Crop Circles
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I avoid the topic, and walk off if she has shows about it on TV. It's not worth fighting over, I won't change her mind, or endear myself to her by revealing my general opinion of people who believe such things.
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or endear myself to her
She finds you endearing now? :sigh:
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made?
It was once "proven" that in a car going faster than 30km/h people would suffocate. And no, I don't believe in crop circle healing powers, except maybe for city cave dwellers that wouldn't get a dose of fresh air otherwise.
_Maxxx_ wrote:
And she's teaching my Boy!
Who will probably grow up to become a fundamentalist lunatic because of hearing about crop circles as a child. After all, teachers are very important. A teacher who is into tupperware parties would make him a fierce economist, a teacher playing WOW on weekend would make him the top game programmer of his generation.
WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?
People believe in reincarnating souls and lead a fine life. Kids hear about heaven and hell and grow up to become fine adults, religous or not. Good friends of mine believe in homeopathy, and they didn't die yet. If your kid at some age realizes that it once believed in crop circle magic, and that was total crap, it might learn an important life lesson: we can all be wrong. If your kid starts to enjoy being outdoors, or to ponder the big questions - are there aliens? How could they communicate with them? - the better. Life isn't what you think it is. Nor are my convictions any better. Heck, if you put all the crap I once believed on a pile and light it up, you could probably power a manned mars mission.
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WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?
Jeez - no need to shout! I'm not seriously bothered about my boy believing in crop circles or not - he told us a while ago that he doesn't believe in God - he thinks Santa probably made everything (I just typo'd that as Satan!!!!!) You misunderstood that my concern was that she'd teach the boy that crop circles are drawn by aliens (or whatever) - that's not the thing that bothered me - I was genuinely surprised that there were apparently sane humans that still believed in crop circles when they are so obviously and demonstrably pranks.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
And just because 'that' school is populated by weed-smokin' kaftan wearin' hemp weavin' hippies, doesn't mean they're all thick - oh!,. hang on!
:laugh: :laugh: I didn't say thick, I said had strange beliefs!! ;-)
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_Damian S_ wrote:
I didn't say thick
No - but I feel that to believe in crop circles you MUST be thick.
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So it IS that school? ;-)
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Given where you live, I can make assumptions about which particular school your kids might attend... and if that's the case, I can't believe you would be surprised that they hold such beliefs!! (Of course, if it's not *that* school, I take that all back.) That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc
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_Damian S_ wrote:
Given where you live, I can make assumptions about which particular school your kids might attend... and if that's the case, I can't believe you would be surprised that they hold such beliefs!! (Of course, if it's not *that* school, I take that all back.) That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc
I think the point is more that the teacher's aid shouldn't use her position to spam her beliefs to the school community.
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Found out the other day that my son's teacher's assistant (let's call her Anne) has gone on hols for four weeks to the UK, so he has a substitute teacher for four weeks. Fair enough. The email informing us then went on to say that, if we wished to subscribe to Anne's email newsletter about crop circles, to contact her. The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things. I was both astonished and horrified. Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made? People making them have filmed themselves, and shown how it was done? How can a sane person believe in their mystical powers?? And she's teaching my Boy! The Wife(tm) did point out that it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic (for example) - fine as long as they don't preach to the kids. But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children! your thoughts?
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things.
And what's the problem? Scientists believe in the Higgs existence. Some folks even think C# is a programming language. :rolleyes:
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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_Damian S_ wrote:
Given where you live, I can make assumptions about which particular school your kids might attend... and if that's the case, I can't believe you would be surprised that they hold such beliefs!! (Of course, if it's not *that* school, I take that all back.) That being said, how is it different to being taught by people who believe in AGW? People who believe that Sea Shepherd are a good organisation? etc
I think the point is more that the teacher's aid shouldn't use her position to spam her beliefs to the school community.
Josh Gray wrote:
I think the point is more that the teacher's aid shouldn't use her position to spam her beliefs to the school community.
Really? I didn't get that from reading it at all, although after going back and reading it again I can see how you might read it that way... I thought it was about "how could someone who is educated possibly believe in such a thing"...
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So it IS that school? ;-)
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Yes - that's where The Boy goes. So you can see that I'm not averse to exposing him to, erm, alternate beliefs (although if you understand the philosophy of the school you'll know that, unlike religious schools, they do NOT teach the kids anything about their beliefs. They do teach them weaving, knitting, sewing, how to make a cup of tea and eurhythmy (don't ask!) as well as the three Rs - and it allows them to stay being kids for longer than in the alternate schools. And (bless his cotton socks) he still comes home and wants to dress entirely in black, and go down the skate park, and not dress in tie-dye and go picking dandelions (not that there's anything wrong with that ...)
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Josh Gray wrote:
I think the point is more that the teacher's aid shouldn't use her position to spam her beliefs to the school community.
Really? I didn't get that from reading it at all, although after going back and reading it again I can see how you might read it that way... I thought it was about "how could someone who is educated possibly believe in such a thing"...
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_Damian S_ wrote:
thought it was about "how could someone who is educated possibly believe in such a thing"...
Absolutely. Sorry - it is a contextual thing. I should really have posted "How come people still believe in crop circles?"
