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This will stop when someone does a cost-benefit analysis.

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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Sounds like a useful change. I wonder what name they will coin for the new currency.

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    TheyCallMeMrJames
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    What ever the name, the promise is a flavored replacement. The first to be released will likely be mint.

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      What ever the name, the promise is a flavored replacement. The first to be released will likely be mint.

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      AspDotNetDev
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      The new coin is going to be a peso candy?

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        The new coin is going to be a peso candy?

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        I wouldn't bank on it, but when they're pressed they do some Loonie things. (and, for the non-Canucks)

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        • T TheyCallMeMrJames

          I wouldn't bank on it, but when they're pressed they do some Loonie things. (and, for the non-Canucks)

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          Steve Mayfield
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          I'd like to put in my 2 cents worth, without the penny, we'll be nickel and dimed to death...

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            I'd like to put in my 2 cents worth, without the penny, we'll be nickel and dimed to death...

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            Tim Carmichael
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            Do you think anyone will ever pound some cents into the counterfeiters?

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            • S SimulationofSai

              Counterfeiters are not just people who want to get rich illegally. It can also be a rival nation(s) trying to undermine the economy of a rival. We've suffered so much because of this.

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              Yet when the central bank creates trillions of new Euros or pounds, its beneficial to the economy.

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              • T TheyCallMeMrJames

                Henry Minute wrote:

                we must fast be approaching the point where faking these is no longer economically viable

                Our Canadian penny is rumored to cost between 0.8 cents and 1.8 cents. Either way, it doesn't make much cents to keep making it, so our government is trying to have it discontinued.

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                Well, lets just say it cost a dollar to create a dollar. It really isn't counterproductive until it cost more than a dollar to create a dollar, because then you wouldn't be able to create enough dollars to pay for creating dollars.

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                  Do you think anyone will ever pound some cents into the counterfeiters?

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                  Tim Carmichael wrote:

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                  Counterfeit! To answer your question, I think you're wishing well but I fear there may not be the pot of gold you're looking for at the end of this double rainbow.

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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    Do you think anyone will ever pound some cents into the counterfeiters?

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    Not as long as they can debit their credits.

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                      Well, lets just say it cost a dollar to create a dollar. It really isn't counterproductive until it cost more than a dollar to create a dollar, because then you wouldn't be able to create enough dollars to pay for creating dollars.

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                      Not quite true - it already costs more to make US currency than the currency is worth. (cf.http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/economics/how-expensive-is-printing-money.aspx[^] In actual fact, it can be beneficial to the economy to have the cost of money production exceed the value of the money produced! Dontcha jerst lurve economists?

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                      • H Henry Minute

                        Fake £1 coin[^] numbers rise. What with the state of the economy and the rising cost of materials we must fast be approaching the point where faking these is no longer economically viable.

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                        Pierre Leclercq
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                        How about using a modern currency with many built-in security features? :rolleyes: See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_banknotes[^] (Might be even more cost effective to use virtual currencies)

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Oh I dunno - they can probably make them cheaper in China than the Royal Mint can. They certainly seem to make everything else for nothing...

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                          goodideadave
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                          Plus, in China they manufacture them from surplus lead, ship them to Britain, and kill two birds with one stone. They don't have to build the lead into toothpaste for export anymore. :)

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Not quite true - it already costs more to make US currency than the currency is worth. (cf.http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/economics/how-expensive-is-printing-money.aspx[^] In actual fact, it can be beneficial to the economy to have the cost of money production exceed the value of the money produced! Dontcha jerst lurve economists?

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                            Pierre Leclercq
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                            Interesting article, but I think the argument saying the fact currency is costly prevents government from being irresponsible seems a little fallacious. A very large chunk of currency transactions have been virtual for many years, and it does not look like the decisions made by governments to create (or not) new money is influenced that much by the cost (or lack of cost) of the currencies.

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                              Well, lets just say it cost a dollar to create a dollar. It really isn't counterproductive until it cost more than a dollar to create a dollar, because then you wouldn't be able to create enough dollars to pay for creating dollars.

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                              Pierre Leclercq
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                              It definitely is counterproductive to use a currency that costs more than its face value, but it does not make much sense to even use something that costs as much as face value. You'd then be back to the old times when gold was the currency and the amount of money you had was directly linked to the amount of material in your pocket.

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                              • H Henry Minute

                                Fake £1 coin[^] numbers rise. What with the state of the economy and the rising cost of materials we must fast be approaching the point where faking these is no longer economically viable.

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                                JimmyRopes
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                                Henry Minute wrote:

                                What with the state of the economy and the rising cost of materials we must fast be approaching the point where faking these is no longer economically viable.

                                They will just have to start making £2 coins. :-D

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                                • P Pierre Leclercq

                                  Interesting article, but I think the argument saying the fact currency is costly prevents government from being irresponsible seems a little fallacious. A very large chunk of currency transactions have been virtual for many years, and it does not look like the decisions made by governments to create (or not) new money is influenced that much by the cost (or lack of cost) of the currencies.

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                                  Luc Pattyn
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                                  Correct. Counterfeit currency is irrelevant in the macro-economic sense. The one way cost of coins is relevant is governments don't want people to disassemble and melt their coins and sell the metals at a profit, as a shortage of coins would harm the retail businesses. :)

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                                  • P Pierre Leclercq

                                    How about using a modern currency with many built-in security features? :rolleyes: See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_banknotes[^] (Might be even more cost effective to use virtual currencies)

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                                    Luc Pattyn
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                                    it doesn't fit the splendid isolation concept. :-D

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      Not quite true - it already costs more to make US currency than the currency is worth. (cf.http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/economics/how-expensive-is-printing-money.aspx[^] In actual fact, it can be beneficial to the economy to have the cost of money production exceed the value of the money produced! Dontcha jerst lurve economists?

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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      In actual fact, it can be beneficial to the economy to have the cost of money production exceed the value of the money produced! Dontcha jerst lurve economists?

                                      Well, that is because it keeps inflation in check, but almost all money these days are just digits on a computer. It cost virtually nothing to create 1, 100, a million, a trillion, or even a quintillion new dollars.

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                                      • T TheyCallMeMrJames

                                        Henry Minute wrote:

                                        we must fast be approaching the point where faking these is no longer economically viable

                                        Our Canadian penny is rumored to cost between 0.8 cents and 1.8 cents. Either way, it doesn't make much cents to keep making it, so our government is trying to have it discontinued.

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                                        _Damian S_
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                                        Here in the land downunder we haven't had 1 or 2 cent pieces in circulation for many years... The smallest coin is now 5 cents, and there's even a rumour that it will go by the wayside in the near future... Funnily enough, rounding only occurs for cash transactions - pay by card and the exact amount (to the cent) is used.

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          Yet when the central bank creates trillions of new Euros or pounds, its beneficial to the economy.

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                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          Yet when the central bank creates trillions of new Euros or pounds, its beneficial to the economy.

                                          Too bad the poster you're responding to is an Indian living in India.

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