Obviouslly many CPians have heartfelt political conviction, but I myself am neither hard-core right-wing, nor do I support higly liberal issues. That puts me in the middle of a moral dilemma: Do I vote Republican (although some democratic views have my support), or do I vote Democrat and forgo my Republican affiliation??? Truth be said, there are times I hear so much negative publicity about individual candidates that I wish Jerry Springer were on the ballot. So I set out to weigh the facts about the hot issues as objectively as possible. Taking the following test: http://issues2002.org/politics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y[^] I was able to get an objective view of my preferences. However, I turned out 54% conservative and 46% liberal :omg: What do you guys do when you are divided on the issues, and don't really like either candidate? (or am I just a fluke in the democratic system :~ ) Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons.
I hear that Arnold Shazzanigger <-- Spelling Is running for Governer in California and I am going to vote for him, can't be worst than what we got :laugh:
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Mike Mullikin wrote: 1. Do you or your government support or harbor international terrorists? And do those terrorists intend to strike against the US or allies. If no , don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 2. Do you or your government plan to invade and occupy neighboring countries? Does your country or any of those neighbouring countries have interesting natural resources ? If no don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 3. Do you or your government build and use chemical weapons against small ethnic groups in your country? Can your country classify them as dangerous terrorists ? If yes don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 4. Do you or your government routinely kill your political foes and those who spaek against you? Can those foes be classified as terrorists or supporters of terrorism? If yes don't worry Mike Mullikin wrote: 5. Do you or your government defy UN resolutions that you agreed to a decade ago? Does your government have the backing of the US when ignoring those resolutions ? If yes don't worry. Mike Mullikin wrote: 6. Have you or your government deliberately pissed off the most powerful military in the history of the world by killing 3000 innocent civilians in a matter of minutes? Did your country receive US military aid before/during/after such incidents ? If yes don't worry.
William De Prêtre wrote: And do those terrorists intend to strike against the US or allies. If no , don't worry I would think that the intended target countries would be interested in these terrorists so the US/UK need not be involved. William De Prêtre wrote: Does your country or any of those neighbouring countries have interesting natural resources ? If no don't worry Interestingly, country A rarely invades country B in the first place if country B is lacking natural resources - so this point is moot. William De Prêtre wrote: Can your country classify them as dangerous terrorists ? If yes don't worry William De Prêtre wrote: Can those foes be classified as terrorists or supporters of terrorism? If yes don't worry One country's freedom fighters are another's terrorists. Each country makes its decision based on it's current perspective - how else can any decision be made? William De Prêtre wrote: Does your government have the backing of the US when ignoring those resolutions ? If yes don't worry. If the UN had any backbone at all they would point out these occasions and do something about it. William De Prêtre wrote: Did your country receive US military aid before/during/after such incidents ? If yes don't worry There are very few countries remaining that have not recieved US military aid at one time or another so again this point is moot. Look I'm not really trying to justify all of the US actions over the last 50 years - or even it's current ones. Paul just surprised me when he wrote such a paranoid post.
Mike Mullikin :beer: Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. David St. Hubbins - Spinal Tap
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Damn Paul, why so paranoid? What are you people doing down there in SA that you fear the US/UK?? Not really paranoid. Just a matter of realising that there according to the leader of a nation armed to the teeth there are only two options. Follow their lead or die. If you are not with him all the way, you are the Enemy (even if that Enemy is your enemy as well but you happen to have a different opinion about defeating him)
William De Prêtre wrote: you happen to have a different opinion about defeating him Amen William! Here comes the cavalry. Thanks for the support Mr. De Prêtre.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Damn Paul, why so paranoid? What are you people doing down there in SA that you fear the US/UK?? Not really paranoid. Just a matter of realising that there according to the leader of a nation armed to the teeth there are only two options. Follow their lead or die. If you are not with him all the way, you are the Enemy (even if that Enemy is your enemy as well but you happen to have a different opinion about defeating him)
William De Prêtre wrote: Not really paranoid. Just a matter of realising that there according to the leader of a nation armed to the teeth there are only two options. Follow their lead or die. If you are not with him all the way, you are the Enemy (even if that Enemy is your enemy as well but you happen to have a different opinion about defeating him) Bush is a Texan. Texans tend to dramatize things. France, Russia and China aren't exactly helping things along in the UN right now as far as Bush is concerned but we're not bombing them. Where has the US actually threatened anybody with "actively help us or we'll kill you"? That's total BS and you know it. Apparently Texans aren't the only ones who dramatize...
Mike Mullikin :beer: Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. David St. Hubbins - Spinal Tap
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Normally I would drop this in the soapbox, but since politics is on everyone's mind today, I'll post here. Obviouslly many CPians have heartfelt political conviction, but I myself am neither hard-core right-wing, nor do I support higly liberal issues. That puts me in the middle of a moral dilemma: Do I vote Republican (although some democratic views have my support), or do I vote Democrat and forgo my Republican affiliation??? Truth be said, there are times I hear so much negative publicity about individual candidates that I wish Jerry Springer were on the ballot. So I set out to weigh the facts about the hot issues as objectively as possible. Taking the following test: http://issues2002.org/politics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y[^] I was able to get an objective view of my preferences. However, I turned out 54% conservative and 46% liberal :omg: What do you guys do when you are divided on the issues, and don't really like either candidate? (or am I just a fluke in the democratic system :~ ) Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons.
