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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Here, dust stays up a long time because it's only slightly denser than the air around it... In a vacuum, there's nothing pushing it up, so it falls down just as fast as, say, a person. Think of the old experiment... Drop a ball and a feather in normal air, and the feather floats down gently while the ball drops fast. Do it in a vacuum, and they both land at the same time.

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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    Ian Shlasko wrote:

    Drop a ball and a feather in normal air, and the feather floats down gently while the ball drops fast.

    That's because fairies like feathers, and support them during the fall.

    Ian Shlasko wrote:

    Do it in a vacuum, and they both land at the same time.

    That's because fairies die in a vacuum. Prove me wrong! (From some otherwise unmemorable film I saw years ago.)

    Bob Emmett Which? Race - Your monthly guide to genocide. Published by the New World Order Press.

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      Ian Shlasko wrote:

      Drop a ball and a feather in normal air, and the feather floats down gently while the ball drops fast.

      That's because fairies like feathers, and support them during the fall.

      Ian Shlasko wrote:

      Do it in a vacuum, and they both land at the same time.

      That's because fairies die in a vacuum. Prove me wrong! (From some otherwise unmemorable film I saw years ago.)

      Bob Emmett Which? Race - Your monthly guide to genocide. Published by the New World Order Press.

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      Ian Shlasko
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      :laugh:

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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      • D Dalek Dave

        I am sceptical. There is enough doubt to ensure I keep an open mind. When the only source of proof is from the people who claim it to be true there must be room for conspiracy. Until a return mission by another nation shows proof I shall have my doubts. I don't believe in god simply because bronze age goatherders invented a story, so I won't fall into the faith in Nasa trap either.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]

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        What about the Apollo 11 & 15 laser retro-reflectors? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment[^] If you have a powerful enough laser and telescope, you might be able to see the reflection. (and according to the article, the soviets sent up two reflectors themselves. So, if the landings were fake why wouldn't they say anything?) These reflectors are mostly used for range finding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Point_Observatory_Lunar_Laser-ranging_Operation[^]

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          What about the Apollo 11 & 15 laser retro-reflectors? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment[^] If you have a powerful enough laser and telescope, you might be able to see the reflection. (and according to the article, the soviets sent up two reflectors themselves. So, if the landings were fake why wouldn't they say anything?) These reflectors are mostly used for range finding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Point_Observatory_Lunar_Laser-ranging_Operation[^]

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          Dalek Dave
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          Oh gosh, I forgot about that, damn, only humans could have placed them, machines could never have done that.

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            Oh gosh, I forgot about that, damn, only humans could have placed them, machines could never have done that.

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            biojae
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            Well, it still shows that something landed on the moon. Even if it wasn't necessarily human, it still shows that we could get something up there in one working piece.

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            • D Dalek Dave

              I am sceptical. There is enough doubt to ensure I keep an open mind. When the only source of proof is from the people who claim it to be true there must be room for conspiracy. Until a return mission by another nation shows proof I shall have my doubts. I don't believe in god simply because bronze age goatherders invented a story, so I won't fall into the faith in Nasa trap either.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]

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              Helium 3 in the samples - unexpected and potentially extremely important.

              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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              • D Dalek Dave

                I am sceptical. There is enough doubt to ensure I keep an open mind. When the only source of proof is from the people who claim it to be true there must be room for conspiracy. Until a return mission by another nation shows proof I shall have my doubts. I don't believe in god simply because bronze age goatherders invented a story, so I won't fall into the faith in Nasa trap either.

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link http://www.bellcross.co.uk/CCC.htm[^]

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                It's not that difficult from a engineering point of view believe it or not, it's more a process and maangment issue to get all the engineering to come together plus the political support. Add to that satellite TV and, to paraphrase, it's not that great a leap. Finally think of all the stories where evidence has leaked and the conspiracy theory becomes even weaker. It is simply easier to have actually done it.

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                • M minnie mouse

                  i would of thought quite a while in such low gravity, but not long in a Hollywood Basementyour right.

