Completely Denied Conspiracy
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Dust in the landers feet (Lack Thereof) Photos from two different missions hundres of miles from each other with the same background. The fact that given the sheer number of photos the astronauts would have to be taking one every 3 seconds, all perfect, all focussed, all centered on what they were trying to snap, in a clumsy spacegloved hand and a camera with no viewfinder. And the main one, they couldn't go back today with 40 years of Tech Improvement. Been to the moon? Pah!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
I can't figure out if you're taking the P or serious. The number of people who would have to be in the conspiracy is vast - forget the three astronauts for each of the manned missions that landed (Apollos 11 through 17, less 13) - add in the thousands of ground staff. No way could a secret that big be kept. It also raises the interesting question of why Apollo 13 failed. If it was all a con, why not put it down as a success, like all the others? Bemused! :suss:
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I can't figure out if you're taking the P or serious. The number of people who would have to be in the conspiracy is vast - forget the three astronauts for each of the manned missions that landed (Apollos 11 through 17, less 13) - add in the thousands of ground staff. No way could a secret that big be kept. It also raises the interesting question of why Apollo 13 failed. If it was all a con, why not put it down as a success, like all the others? Bemused! :suss:
Recreate the interest, and thus keep the funding.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
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Dust in the landers feet (Lack Thereof) Photos from two different missions hundres of miles from each other with the same background. The fact that given the sheer number of photos the astronauts would have to be taking one every 3 seconds, all perfect, all focussed, all centered on what they were trying to snap, in a clumsy spacegloved hand and a camera with no viewfinder. And the main one, they couldn't go back today with 40 years of Tech Improvement. Been to the moon? Pah!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
Why did the Russians not blow the whistle? Given it was faked it's highly unlikely that the USSR could not detect that no signals were coming from the moon. And given the state of the cold war it's highly unlikely they would not have shouted it to the skies. Unless of course CSS is right and there really is a super global conspiracy. :laugh:
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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Why did the Russians not blow the whistle? Given it was faked it's highly unlikely that the USSR could not detect that no signals were coming from the moon. And given the state of the cold war it's highly unlikely they would not have shouted it to the skies. Unless of course CSS is right and there really is a super global conspiracy. :laugh:
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
It's because all the chemicals they put in the water, also, this is one of the reasons they want to shut down the internet. Everything is starting to make sense now!!!
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
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C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
In response to theory number 9, they may well have had a camera that was remote controlled from the Earth (which seems pretty unlikely anyway), but that dosent explain how there was already a camera on the surface watching them land during the famous "One giant leap for mankind" moment. Also, there seems to be a lack of flying dust from the landing (unless they waited a while before getting out).
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In response to theory number 9, they may well have had a camera that was remote controlled from the Earth (which seems pretty unlikely anyway), but that dosent explain how there was already a camera on the surface watching them land during the famous "One giant leap for mankind" moment. Also, there seems to be a lack of flying dust from the landing (unless they waited a while before getting out).
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"The camera used to televise Neil Armstrong's first steps onto the lunar surface was mounted inside the base of the Apollo lander. It was located in a compartment called the Modular Equipment Storage Assembly, or MESA. This storage compartment contained much of the equipment and tools used by the astronauts on the Moon." How long do you think dust remains suspended in a vacuum?
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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In response to theory number 9, they may well have had a camera that was remote controlled from the Earth (which seems pretty unlikely anyway), but that dosent explain how there was already a camera on the surface watching them land during the famous "One giant leap for mankind" moment. Also, there seems to be a lack of flying dust from the landing (unless they waited a while before getting out).
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Lloyd Atkinson wrote:
Also, there seems to be a lack of flying dust from the landing (unless they waited a while before getting out).
Once they landed, there was a 7 hour delay before they left the capsule...your other point has been andwered elsewhere.