32/58. Not guite as right wing as I thought I was apparently. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Paul Watson wrote: I was just commenting on that in my world there are only two countries that matter, the US and the UK. That often the rest of us are not represented or listened to. Its kind of funny that you think that, because let me count....11 out of 28 people I work with in my part of the department at work, are South African. A further 2 from Zimbabwe, 2 from Australia, 1 from NZ, 1 from Nigeria, 2 German and 1 Italian. Makes for some interesting stories and different points of view. I often hear the SA people talking about home, and how they think the current President is not up the job. I suppose Mandela was a hard act to follow with him having such a good international reputation. I can guess at how you feel - can't really get away from the US media, and am glad that in the UK we have something like the BBC to report news that does not come of Mr Murdocks empire for a change. The French are quite luck in thise sense with things like state sponsorship for French speaking films/movies. I suppose its just the sheer weight of numbers thing. Saying that its clear to see that the European Union (some fool wants to call it the United States of Europe) has much more infulence on our daily lives, I think more so than the US. Just beacase we are closer, despite the language dis-advantage. But saying that I like French films - because they are so clearly not hollywood. I think my mind is drifting on to other topics. Paul Watson wrote: Oh and I was reading a story in Time about Bush and his defining people into two camps. Yep but thats sadly how he thinks, Yes or No. He would make a terrible ambassador.
Giles wrote: I suppose its just the sheer weight of numbers thing. That is definitely a factor. The US can just throw so much shit at you that all you can do is spend your time reacting, fending off, not constructing, not progressing. Even if the shit does not stick or even if it could never stick, it is still being thrown, still coming at you. Giles wrote: Its kind of funny that you think that, because let me count....11 out of 28 people I work with in my part of the department at work, are South African. A further 2 from Zimbabwe, 2 from Australia, 1 from NZ, 1 from Nigeria, 2 German and 1 Italian. Sure but they actually do not represent my country anymore. They are becoming representative of the country they live in. SA could implode and they would be sad yes but not really affected. (Obviously there is some representation... just like Arabs living in America are affected by their "home" countries even though they may not represent the countrys actions)... Anyway, a bit late to think straight, need sleep... drifting onto all sorts of topics :) Giles wrote: He would make a terrible ambassador. Yet here he is, head of the US, representative of the United States of America, voted there by it's citizens. Makes me wonder is he a false representative or a frightentingly true representative?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Giles wrote: I suppose its just the sheer weight of numbers thing. That is definitely a factor. The US can just throw so much shit at you that all you can do is spend your time reacting, fending off, not constructing, not progressing. Even if the shit does not stick or even if it could never stick, it is still being thrown, still coming at you. Giles wrote: Its kind of funny that you think that, because let me count....11 out of 28 people I work with in my part of the department at work, are South African. A further 2 from Zimbabwe, 2 from Australia, 1 from NZ, 1 from Nigeria, 2 German and 1 Italian. Sure but they actually do not represent my country anymore. They are becoming representative of the country they live in. SA could implode and they would be sad yes but not really affected. (Obviously there is some representation... just like Arabs living in America are affected by their "home" countries even though they may not represent the countrys actions)... Anyway, a bit late to think straight, need sleep... drifting onto all sorts of topics :) Giles wrote: He would make a terrible ambassador. Yet here he is, head of the US, representative of the United States of America, voted there by it's citizens. Makes me wonder is he a false representative or a frightentingly true representative?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: That is definitely a factor. The US can just throw so much sh*t at you that all you can do is spend your time reacting, fending off, not constructing, not progressing. Even if the sh*t does not stick or even if it could never stick, it is still being thrown, still coming at you. You can run, but you can't hide. Sady that has never sounded truer. :( Paul Watson wrote: Makes me wonder is he a false representative or a frightentingly true representative? Probably true, considering they had to sue each other to get into power. Don't know if I should :laugh: or :((
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Normally I would drop this in the soapbox, but since politics is on everyone's mind today, I'll post here. Obviouslly many CPians have heartfelt political conviction, but I myself am neither hard-core right-wing, nor do I support higly liberal issues. That puts me in the middle of a moral dilemma: Do I vote Republican (although some democratic views have my support), or do I vote Democrat and forgo my Republican affiliation??? Truth be said, there are times I hear so much negative publicity about individual candidates that I wish Jerry Springer were on the ballot. So I set out to weigh the facts about the hot issues as objectively as possible. Taking the following test: http://issues2002.org/politics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y[^] I was able to get an objective view of my preferences. However, I turned out 54% conservative and 46% liberal :omg: What do you guys do when you are divided on the issues, and don't really like either candidate? (or am I just a fluke in the democratic system :~ ) Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons.
As suggested I strongly suggest you ignore the parties and vote for whom you believe will be the best and support your beliefs. As Ed K said, we in Texas had a real problem with our choice for Governor. The conservative (of which I am definitely on that side, so I usually vote for the Republican candidate, but not blindly so) just a few years ago (10?) was Al Gore's Texas campaign chairman and the liberal candidate supported G.W. for both Gov. and Pres. SO WHICH one? Neither can be really standing for their beliefs. Nitron wrote: What do you guys do when you are divided on the issues, and don't really like either candidate? (or am I just a fluke in the democratic system ) No you are no fluke, this is just really hard at times. In my case I finally picked the one I thought had the most integrity. (Even though both scores were very low.)
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And if you live in the UK http://www.politicalcompass.org/[^]
Heh. I was about to reply with ASSERT( everyone == american ) :-D -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!