Input devices
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand...
Visit a few pr0n sites and this will be easy to manage.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
As a left hand, I find that using the mouse with the right hand is still the best option for me; I can write while using the mouse. Using a pen/tablet would mean using it with the left hand and loosing the ability to do something useful with the other hand.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand...
Visit a few pr0n sites and this will be easy to manage.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
I dunno - I might be a little... ...distracted. :-D
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
For regular computing and gaming, I use a Logitech G5 Gaming Mouse[^] (The nifty-looking blue one) For graphics work, I have a Wacom Bamboo tablet[^] I've tried using the tablet for normal web browsing and such, but it just doesn't feel right. You have to hover the pen just above the pad to get the cursor to move, and that gets uncomfortable after a while. Trackballs, though... No way... I've tried them, and I feel like I'm playing Lunar Lander, the cursor swinging back and forth as I try to center it on a button.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
I've been using logitec trackballs for about 4 years now, it took me weeks to get used to it. This was mainly to prevent the ache caused by moving the mouse. I tried a graphics tablet, I kept getting "writer's cramp" with it, YMMV of course. I'm sticking with the trackball until something better comes along, though the are useless for games.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
I tried a Graphics Tablet, couldn't get on with it at all although it did have an A5 pad. Error 1. I got a really, really cheap one as I only wanted to see what it was all about. Crappy drivers. Error 2. I should have gotten a bigger desk so that I could have kept mouse/mousepad and tablet in convenient positions. As it was I couldn't get on with it well enough for everyday use, so it got shuffled away behind the monitor where it got forgotten and eventually disconnected.
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I've been using logitec trackballs for about 4 years now, it took me weeks to get used to it. This was mainly to prevent the ache caused by moving the mouse. I tried a graphics tablet, I kept getting "writer's cramp" with it, YMMV of course. I'm sticking with the trackball until something better comes along, though the are useless for games.
ragnaroknrol The Internet is For Porn[^]
Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.Keith Barrow wrote:
I'm sticking with the trackball until something better comes along,
How about one of these[^]. Independent review[^]. I think it might be a good thing but I don't have a spare £59 to find out.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Keith Barrow wrote:
I'm sticking with the trackball until something better comes along,
How about one of these[^]. Independent review[^]. I think it might be a good thing but I don't have a spare £59 to find out.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I've hated the notebook trackpads I've used, but this might be OK, but £59 is way too rich for my tastes. Plus, every time I used it there'd be the nagging voice reminding me the money went to Apple, and a sense of guilt would ensue (just like my iPhone). What I really want is a touchscreen PC with an integrated touchscreen keyboard a bit like a bigger, bent iPad (but with whatever software I want on it thank'ee very much). I think we may only be a few years/months till someone tries from something like this.
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For regular computing and gaming, I use a Logitech G5 Gaming Mouse[^] (The nifty-looking blue one) For graphics work, I have a Wacom Bamboo tablet[^] I've tried using the tablet for normal web browsing and such, but it just doesn't feel right. You have to hover the pen just above the pad to get the cursor to move, and that gets uncomfortable after a while. Trackballs, though... No way... I've tried them, and I feel like I'm playing Lunar Lander, the cursor swinging back and forth as I try to center it on a button.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Yeah, I moved to the Graphire tablet somewhere around 2000-2002. Love a lightweight, wireless, balless mouse (tablet has the cord) with no batteries. Then you still have the pen abilities for some photoshop stuff when needed. Nice device.
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As a left hand, I find that using the mouse with the right hand is still the best option for me; I can write while using the mouse. Using a pen/tablet would mean using it with the left hand and loosing the ability to do something useful with the other hand.
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Maximilien wrote:
the ability to do something useful with the other hand.
See previous post: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3552728/Re-Input-devices.aspx[^]
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
I have used the original Kensington Trackball for 20 years (really that long??? damn!). But I really like a "good" trackpad. I can use it with either hand and the hands stay closer to the keyboard. You can select by simply tapping on the pad, etc.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
You know, I don't know if you do any 3D graphics work.. but as an engineer I can't live without some form of 6DOF device like those from 3dconnexion. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but it's the best "input device" for that type of work, as it saves thousands of points clicks and drags a day. If you've haven't seen these things lately, it's worth a look just to know they exist. By the way, does the slight lag time in the average Wireless Mouse bother anyone else?
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
I've used logitech trackballs for at least 15 years. I recently purchaseda wireless trackball and I love it. I dont play any games so that's not really an issue for me.
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That's why I bought a tablet PC, it was cheaper and gave me a computer at the same time. I've tried digitizing pads and have seen people do magical things with them, but I'm a causal user, I don't spend 8+ hours a day drawing. So having the tablet screen to draw on with the stylus as needed has worked fairly well. Biggest problem has been the parallax problem between the image, glass, and pen tip. But zoom enough and that problem is reduced. Certainly beats trying to get digitizing pad and stylus orientation to match the screen. Drawing directly on the image has been far easier. But again, I don't do this as a living.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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You know, I don't know if you do any 3D graphics work.. but as an engineer I can't live without some form of 6DOF device like those from 3dconnexion. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but it's the best "input device" for that type of work, as it saves thousands of points clicks and drags a day. If you've haven't seen these things lately, it's worth a look just to know they exist. By the way, does the slight lag time in the average Wireless Mouse bother anyone else?
I actually had a project where the customer wanted us to support use of a 3dconnexion device for manipulating a 3D graph. One of my co-workers actually implemented it, but after a bit of practice it makes moving the graph around much easier.
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For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
OriginalGriff wrote:
if I could just learn to type with my left hand
A year or so I bought a Matias full-size keyboard with the one-hand-technology. This was quite nice up to about 5 characters, faster with one hand than to lift the right hand from the mouse. I am not so nice to keyboards, every now and then I trip over the cord and they crash to the floor. One day the Matias simply stopped working. SO if you buy one treat it nicely. A casual search seems to indicate that the $100 model is not to be found anymore, they want $600, sigh. Exactly like Andy Grove said about patents - "Sit on your ass and give everyone the finger". The Matias idea is not that earthshaking, he could probably license it for $10 or so and make a nice pile, it's worth that much. But nooo....
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