Typing
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viaducting wrote:
Is the word "a" ?
More complex than that - take the test yourself[^].
It's time for a new sig. Seriously.
I can now sustain 85 WPM with ~97% accuracy (this is from a different program that I downloaded a while ago). I can't even touch type. ;P
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Wow, Pete, you are the first real person I see who really wants to give Dvorak a try. Good luck !
There was at least one developer using a Dvorak keyboard in the last place I worked. I didn't follow up on it then, but i'm thinking i'll download the driver tonight to see if it works on my laptop at home. I do like the idea of all the brackets and operators on the number keys without the need for the shift key as i tend to find those a bit awkward. I'll let you know how i get on.
Pete
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Rage wrote:
How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ?
Very fast and accurate when playing Half Life 2 deathmatch :) reaonable fast the rest of the time though. Accuracy us my probvlem - I use lot s of different keyboards and the accuracy foes down depending one hwic one i use and how lng for!
Rage wrote:
How did you learn typing ?
i have ben using computers since 1977 so it sort of comes with the territory. I have taught myself to touch type (more or less) by simply looking at which fingers you are meant to use, then using them while looking at the screen, and starting off slowly. It is frustrating at first as you make lots of mistakes - but if you keep it up in everyday typing, it soon becomes natural. (although I don't tend to touch type when coding - too many shifts required - why hasn't someone done a coders keyboard where teh freuqently used programming keys are unshifted? Didn't the BBC computer keyboard do that?
Rage wrote:
How many fingers are you using ?
8 fingers, two thumbs although when coding, probably six fingers and the thumbs.
Rage wrote:
. Any recommendation ?
There used to be a "mavis Beacon teaches typing" that we used at work for the staff - they liked it apparently - I never used it.
Rage wrote:
Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate... Quote Selected Text
or dragon Naturally speaking?
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
why hasn't someone done a coders keyboard where teh freuqently used programming keys are unshifted?
Programmers Dvorak[^] ok, i'm harping on now, that's it.
Pete
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
Rage wrote:
How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ?
I type 90 WPM with errors factored in (and full touch typing.)
Rage wrote:
How did you learn typing ?
I learned at home, but had a formal class in high school. It wasn't a mandatory class, but highly suggested. My youngest daughter has been typing over 60 wpm since she was ten or so. She's probably up to 70 or 80 wpm now. Last time we measured, my oldest son typed at 60-70 wpm, though his error rate is higher than his sisters. The other two kids type about 50-60. We all type faster than my wife, which annoys her. (On the other hand, my wife can ten-key like the wind--she worked in a bank clearing house early in our marriage and got very good.)
Rage wrote:
I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills,
Practice, practice, practice. Mavis Beacon Typing is still around. Don't know if it's any good.
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Rage wrote:
How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ?
I type 90 WPM with errors factored in (and full touch typing.)
Rage wrote:
How did you learn typing ?
I learned at home, but had a formal class in high school. It wasn't a mandatory class, but highly suggested. My youngest daughter has been typing over 60 wpm since she was ten or so. She's probably up to 70 or 80 wpm now. Last time we measured, my oldest son typed at 60-70 wpm, though his error rate is higher than his sisters. The other two kids type about 50-60. We all type faster than my wife, which annoys her. (On the other hand, my wife can ten-key like the wind--she worked in a bank clearing house early in our marriage and got very good.)
Rage wrote:
I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills,
Practice, practice, practice. Mavis Beacon Typing is still around. Don't know if it's any good.
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
my wife can ten-key
I presume this means using the num keypad ? I am also quite good at it, having had in multiple occasion to enter a lot of figures in Excel...
Rage wrote:
I presume this means using the num keypad ?
Yes.
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Easy: 01 10 11 Using 10 fingers you can count from 0 to 1023
:laugh: :laugh: i HAVE to steal this one.
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
I started learning to type on a non-electric Smith-Corona portable typewriter when I was about ten years old. My father was a self-trained fast typist and I learned at his feet and from books checked out of the library on the subject. I had to pound pretty hard on the keys all the way through college. I don't think I ever got beyond 60 WPM. Practice, if you will, is the key. Body memory helps to get to the automated response. I thought it was pointless typing "fff jjj" over and over but it helped to get the neurons firing without conscious thought.
I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office
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Did you look at the Dvorak keyboard? Aparently the typing speed record is held by someone using a Dvorak. There are drivers available for the programmer Dvorak layout here[^] and just this morning I ordered a couple of sets of Programmer Dvorak keyboard stickers here[^]. The first link has a link to a basic course in Dvorak. I might be harping on a bit about this now, since I haven't used a Dvorak keyboard myself yet, so i'm just going to leave it at that. :-D
Pete
I've been trying to find a break to learn a Dvorak keyboard (programming). Got the stickers, and built a keyboard layout for Windows (if anyone is interested, I'm willing to share the layout). Now if only I could slow down for a couple of weeks to learn it - only tried it for a couple hours so far. It is easier on the fingers though... Best way to learn to type - type alot. Type whatever comes into your head as fast as you can - looking at a paper or trying to type something specific will only slow you down - and for programming you are rarely re-typing what someone else wrote.