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                  The acceleration of gravity on the moon is 1.6 m/s^2. The pertinent equation is s = 1/2 gt^2. So if the dust was throw a full kilometer high (I think most would have been blasted on low parabalic trajectories), it would take sqrt(1000/(1.6 /2)) = sqrt(1250) = 35 seconds for ALL the dust to have settled COMPLETELY. Considerably shorter than the time it would have taken them to get out of their seats and get to the hatch even if they'd done that, which they didn't.

                  Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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                    Just, y'know...cos...[^]

                    C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                    I find it quite sad that there are those who still hold to the belief that the moon landings were faked. It undermines the brave men and women who sacrificed so much for the sake of human exploration. It's so easy for armchair experts to deny evidence isn't it? If only they had the faith that these things are possible by man.

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                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      Drop a ball and a feather in normal air, and the feather floats down gently while the ball drops fast.

                      That's because fairies like feathers, and support them during the fall.

                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      Do it in a vacuum, and they both land at the same time.

                      That's because fairies die in a vacuum. Prove me wrong! (From some otherwise unmemorable film I saw years ago.)

                      Bob Emmett Which? Race - Your monthly guide to genocide. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                      What about inionising radiation, if that spelling is incorrect, must be the bourbon. If i was a dust paticle, which i am not by the way. I would stick to anyting of the opposite charge, i am thinking that there is probably a lot of ionising radiation on the moon. Possibly not underground in Hollywood, or maybe there is amongst the Wild Turkey ?

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        Drop a ball and a feather in normal air, and the feather floats down gently while the ball drops fast.

                        That's because fairies like feathers, and support them during the fall.

                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        Do it in a vacuum, and they both land at the same time.

                        That's because fairies die in a vacuum. Prove me wrong! (From some otherwise unmemorable film I saw years ago.)

                        Bob Emmett Which? Race - Your monthly guide to genocide. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                        Replace the air with cyanide gas.

                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                        • T Tim Craig

                          The acceleration of gravity on the moon is 1.6 m/s^2. The pertinent equation is s = 1/2 gt^2. So if the dust was throw a full kilometer high (I think most would have been blasted on low parabalic trajectories), it would take sqrt(1000/(1.6 /2)) = sqrt(1250) = 35 seconds for ALL the dust to have settled COMPLETELY. Considerably shorter than the time it would have taken them to get out of their seats and get to the hatch even if they'd done that, which they didn't.

                          Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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                          Have a look at this picture http://blackmaps.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/moon-landing.jpg[^] Whats that white thing on the dirt, a bed pan ? Also the moons not round or its bigger than we all thought ?

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                            Have a look at this picture http://blackmaps.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/moon-landing.jpg[^] Whats that white thing on the dirt, a bed pan ? Also the moons not round or its bigger than we all thought ?

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                            That's the little trap door where this lot[^] live!

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                              Replace the air with cyanide gas.

                              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                              Then it's 'Cyanara' little Cherry Blossom[^]. Heh, heh, heh!

                              Bob Emmett Which? Race - Your monthly guide to genocide. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                              • M minnie mouse

                                What about inionising radiation, if that spelling is incorrect, must be the bourbon. If i was a dust paticle, which i am not by the way. I would stick to anyting of the opposite charge, i am thinking that there is probably a lot of ionising radiation on the moon. Possibly not underground in Hollywood, or maybe there is amongst the Wild Turkey ?

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                                I'm Bob. Up a bit. Left a bit. Stop. That's Ian.

                                Bob Emmett Which? Race - Your monthly guide to genocide. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                                • M minnie mouse

                                  Have a look at this picture http://blackmaps.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/moon-landing.jpg[^] Whats that white thing on the dirt, a bed pan ? Also the moons not round or its bigger than we all thought ?

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                                  Tim Craig
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                                  minnie mouse wrote:

                                  Whats that white thing on the dirt, a bed pan ?

                                  I'd guess it's a piece of packing material from some equipment they unloaded. We just were environmentally sensitive enough in those days to pack out the trash. :omg:

                                  minnie mouse wrote:

                                  Also the moons not round or its bigger than we all thought ?

                                  And how much curvature do you think should be on the horizon? Or what's your point? You sound like an expert so back it up. :suss:

                                  Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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