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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Dust in the landers feet (Lack Thereof) Photos from two different missions hundres of miles from each other with the same background. The fact that given the sheer number of photos the astronauts would have to be taking one every 3 seconds, all perfect, all focussed, all centered on what they were trying to snap, in a clumsy spacegloved hand and a camera with no viewfinder. And the main one, they couldn't go back today with 40 years of Tech Improvement. Been to the moon? Pah!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
Please tell me you're not serious. X|
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C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
As regards the light source/shadows (number 5) the sun is one light source. Isn't the earth another? Also, Mythbusters[^] looked at this and, as I recall, concluded that the way shadows are cast is influenced by the terrain as well as the light source.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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As regards the light source/shadows (number 5) the sun is one light source. Isn't the earth another? Also, Mythbusters[^] looked at this and, as I recall, concluded that the way shadows are cast is influenced by the terrain as well as the light source.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Mythbusters is not a source of scientific truth. They are a pair of grotesquely hirsuit special effects doods. Sure, nice guys and entertaining, but they lack the qualifications to make statements that a court would accept.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
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Please tell me you're not serious. X|
I am sceptical. There is enough doubt to ensure I keep an open mind. When the only source of proof is from the people who claim it to be true there must be room for conspiracy. Until a return mission by another nation shows proof I shall have my doubts. I don't believe in god simply because bronze age goatherders invented a story, so I won't fall into the faith in Nasa trap either.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
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I am sceptical. There is enough doubt to ensure I keep an open mind. When the only source of proof is from the people who claim it to be true there must be room for conspiracy. Until a return mission by another nation shows proof I shall have my doubts. I don't believe in god simply because bronze age goatherders invented a story, so I won't fall into the faith in Nasa trap either.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
What doubt? :confused: All of the 'problems' with the evidence for the moon landing on further examination just support the idea of a genuine event.
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I am sceptical. There is enough doubt to ensure I keep an open mind. When the only source of proof is from the people who claim it to be true there must be room for conspiracy. Until a return mission by another nation shows proof I shall have my doubts. I don't believe in god simply because bronze age goatherders invented a story, so I won't fall into the faith in Nasa trap either.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
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Mythbusters is not a source of scientific truth. They are a pair of grotesquely hirsuit special effects doods. Sure, nice guys and entertaining, but they lack the qualifications to make statements that a court would accept.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
but they lack the qualifications to make statements that a court would accept.
Well so do you but that doesn't usually stop you! In any case, still valid, none the less. To imagine the moon landings (which I sat up all night with my dad and watched) were faked is lunacy: it would be far too difficult a conspiracy to maintain. The only pity is that we have not been back.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Dalek Dave wrote:
so I won't fall into the faith in Nasa trap either.
But this is science, so it must be true.
It's time for a new signature.
Which part of it is science?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
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Dalek Dave wrote:
but they lack the qualifications to make statements that a court would accept.
Well so do you but that doesn't usually stop you! In any case, still valid, none the less. To imagine the moon landings (which I sat up all night with my dad and watched) were faked is lunacy: it would be far too difficult a conspiracy to maintain. The only pity is that we have not been back.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
But still my point remains, based on what evidence? I am not saying it didn't happen, I am saying there is enough doubt as to it being possible that until it is proved to a scientific standard then it is only on Nasa's say so. I hope it is true, but it would be bad science to accept it as truth as it is not repeatable or provable empirically, and there are enough holes in the theory for it to fail any acceptance test.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
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Dust in the landers feet (Lack Thereof) Photos from two different missions hundres of miles from each other with the same background. The fact that given the sheer number of photos the astronauts would have to be taking one every 3 seconds, all perfect, all focussed, all centered on what they were trying to snap, in a clumsy spacegloved hand and a camera with no viewfinder. And the main one, they couldn't go back today with 40 years of Tech Improvement. Been to the moon? Pah!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]
Stunned that this is necessary, but hey ho...[^]
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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Which part of it is science?
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Stunned that this is necessary, but hey ho...[^]
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
Still does not constitute Proof under scientific rules.
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Still does not constitute Proof under scientific rules.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Still does not constitute Proof under scientific rules.
Care to elaborate?
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.