10 Things Microsoft Can Do to Make a Real Tablet Platform
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
I'm a fan of the Zune interface also, I imported a ZuneHD and love it. I believe it's referred to as "Metro UI" (?) I can see why some people would want fully fledged Windows on one, but I don't think that's the kind of device I'd be after. I quite like the look of this[^].
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Hire Apple engineers
Any volunteers? :laugh: Otherwise, good suggestions.
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Politics is the number one problem in big companies
I think this problem occurs everywhere.... :)
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
some with the design flair of Steve Jobs
Do you really think Steve Jobs does the designing of products?
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
some with the design flair of Steve Jobs
Do you really think Steve Jobs does the designing of products?
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
Steven J Jowett wrote:
Do you really think Steve Jobs does the designing of products?
No, I do not think he does anything directly. But he definitely has a say (may be final say) in whether a design is good and (ought to be pursued) or not.
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Steven J Jowett wrote:
Do you really think Steve Jobs does the designing of products?
No, I do not think he does anything directly. But he definitely has a say (may be final say) in whether a design is good and (ought to be pursued) or not.
Yeah, I can vouch for that. He's asked me a few times if it were a good idea and I was like, "dude, its your company and you have a proven track record, go for it, in fact, do what YOU think is right. This is not about Mustafa, this is about Steve Jobs." But every time I ask him if he can throw work my way, he just laughs and calls me a joker :(
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Hire Apple engineers
Couldn't agree less. Do not convert a Windows thing to a Mac thing. Windows is Windows, because it is Windows, and not Mac. Keep Windows, Windows, and do not make it a Mac. Do not redesign Windows into a Mac. Do not copy. Create your own. Looking at I.E and one can see where MS left its own design specifications and copied Mac. Look at Vista, and you see that it is a copy of Mac. Look at Win7, and you see much functionality removed from the interface to make it more like a Mac. When I use Windows, I expect it to be Windows when it boots, and not a Mac. If I wanted a Mac, I would buy a Mac. Next we will see Windows supporting only single mouse buttons, all in the name of "making it better". Its like sports cars. They charge you more to give you less options in the car. And it is becoming a trend, unfortunately. (Mac doesn't suck, but transforming Windows into a Mac sucks).
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Hire Apple engineers
Couldn't agree less. Do not convert a Windows thing to a Mac thing. Windows is Windows, because it is Windows, and not Mac. Keep Windows, Windows, and do not make it a Mac. Do not redesign Windows into a Mac. Do not copy. Create your own. Looking at I.E and one can see where MS left its own design specifications and copied Mac. Look at Vista, and you see that it is a copy of Mac. Look at Win7, and you see much functionality removed from the interface to make it more like a Mac. When I use Windows, I expect it to be Windows when it boots, and not a Mac. If I wanted a Mac, I would buy a Mac. Next we will see Windows supporting only single mouse buttons, all in the name of "making it better". Its like sports cars. They charge you more to give you less options in the car. And it is becoming a trend, unfortunately. (Mac doesn't suck, but transforming Windows into a Mac sucks).
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Mechanical wrote:
Do not convert a Windows thing to a Mac thing.
Hire Apple Engineers does not mean convert Windows to Mac :). Also we are talking about a Tablet here (hardware).
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
This requirements are very similar, to the 'Windows Phone 7' feature set. In other words make 'bigger' Windows Phone 7. (It also supports Silverlight).
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Hire Apple engineers
Well, I don't think so, Microsoft is not a Hardware company, I think they are fine with partners like HP, HTC etc... Because Nexus One and Droid X are as good as iPhone, which are not made by apple. so other companies are also producing better hardware devices. What they need is focus (like they did with Windows 7). They have insane amount resources and money, but Their legs are in too many places, so they cannot focus on everything. Looks like after loosing large market share now they are focused on 2 main things. Windows Phone 7 and Internet Explorer 9. I think both are going to be very good products.
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet.
AAAACCCCKKKKK! Yep, no toy OSs here. It does not make sense to have multiple OSs just because I have multiple devices. Now for a phone, unless they come up with some powerful hardware I do not expect Win7 on there, but I consider a phone a toy anyway. But I have no need for toy tablet that is limited in what it can run, limited in what ways it can browse the internet, limited by no plugins to the browser, limited.. Limited.. Limited.. If a person wants that, why not just stay with a phone? A tablet should be a real PC with full functionality. That is the only way it would be useful for me, otherwise it is just a toy with yet another OS to deal with along with limitations imposed by companies that think they know what is best for you.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet.
AAAACCCCKKKKK! Yep, no toy OSs here. It does not make sense to have multiple OSs just because I have multiple devices. Now for a phone, unless they come up with some powerful hardware I do not expect Win7 on there, but I consider a phone a toy anyway. But I have no need for toy tablet that is limited in what it can run, limited in what ways it can browse the internet, limited by no plugins to the browser, limited.. Limited.. Limited.. If a person wants that, why not just stay with a phone? A tablet should be a real PC with full functionality. That is the only way it would be useful for me, otherwise it is just a toy with yet another OS to deal with along with limitations imposed by companies that think they know what is best for you.
