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  • _ _Damian S_

    Given where you live, I can make assumptions about which particular school your kids might attend... and if that's the case, I can't believe you would be surprised that they hold such beliefs!! (Of course, if it's not *that* school, I take that all back.) That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc

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    Sea Shepherd ?

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      Found out the other day that my son's teacher's assistant (let's call her Anne) has gone on hols for four weeks to the UK, so he has a substitute teacher for four weeks. Fair enough. The email informing us then went on to say that, if we wished to subscribe to Anne's email newsletter about crop circles, to contact her. The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things. I was both astonished and horrified. Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made? People making them have filmed themselves, and shown how it was done? How can a sane person believe in their mystical powers?? And she's teaching my Boy! The Wife(tm) did point out that it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic (for example) - fine as long as they don't preach to the kids. But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children! your thoughts?

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      But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children!

      I think that I would prefer to know what my kid's teacher beliefs are so that I can compensate if necessary. There are a whole lot of different beliefs out there and many of your kid's past and future teachers will believe all sorts of things you don't know about. I'd be a whole lot more concerned about that. Cheers, Drew.

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        Found out the other day that my son's teacher's assistant (let's call her Anne) has gone on hols for four weeks to the UK, so he has a substitute teacher for four weeks. Fair enough. The email informing us then went on to say that, if we wished to subscribe to Anne's email newsletter about crop circles, to contact her. The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things. I was both astonished and horrified. Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made? People making them have filmed themselves, and shown how it was done? How can a sane person believe in their mystical powers?? And she's teaching my Boy! The Wife(tm) did point out that it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic (for example) - fine as long as they don't preach to the kids. But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children! your thoughts?

        ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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        _Maxxx_ wrote:

        And she's teaching my Boy!

        Yo Max, wake up, smell the coffee, insanity is a prerequisite for teaching, who else but the clinically insane would accept the responsibility of trying to teach the little buggers without the power to belt them every now and then. I have all the sympathy in the world for teachers, leave them a little self delusion, crop circles are relatively harmless after all.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          I know what you mean, but, I read a book recently called 'why smart people believe dumb things'. Odds are that apart from this stupidity, she is perfectly sane and capable of teaching your child. My wife, for example, believes in ghosts.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          I have a copy of "Why People Believe Weird Things"[^].

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            Sea Shepherd ?

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            Aren't they the maniacs who were taunting the Japanese whalers and got a borrowed trimaran seriously damaged/scuttled?

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              _Maxxx_ wrote:

              But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children!

              I think that I would prefer to know what my kid's teacher beliefs are so that I can compensate if necessary. There are a whole lot of different beliefs out there and many of your kid's past and future teachers will believe all sorts of things you don't know about. I'd be a whole lot more concerned about that. Cheers, Drew.

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              My Maths B ( higher maths ) teacher in year 11 spent at least half of the class time talking about Buddhism. It's also worth remembering, IMO, that I sat through a year of that, thought the world of this particular teacher, often went and spoke to him at lunchtimes, and while I may have come to respect his beliefs ( it's hard to say for sure with the passage of time ), I know for sure I never once considered becoming a Buddhist myself, then or ever since.

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                Aren't they the maniacs who were taunting the Japanese whalers and got a borrowed trimaran seriously damaged/scuttled?

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                Oh, those idiots ? I knew I knew the name.

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                  I have a copy of "Why People Believe Weird Things"[^].

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                  That's the one, I read a mountain of his books, one after the other. I found them most interesting.

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                    My Maths B ( higher maths ) teacher in year 11 spent at least half of the class time talking about Buddhism. It's also worth remembering, IMO, that I sat through a year of that, thought the world of this particular teacher, often went and spoke to him at lunchtimes, and while I may have come to respect his beliefs ( it's hard to say for sure with the passage of time ), I know for sure I never once considered becoming a Buddhist myself, then or ever since.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    was this before or after you got into metal? B

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                      was this before or after you got into metal? B

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                      After. I was in to metal for most of my teens ( and ever since )

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                        Found out the other day that my son's teacher's assistant (let's call her Anne) has gone on hols for four weeks to the UK, so he has a substitute teacher for four weeks. Fair enough. The email informing us then went on to say that, if we wished to subscribe to Anne's email newsletter about crop circles, to contact her. The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things. I was both astonished and horrified. Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made? People making them have filmed themselves, and shown how it was done? How can a sane person believe in their mystical powers?? And she's teaching my Boy! The Wife(tm) did point out that it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic (for example) - fine as long as they don't preach to the kids. But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children! your thoughts?

                        ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                        I find it inappropriate to use an official e-mail to advertise a private hobby, but only mildly so.

                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                        Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made?

                        It was once "proven" that in a car going faster than 30km/h people would suffocate. And no, I don't believe in crop circle healing powers, except maybe for city cave dwellers that wouldn't get a dose of fresh air otherwise.

                        _Maxxx_ wrote:

                        And she's teaching my Boy!

                        Who will probably grow up to become a fundamentalist lunatic because of hearing about crop circles as a child. After all, teachers are very important. A teacher who is into tupperware parties would make him a fierce economist, a teacher playing WOW on weekend would make him the top game programmer of his generation.

                        WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?