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
I average about 70-80wpm and peak out at 90wpm... I type using 9 fingers, because when I learned to touch type (back in the 80's) we were taught to hit the space bar with our right thumb only... Not sure why - maybe something to do with the left hand moving off the keys to push the carriage return bar to move the drum back to the right... I was the only bloke in the class, and took it because my mum suggested I do it "because I like computers". We used old manual typewriters, and after 2.5 years of typing, I could type about 23wpm, not even fast enough to qualify for a typing certificate (min was 25wpm). The way my typing increased was to get hooked on IRC back in my uni days (internet relay chat), where if you typed fast you kept up, otherwise you fell behind... Learning to type was one of the best things I ever did as far as overall value goes...
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
It took me one month (30 minutes every day) to become full touch typist using "Typing Tutor 6" (old, but gold) Nowdays http://app.typrx.com/[^] says I'm doing 70 WPM. And BTW Das Keyboard is worth every cent :)
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
Back in the old days, we all had to take typing in 8th grade. We learned on a Selectric. I was always peaking at my fingers so the teacher taped a piece of paper over my fingers. Then by the end of the term, we were competing with each other to see who could type fastest. I had gotten to about 75 wpm by the end of the three month class. Once you have the keyboard memorized it's easy to try to get your speed up. When I feel I've slowed down, I go to the games section on yahoo.com and play wordracer - that'll get your speed back up - it's like the game "Boggle". I've also heard Mavis Beacon is good for learning. There are training programs on disk for that.
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
As a real old-timer, I learned to type in high school, using an IBM 029 Keypunch. For those who have never programmed using anything but a keyboard and CRT, a Keypunch was a device for putting holes in punched cards. Those cards contained one line of code each, and were subsequently fed to a card reader, which was a necessary peripheral on computers until well into the 1980s. In the 70s, keypunch operators were paid $3.50 an hour, which was way beyond the financial reach of a high school student. Since the computer centre made keypunches available, you learned to do it yourself, or you didn't program. The 029 was a direct-action device, in that when you hit a key, a hole got punched. When IBM invented the Model 129, we were amazed by the technological advance, as the 129 buffered a card until the Release (Enter) key was pressed, then it punched the entire card at once. The 029 had very stiff keys, so you tended to hammer on the keyboard (as I still do). The 129 had a great soft-touch feel to it, which made punching much more comfortable. Even after more than 40 years at a keyboard, I'm still not a touch typist, but I'm generally fast enough for my brain when it comes to coding. Both of my kids are touch typists, and are faster than I am, but then they don't write code, only English and French.
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Did you look at the Dvorak keyboard? Aparently the typing speed record is held by someone using a Dvorak. There are drivers available for the programmer Dvorak layout here[^] and just this morning I ordered a couple of sets of Programmer Dvorak keyboard stickers here[^]. The first link has a link to a basic course in Dvorak. I might be harping on a bit about this now, since I haven't used a Dvorak keyboard myself yet, so i'm just going to leave it at that. :-D
Pete
I tried Dvorak once. The problem I had was that I often worked on computers other than my own, troubleshooting software, etc. My poor brain never got far enough along in learning Dvorak to successfully switch back and forth. I wound up typing gibberish fheipamd. Whs ohro kws fnsusmf.
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Wow, Pete, you are the first real person I see who really wants to give Dvorak a try. Good luck !
I learned to "touch type" in about two weeks. Before that I was a five finger wonder (forefingers, middle fingers, and right thumb). Not sure of my speed... but it sure is faster than five fingers and looking up and down between keyboard and screen. They actually make Dvorak keyboards. Check it out: http://www.typematrix.com. I have had one for 10 years. I really like the columns and rows of keys instead of the weird angles for "normal" keyboards. These keyboards don't need software and, if you get the one I have, you can switch between Dvorak and Qwerty and the touch of a button with the keys imprinted with both sets of letters. Thats my two cents anyway.
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
I suppose I use the Columbus Method(tm), You find it and then land on it. Back in the days of high school and ASR-33 teletypes, I could span the entire keyboard with one hand (I have yet to meet anyone with hands larger than mine) and so could type with one hand and point to my handwritten notes with the other. Nowadays I use the sight directed method with both hands. Tried to learn "typing" a few times, but never got to the speed I had already achieved with my self-taught methods.
Psychosis at 10 Film at 11
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Easy: 01 10 11 Using 10 fingers you can count from 0 to 1023
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
Back in the day, I learned to type on a VAX VMS system - where they unlocked the typing tutor app over the lunch hour. I can almost entirely type without having to look at the keyboard, although sometimes I do have to think about what finger to use to get a specific key. Especially the top row. When it comes to striking the keyboard - I generally hit it every time (but am careful not to abuse the poor thing). When it comes to accurately hitting specific keys, however ...
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How fast and how accurate are you at striking your keyboards ? How did you learn typing ? How many fingers are you using ? I am an average typist, and would like to improve my skills, but I didn't find any good tool/app to do so. Any recommendation ? Maybe the first step would be to switch to Das Keayboard Ultimate...
When did I learn typing? Back in summer school in Jr High School. It was hell. In that class, the typewriters did not have the letters on the keys. You had to look up a board where the keyboard arrangement was posted in the front of the auditorium. I think I got my first case of hives then. Later on, when as a freshman in college, with some practice, it would take at least four hours to type up a two page English paper (after I had written it out long hand). I guess I just needed more practice. Later in my college life, I got much better. I could whip out a 10 page term paper in one day. Then came computers and text editors. Correcting mistakes was much easier. Then came word processors, like MS Word. Now I can easily add special effects (fonts, etc.). Ah, the trials we have to go through to get to where we are.