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Rocky Moore wrote:
A tablet should be a real PC with full functionality.
As I said, your concept of Tablet is a niche concept which is not same as majority of users. Web Browsing, media playing, e-book reading, voice/video chatting, with excellent battery life, light weight and reasonable screen size is what most people seem to want out of a tablet (which itself is a niche market).
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
They left out one: 0) Leave the hardware to people that know what they're doing.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Hire Apple engineers
Couldn't agree less. Do not convert a Windows thing to a Mac thing. Windows is Windows, because it is Windows, and not Mac. Keep Windows, Windows, and do not make it a Mac. Do not redesign Windows into a Mac. Do not copy. Create your own. Looking at I.E and one can see where MS left its own design specifications and copied Mac. Look at Vista, and you see that it is a copy of Mac. Look at Win7, and you see much functionality removed from the interface to make it more like a Mac. When I use Windows, I expect it to be Windows when it boots, and not a Mac. If I wanted a Mac, I would buy a Mac. Next we will see Windows supporting only single mouse buttons, all in the name of "making it better". Its like sports cars. They charge you more to give you less options in the car. And it is becoming a trend, unfortunately. (Mac doesn't suck, but transforming Windows into a Mac sucks).
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Well, this has been my complaint about PCs all the time. They used to be station wagons. Practical, up to most tasks but really excellent at nothing. This has changed a bit over the years, but still it is more a general purpose device and building it to be excellent in some way will still cost some money. Sports cars are specialized on one thing: Being fast. The rest does not matter. Building a device for just one purpose only may bring excellent results - for a few people. If you expect a product to be sold in only small numbers, it will be expensive. So what is the best way in the middle between a specialized and expensive sports car and the boring general purpose station wagon? Hitting just that right spot will decide about the success of the product.
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
I just read through this thread and overall I can understand and agree with most of the comments. I like that "Macallan" device, similar to the Zune/Windows Phone 7 interface. I have to wonder if this is just a port of those interefaces? My personal thought: the tablet should do natively the majority of the basics that I do throughout the day - email, web, basic typing (notes comments feedback) and reading docs. For those things that need more horsepower you really want your laptop/desktop machine. In those cases, give me a VPN connection to my main machine when I need a more sophisticated work environment but cannot access it directly. At the end of the day, a tablet or smartphone is never going to be a full-feature platform. But if it can help me manage that 80%-90% of basic tasks that I do while I am on the go, AND still give me access to my main work platform (could also be cloud services), then that would be sufficient.
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
...that way they can get applications for the MSFT-iPad and also for the phone platform as well.
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From http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/02/10-things-microsoft-can-do-to-make-a-real-tablet-platform/[^] Use the Zune interface I fully agree. The Zune interface does rock. Ignore Windows 7 I hear Rocky Moore screaming. As long as there is an efficient lightweight Tablet OS supporting SilverLight, it will rock on the Tablet. Create a skunkworks separate from the main company Politics is the number one problem in big companies. I think this is where MS will fail. Hire Apple engineers Could not agree more! Ideally, some with the design flair of Steve Jobs should be head of such a department. Make it cheap A good tablet for $400 will probably kill all the competition. But my hopes are pretty low that MS will come up with a good tablet in the near future. I think they already have the technology (SilverLight) which is well suited for Tablets and small devices.
Wait. How badly does Win 7 Starter that runs on most windows netbooks now run that it isnt being considered as a viable option on a tablet? I havent played with any netbooks that run anything above XP.
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I just read through this thread and overall I can understand and agree with most of the comments. I like that "Macallan" device, similar to the Zune/Windows Phone 7 interface. I have to wonder if this is just a port of those interefaces? My personal thought: the tablet should do natively the majority of the basics that I do throughout the day - email, web, basic typing (notes comments feedback) and reading docs. For those things that need more horsepower you really want your laptop/desktop machine. In those cases, give me a VPN connection to my main machine when I need a more sophisticated work environment but cannot access it directly. At the end of the day, a tablet or smartphone is never going to be a full-feature platform. But if it can help me manage that 80%-90% of basic tasks that I do while I am on the go, AND still give me access to my main work platform (could also be cloud services), then that would be sufficient.
I agree the tablet should have basic functionality with a tablet style interface and applications, it should be a lightweight device where you can have a few of them just laying around the house or in the car. Where it syncs up with the most powerfull platform around, be it the garage server, desktop, laptop or cloud. It should be able to connect with a more powerful machine that is hosting the main app, in short reinvent the bloody terminal! Oh and sunlight readable is a must!
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Wait. How badly does Win 7 Starter that runs on most windows netbooks now run that it isnt being considered as a viable option on a tablet? I havent played with any netbooks that run anything above XP.
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Rocky Moore wrote:
A tablet should be a real PC with full functionality.
As I said, your concept of Tablet is a niche concept which is not same as majority of users. Web Browsing, media playing, e-book reading, voice/video chatting, with excellent battery life, light weight and reasonable screen size is what most people seem to want out of a tablet (which itself is a niche market).
Yeah, I am just glad I will have some to choose from in the near future. May be a while though to find one that has touch and stylus.
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