                        People believe in reincarnating souls and lead a fine life. Kids hear about heaven and hell and grow up to become fine adults, religous or not. Good friends of mine believe in homeopathy, and they didn't die yet. If your kid at some age realizes that it once believed in crop circle magic, and that was total crap, it might learn an important life lesson: we can all be wrong. If your kid starts to enjoy being outdoors, or to ponder the big questions - are there aliens? How could they communicate with them? - the better. Life isn't what you think it is. Nor are my convictions any better. Heck, if you put all the crap I once believed on a pile and light it up, you could probably power a manned mars mission.

                        Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                          Given where you live, I can make assumptions about which particular school your kids might attend... and if that's the case, I can't believe you would be surprised that they hold such beliefs!! (Of course, if it's not *that* school, I take that all back.) That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc

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                          _Damian S_ wrote:

                          That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc

                          I think it is fundamentally different in that there is reasoned argument regarding whether AGW is a fact. Belief in something being good or bad doesn't fall into the same category at all. And just because 'that' school is populated by weed-smokin' kaftan wearin' hemp weavin' hippies, doesn't mean they're all thick - oh!,. hang on!

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                            _Damian S_ wrote:

                            That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc

                            I think it is fundamentally different in that there is reasoned argument regarding whether AGW is a fact. Belief in something being good or bad doesn't fall into the same category at all. And just because 'that' school is populated by weed-smokin' kaftan wearin' hemp weavin' hippies, doesn't mean they're all thick - oh!,. hang on!

                            ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                            _Maxxx_ wrote:

                            And just because 'that' school is populated by weed-smokin' kaftan wearin' hemp weavin' hippies, doesn't mean they're all thick - oh!,. hang on!

                            :laugh: :laugh: I didn't say thick, I said had strange beliefs!! ;-)

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                              I know what you mean, but, I read a book recently called 'why smart people believe dumb things'. Odds are that apart from this stupidity, she is perfectly sane and capable of teaching your child. My wife, for example, believes in ghosts.

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              My wife, for example, believes in ghosts.

                              I trust you make spooky noises at every opportunity :)

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                                _Damian S_ wrote:

                                That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc

                                I think it is fundamentally different in that there is reasoned argument regarding whether AGW is a fact. Belief in something being good or bad doesn't fall into the same category at all. And just because 'that' school is populated by weed-smokin' kaftan wearin' hemp weavin' hippies, doesn't mean they're all thick - oh!,. hang on!

                                ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                there is reasoned argument regarding whether AGW is a fact

                                Not anywhere that I've seen !!!

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  My wife, for example, believes in ghosts.

                                  I trust you make spooky noises at every opportunity :)

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                                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  I trust you make spooky noises at every opportunity

                                  Especially if that includes flashing your Wangaratta and going woo woooo!!

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    My wife, for example, believes in ghosts.

                                    I trust you make spooky noises at every opportunity :)

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                                    I avoid the topic, and walk off if she has shows about it on TV. It's not worth fighting over, I won't change her mind, or endear myself to her by revealing my general opinion of people who believe such things.

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                                      _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                      And she's teaching my Boy!

                                      Yo Max, wake up, smell the coffee, insanity is a prerequisite for teaching, who else but the clinically insane would accept the responsibility of trying to teach the little buggers without the power to belt them every now and then. I have all the sympathy in the world for teachers, leave them a little self delusion, crop circles are relatively harmless after all.

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      you are talking to someone who is about to go back into the classroom (as a teacher) in about three weeks... Yep - you're right. Clinically insane. Perhaps I'll start agreeing with DD about the moon landing by the time the Xmas hols come around :)

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                                        I avoid the topic, and walk off if she has shows about it on TV. It's not worth fighting over, I won't change her mind, or endear myself to her by revealing my general opinion of people who believe such things.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        or endear myself to her

                                        She finds you endearing now? :sigh:

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                                          I find it inappropriate to use an official e-mail to advertise a private hobby, but only mildly so.

                                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                          Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made?

                                          It was once "proven" that in a car going faster than 30km/h people would suffocate. And no, I don't believe in crop circle healing powers, except maybe for city cave dwellers that wouldn't get a dose of fresh air otherwise.

                                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                          And she's teaching my Boy!

                                          Who will probably grow up to become a fundamentalist lunatic because of hearing about crop circles as a child. After all, teachers are very important. A teacher who is into tupperware parties would make him a fierce economist, a teacher playing WOW on weekend would make him the top game programmer of his generation.

                                          WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?

                                          People believe in reincarnating souls and lead a fine life. Kids hear about heaven and hell and grow up to become fine adults, religous or not. Good friends of mine believe in homeopathy, and they didn't die yet. If your kid at some age realizes that it once believed in crop circle magic, and that was total crap, it might learn an important life lesson: we can all be wrong. If your kid starts to enjoy being outdoors, or to ponder the big questions - are there aliens? How could they communicate with them? - the better. Life isn't what you think it is. Nor are my convictions any better. Heck, if you put all the crap I once believed on a pile and light it up, you could probably power a manned mars mission.

                                          Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
                                          | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.

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                                          peterchen wrote:

                                          WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?

                                          Jeez - no need to shout! I'm not seriously bothered about my boy believing in crop circles or not - he told us a while ago that he doesn't believe in God - he thinks Santa probably made everything (I just typo'd that as Satan!!!!!) You misunderstood that my concern was that she'd teach the boy that crop circles are drawn by aliens (or whatever) - that's not the thing that bothered me - I was genuinely surprised that there were apparently sane humans that still believed in crop circles when they are so obviously and demonstrably pranks.

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