I hope CSS doesn't join this thread.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Sounds like someone had an article to write so filled the space.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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I just read the article, and I find I agree with the author on exactly nothing. It almost looks like it's written with some sort of agenda, but I'll be damned if I know what it would be. Nor am I interested, for that matter. It strikes me as ever so slightly odd that someone so uninformed writes for the tech republic. //L
Media2r wrote:
I find I agree with the author on exactly nothing
I can see some of what he's saying, only one that I actually agree with though. Which is why I asked the question. I used to do a little dev work on a laptop many years ago and don't remember it as being that bad.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Laptop, wireless laser mouse and a decent pair of head phones and I can write code just about anywhere. That said I carried a laptop with a quarter the spec and twice the weight throughout most of college, so the weight issue isn't much to me and it's far better than what I had to deal with at one point. But I don't see any huge issues so long as it has decent specs for what you're using.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I do my work on a notebook with a dual core CPU, a nice and big display and even a NVIDIA graphics processor. Usually I also have a mouse with me, so there is not really much of a difference to a desktop PC, except that a desktop PC is not as mobile. I can pack together the notebook in a minute. The notebook is now two years old, so you can easily get a better one now. Developing on notebooks used to be a pain, but remembering the low-res 15'' CRTs at desktop PCs, it was a pain on any machine.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I prefer a desktop for development - full sized keyboard, decent sized monitor, real mouse. I use two mice concurrently: my Logitech Trackman and my Wacom Tablet (the later for graphics, mostly). Start carrying that lot about with a lappie and it becomes a bit pointless having it be portable in the first place!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I've been programming on a 14" laptop for the last 5+ years. Having to WFH is annoying, but mostly because having to disconnect a monitor from my desktop and carry it to where I'm working it a PITA. The only performance problems I've had were due to IT going to a 4 year life cycle and falling behind on VS bloat as a result.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Sounds like someone had an article to write so filled the space.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
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and then ran out of filler to put in it. Pagers?!?! Seriously?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Pagers did seem a little incongruous.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
It's true enough; it goes like this: ITEM | Performace Up-to-date desktop | :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: Up-to-date laptop | Same as a two-year-old desktop Netbook | Same as a five-year-old laptop And his comments on mobile phones are spot on. They're the worst invention since the guillotine, and cause a lot more suffering.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I find it easier by far far far. I can work from anywhere, home, office, library, beach. Whatever makes me most creative at the time. It takes up less space than desktop. If I need to travel, I don't need to take images, backups or otherwise, I have my real dev machine with me the whole time. Well, it works out well for me anyway.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I do all my development on a laptop (Intel Core i7) with laser mouse. I keep it very 'clean' - just dev tools etc. All the messy stuff for support and business is on the desktop or other laptops - I need to support multiple configurations.
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Well, using 14" HP was a bit painfull, but external 21" monitor on desk saved the world. Using 17" Dell Precision is good enough even without external display... Both were/are my primary development machines.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I have never owned a desktop machine, and have always worked on a laptop. I find the performance perfectly adequate as a dev. machine - it hits a 6 on the Win 7 Ultimate (32 bit) performance scale, except for gaming (5.2 - and I don't game anyway). The only essential extras are two smallish additional screens, one of which goes with me when I travel. With 4 gig RAM (all available) and 8 gig readyboost (exFAT). The main software I currently have installed is:- VS2005 Pro VS2008 Pro VS2010 Premium SQL server 2008 VMWare workstation (3 VMs) Virtual PC (1 VM for VS .net 1.1) XP mode for dodgy stuff Office 2007 Ultimate Office XP (Access and Excel only) Since I spend a lot of time working* in other people's offices, a desktop machine is just not practical. * Please note - the CP lounge counts as work :cool:
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
What's this guy's problem? I think he should start writing about farming, or something similar... actually, strike that, I guess there's too much technology in there, too for him.
Henry Minute wrote:
Ever try developing on a laptop?
I got two dev machines, both laptops and don't consider getting a desktop ever again. It's nonsense to say that lap tops are underpowered compared to desktops these days. The perks remain, however.
We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I have a 4-year old laptop that was top-of-the-line when I got it (or darn near) and it does well for me. It has a 17" 1900x1200 display, 2Gb RAM and a 128Mb video card. It runs on Win7 32bit (becuase I can't get 64 bit drivers for some hardware on it). I am running VS2010 and 2008. This was my workstation for 3 years (with two external displays attached) and it was a treat to work on, other than the PITA another posted mentioned when having to disconnect the displays. I bought a second hard drive tray and now use it to flip between two Win 7 images: one for video editing and one for development/writing.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I haven't read the article, but I just can't stand laptops for development. There is no such thing as a good laptop keyboard. I can live with one for limited dev on the run, but not for daily dev. 4GB RAM severely limits your access to VMs, so it is difficult to run more than one at a time. A docking station so you can quickly hook up a good keyboard, mouse and monitor would make a laptop usable, but I would much rather have a nice desktop for daily dev and a nice light laptop for travel. My current desktop only cost me about $400 (just the box) and a nice light laptop would add another $600. That would be much preferable to lugging around a larger powerful laptop...best of both worlds.
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There was a link in todays' Insider. 10 high-tech gadgets I can live without[^] that offer many opportunities to the conspiracy theorists amongst the membership. However I am posting this in relation to item 3 only and in particular the last sentence of that item. "Ever try developing on a laptop?". I have seen many of you posting that you have VSwhatever installed on your lappies. So, is doing dev work on a laptop as bad as the article indicates? Is it easier/harder, better/worse than developing using a desktop?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I definitely prefer a desktop to a laptop for development, but I don't think all laptops are bad for it. I have a 17" Dell Studio, and as long as it has a mouse connected, I can use it about as well as any desktop. And I've found it has enough processing power to build my VS projects quickly. There's no reason I couldn't use it daily for development, but desktops are just my personal preference.
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I have never owned a desktop machine, and have always worked on a laptop. I find the performance perfectly adequate as a dev. machine - it hits a 6 on the Win 7 Ultimate (32 bit) performance scale, except for gaming (5.2 - and I don't game anyway). The only essential extras are two smallish additional screens, one of which goes with me when I travel. With 4 gig RAM (all available) and 8 gig readyboost (exFAT). The main software I currently have installed is:- VS2005 Pro VS2008 Pro VS2010 Premium SQL server 2008 VMWare workstation (3 VMs) Virtual PC (1 VM for VS .net 1.1) XP mode for dodgy stuff Office 2007 Ultimate Office XP (Access and Excel only) Since I spend a lot of time working* in other people's offices, a desktop machine is just not practical. * Please note - the CP lounge counts as work :cool:
Chris C-B wrote:
it hits a 6 on the Win 7 Ultimate (32 bit) performance scale
Yeah, but my 5 year old desktop goes to 11. :laugh: (on the Henry scale, anyway)
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