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Yes - that's where The Boy goes. So you can see that I'm not averse to exposing him to, erm, alternate beliefs (although if you understand the philosophy of the school you'll know that, unlike religious schools, they do NOT teach the kids anything about their beliefs. They do teach them weaving, knitting, sewing, how to make a cup of tea and eurhythmy (don't ask!) as well as the three Rs - and it allows them to stay being kids for longer than in the alternate schools. And (bless his cotton socks) he still comes home and wants to dress entirely in black, and go down the skate park, and not dress in tie-dye and go picking dandelions (not that there's anything wrong with that ...)
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I know a bit about the school - I have a friend whose kids go there... When I lived around the corner I found out enough about the school to know that it wasn't what I wanted for my kids, but hey, each to their own!!
_Maxxx_ wrote:
wants to dress entirely in black, and go down the skate park
I wish my grass was emo, because then it would cut itself!!
_Maxxx_ wrote:
not dress in tie-dye and go picking dandelions (not that there's anything wrong with that ...)
New keyboard please!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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you are talking to someone who is about to go back into the classroom (as a teacher) in about three weeks... Yep - you're right. Clinically insane. Perhaps I'll start agreeing with DD about the moon landing by the time the Xmas hols come around :)
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
as a teacher
Why and for how long. What age and subject are you teaching, just trying to gauge when we should send around the guys with the white coats to lock you up. Do remember that because of PC you are not allowed to kick the little sod in the rear when they annoy you. I grew up in an era of corporal punishment, we were much more polite then.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Found out the other day that my son's teacher's assistant (let's call her Anne) has gone on hols for four weeks to the UK, so he has a substitute teacher for four weeks. Fair enough. The email informing us then went on to say that, if we wished to subscribe to Anne's email newsletter about crop circles, to contact her. The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things. I was both astonished and horrified. Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made? People making them have filmed themselves, and shown how it was done? How can a sane person believe in their mystical powers?? And she's teaching my Boy! The Wife(tm) did point out that it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic (for example) - fine as long as they don't preach to the kids. But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children! your thoughts?
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Christian Graus wrote:
or endear myself to her
She finds you endearing now? :sigh:
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No, but why make it worse ?
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
I trust you make spooky noises at every opportunity
Especially if that includes flashing your Wangaratta and going woo woooo!!
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How did you know that's what I do when she's watching TV ?
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
as a teacher
Why and for how long. What age and subject are you teaching, just trying to gauge when we should send around the guys with the white coats to lock you up. Do remember that because of PC you are not allowed to kick the little sod in the rear when they annoy you. I grew up in an era of corporal punishment, we were much more polite then.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Why
Because I have always loved teaching.
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
for how long
initialy 8 weeks - but hopefully inthe future full time
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
What age and subject are you teaching,
senior school (probably 14 through 18) Science and I.T.
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
because of PC you are not allowed to kick the little sod in the rear
Where can you kick them, then? Actually, because of PC, you can't get caught kicking the little sod in the rear :) I, too, grew up in the days when a good slap across the back of the legs (short trouser days) was sufficient to keep us more or less in line. And I have to say that my secondary school's strictness was the only thing that enabled a teenage me to progress academically - I was far more interested in other forms of biological research.
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I saw a crop circle (live) for the first time last week coming back from Harrogate to Manchester.
Two heads are better than one.
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Found out the other day that my son's teacher's assistant (let's call her Anne) has gone on hols for four weeks to the UK, so he has a substitute teacher for four weeks. Fair enough. The email informing us then went on to say that, if we wished to subscribe to Anne's email newsletter about crop circles, to contact her. The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things. I was both astonished and horrified. Surely Crop circles are completely proven to be man-made? People making them have filmed themselves, and shown how it was done? How can a sane person believe in their mystical powers?? And she's teaching my Boy! The Wife(tm) did point out that it's only like being taught by someone who's Catholic (for example) - fine as long as they don't preach to the kids. But I'm still kinda concerned that someone who (IMHO) is close to being certifiable is allowed to be in charge of children! your thoughts?
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What's actually the differency with Christian, Jew, Moslim, Hindu, Bhoedism... believes? People just want to believe in unexplainable things, despite science already provided an explanation. Granted, crop circles are weird, but IMHO not weirder then normal believe, just less socially accepted. :-D
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Why
Because I have always loved teaching.
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
for how long
initialy 8 weeks - but hopefully inthe future full time
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
What age and subject are you teaching,
senior school (probably 14 through 18) Science and I.T.
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
because of PC you are not allowed to kick the little sod in the rear
Where can you kick them, then? Actually, because of PC, you can't get caught kicking the little sod in the rear :) I, too, grew up in the days when a good slap across the back of the legs (short trouser days) was sufficient to keep us more or less in line. And I have to say that my secondary school's strictness was the only thing that enabled a teenage me to progress academically - I was far more interested in other forms of biological research.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
I was far more interested in other forms of biological research.
I went to a boys boarding school and spent a lot of time and energy avoiding biological research. I figure if I had to teach a me I'd not have made it to 15, I really was a little shit in those days, I like to think I have mellowed somewhat since then.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
The Wife(tm) tells me that she (Anne) is a crop circle 'fan' and believes in their healing powers, amongst other things.
And what's the problem? Scientists believe in the Higgs existence. Some folks even think C# is a programming language. :rolleyes:
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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_Damian S_ wrote:
I didn't say thick
No - but I feel that to believe in crop circles you MUST be thick.
___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Thanks. Thanks a lot. I DO believe in crop circles. They do exist, even if they obviously are the work of some pranksters.
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