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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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    dybs
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    My wife's been eyeing this[^] since she saw one a couple years ago at a photography trade show. A bit pricey, but would sure be nice for all the detailed photoshop work.

    The shout of progress is not "Eureka!" it's "Strange... that's not what i expected". - peterchen

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?

      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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      Snowman58
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      I have used the original Kensington Trackball for 20 years (really that long??? damn!). But I really like a "good" trackpad. I can use it with either hand and the hands stay closer to the keyboard. You can select by simply tapping on the pad, etc.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?

        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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        neurobox
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        You know, I don't know if you do any 3D graphics work.. but as an engineer I can't live without some form of 6DOF device like those from 3dconnexion. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but it's the best "input device" for that type of work, as it saves thousands of points clicks and drags a day. If you've haven't seen these things lately, it's worth a look just to know they exist. By the way, does the slight lag time in the average Wireless Mouse bother anyone else?

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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          Eaverae
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          Yeah, I also swear to my trackball; I love to have an anchorpoint on my desk which I can hold on to in case I get overwhelmed by something cool on my screens. :)

          "My personality is not represented by my hometown."

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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            rriosarias
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            I've used logitech trackballs for at least 15 years. I recently purchaseda wireless trackball and I love it. I dont play any games so that's not really an issue for me.

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              My wife's been eyeing this[^] since she saw one a couple years ago at a photography trade show. A bit pricey, but would sure be nice for all the detailed photoshop work.

              The shout of progress is not "Eureka!" it's "Strange... that's not what i expected". - peterchen

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              BrainiacV
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              That's why I bought a tablet PC, it was cheaper and gave me a computer at the same time. I've tried digitizing pads and have seen people do magical things with them, but I'm a causal user, I don't spend 8+ hours a day drawing. So having the tablet screen to draw on with the stylus as needed has worked fairly well. Biggest problem has been the parallax problem between the image, glass, and pen tip. But zoom enough and that problem is reduced. Certainly beats trying to get digitizing pad and stylus orientation to match the screen. Drawing directly on the image has been far easier. But again, I don't do this as a living.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                TNCaver
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                The RollerMouse Pro[^] is what I've been wishing for, but I haven't worked up the courage to ask my boss to spend the $200 for it, even though I think it would ease the carpal tunnel symptoms I've been having lately.

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                  You know, I don't know if you do any 3D graphics work.. but as an engineer I can't live without some form of 6DOF device like those from 3dconnexion. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but it's the best "input device" for that type of work, as it saves thousands of points clicks and drags a day. If you've haven't seen these things lately, it's worth a look just to know they exist. By the way, does the slight lag time in the average Wireless Mouse bother anyone else?

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                  dybs
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                  I actually had a project where the customer wanted us to support use of a 3dconnexion device for manipulating a 3D graph. One of my co-workers actually implemented it, but after a bit of practice it makes moving the graph around much easier.

                  The shout of progress is not "Eureka!" it's "Strange... that's not what i expected". - peterchen

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    For years and years I have used Logitech trackballs: ever since I stopped swearing at mice and they turned them upside down in fact. Brilliant, no more falling off the mouse mat, no more mouse moving when you click a button. And I hated every laptop mouse pad with a passion. But this morning my new toy arrived - a graphics tablet and pen. I dunno, but I may not use my trackball for work again. Ok, so double clicking is a pain, but that will (hopefully) come with practice, and it would be horrible for games. Ok, the pad size is A6 and looks a bit small. And it does feel unnatural to be controlling a computer with a pen. But... But... It is so much easier to do any graphics work. Now, if I could just learn to type with my left hand... Anyone else tried these? Or are you all sticking to those nasty rodents?

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    if I could just learn to type with my left hand

                    A year or so I bought a Matias full-size keyboard with the one-hand-technology. This was quite nice up to about 5 characters, faster with one hand than to lift the right hand from the mouse. I am not so nice to keyboards, every now and then I trip over the cord and they crash to the floor. One day the Matias simply stopped working. SO if you buy one treat it nicely. A casual search seems to indicate that the $100 model is not to be found anymore, they want $600, sigh. Exactly like Andy Grove said about patents - "Sit on your ass and give everyone the finger". The Matias idea is not that earthshaking, he could probably license it for $10 or so and make a nice pile, it's worth that much. But nooo....

                    pg--az

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                      The RollerMouse Pro[^] is what I've been wishing for, but I haven't worked up the courage to ask my boss to spend the $200 for it, even though I think it would ease the carpal tunnel symptoms I've been having lately.

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                      TNCaver wrote:

                      carpal tunnel symptoms

                      "Synchronicity" is one of my favorite words, I even own a copy of Dean Radin's "The Conscious Universe". Just about 30 minutes ago I saw a video at CNN.com which you can find as roughly the second hit with the Google query (( Jeanne Moos Dog Chew )), Moos is the reporter. In the story the dog chews off the owner's toe but it saves his life because at the hospital they find his blood sugar was over 500. So reading your comment I recalled that carpal tunnel has a positive correlation with high blood sugar also, you probably knew that but like I say the time-coincidence motivated me to type this in.

                      pg--az

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                        TNCaver wrote:

                        carpal tunnel symptoms

                        "Synchronicity" is one of my favorite words, I even own a copy of Dean Radin's "The Conscious Universe". Just about 30 minutes ago I saw a video at CNN.com which you can find as roughly the second hit with the Google query (( Jeanne Moos Dog Chew )), Moos is the reporter. In the story the dog chews off the owner's toe but it saves his life because at the hospital they find his blood sugar was over 500. So reading your comment I recalled that carpal tunnel has a positive correlation with high blood sugar also, you probably knew that but like I say the time-coincidence motivated me to type this in.

                        pg--az

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                        TNCaver
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                        Sheesh... Synchronicity has been an active phenomenon for me lately, maybe it's time for a check-up. Not sure how I'd have high blood sugar, I don't eat sweets and only drink water and coffee (sans sugar), but ya never know. Thanks!

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