Fighting obsolescence..... - do you REALLY use a smart phone, and if so, how?
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It took me ten minutes to figure out how to call from my Nokia 5230
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
What do I use my smart phone for? Well... 1) Checking for and replying to emails 2) Managing my calender and tasks 3) Social networking stuff 4) Playing games 5) Browsing the web when I can't be bothered to wait 30 seconds to boot up the laptop 6) Finding out whats happening in the local area and finding new places 7) Reading reviews of products and checking prices before I buy 8) Listening to music 9) Downloading podcasts 10) Satellite navigation 11) Checking the weather 12) Reading news feeds 13) As a calculator Oh and of course making phone calls :) I'm not just reading out a list of apps here, I really do use my phone for all of the above.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Now, my only reason is that I don't want to spend an ADDITIONAL 20-30 bucks a month for a data plan, when I'm already paying over 50 just for a low-end voice/text plan...
That's a big chunk of my problem as well. The fact that I'm paying for 3 or more times as many minutes a month as I use isn't that big of a deal because the landline I didn't buy would have ended up costing that much even before long distance fees were added in. $30 for a data plan I see myself using infrequently and that doesn't come close to being able to replace even crappy small town cable internet is something else.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Verizon is ridiculously expensive, but they really do seem to be the only carrier with decent coverage in this area.
Same here. I guess hills and sky scrapers are all the same to them. :cool:
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
I'm king of in the same boat as you guys. However my thinking is this: Nearly all the smartphones out there have Wi-Fi built in. This means that you do not have to use your cell provider's data plan whenever you are w/in range of a wi-fi hotspot. So, why am I forced to buy said data plan just to have one of these phones? I have every intention to hold out until data plans become part of the normal charge to your cell bill, and at much less than $30/mo (I, too, am on VZW). I just think it's ridiculous that they force you to have X plan if you want Y phone, even if Y phone can avoid using X plan altogether. :mad:
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
I use my phone for: Email Web surfing Calendar Facebook Twitter Games Theatre listings News Weather Google Maps Texting Authenticator Alarm clock Camera Notes eBooks Music/podcasts/movies Phone calls My previous phone I could: play music text Alarm make phone calls So, no going back. EVER.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day. John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
I bought the original Droid (buy one, get one free) for about $200 a few months back and I've used it far more than I ever thought I would. Day to day uses are: - Web browser - Weather tracker - Email - Web based email - To Do list - Bill/Appointment Calender - Communications (Google Talk (for those with Data plans), SMS, Voice mail, etc.) - Videos - Managing my home network (Almost forgot this one) Weekly uses: - Phone calls (I prefer sending SMS or IMs in place of short phone calls. I rarely go over 100 minutes a month) - GPS/Navigation - Camera - USB Storage - Password Manager Less often (Monthly or less) - Media Collection Tracking (DVDs, Games, CDs, etc.) - Key ring tag manager - Movie Ticket Purchasing - Price checker - Bill Paying - Finding new places to go/eat/explore - Flash Light - Bubble Level - Games - eReader I use it for a few other things every now and then, but those are the main ones. It's so useful that I just recently plugged my computer back in after the move, and that was back in October '09. I typically use over 3 gigs of data a month strictly through my phone (I don't tether) but it's been upwards of 6 gigs on occasion. The only reason I'm finally plugging my computer back up now is there's some .Net projects I want to work on in my spare time. This is the first smart phone I've had and I don't see me giving it up any time soon. The best part about it is I'm only spending about $10 more a month than I was with my previous carrier but I get so much more use out of it. It more than pays for itself in my opinion.
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
I have a dumb phone because when I am away from PC, the last thing I need is to search the internet, answer emails, etc. I make and receive phone calls and once in a while (maybe once a week) I'll send a text message. Other than that, leave me alone when I'm driving, walking, watching TV, listening to music, etc.
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
I use mine for
- talking,
- Google Talk (via phone and PortablePidgin),
- taking pictures/video,
- GPS,
- Facebook,
- Text Messaging,
- checking G-Mail and POP3 mail,
- Weather,
- Listening to Music via Pandora,
- Evernote journaling,
- Monitoring my E-bay sales,
- Clock,
- Calendar,
- Star Gazing,
- tracking my diet,
- getting baseball scores,
- playing baseball video game,
- logging and tracking my running/jogging,
- watching/uploading YouTube videos.
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I'm king of in the same boat as you guys. However my thinking is this: Nearly all the smartphones out there have Wi-Fi built in. This means that you do not have to use your cell provider's data plan whenever you are w/in range of a wi-fi hotspot. So, why am I forced to buy said data plan just to have one of these phones? I have every intention to hold out until data plans become part of the normal charge to your cell bill, and at much less than $30/mo (I, too, am on VZW). I just think it's ridiculous that they force you to have X plan if you want Y phone, even if Y phone can avoid using X plan altogether. :mad:
<sarcasm> Well they need to do *something* to keep their revenue streams growing now that they've saturated the market for basic phone services and have sold texting plans to everyone they can expect to lure onto that bandwagon as well. Family plans are only making it worse for them since the total money they get from them is almost always less than what they would've with separate contracts for each phone. :doh: </sarcasm>
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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I have an iPhone and use it constantly for: - Email (triaging emergency emails, quick replies, and social chat only. Serious email on the desktop) - Taking, swapping and viewing pics. Far, far more than I realised I would - Reading the news (Aussie news, gadget news, weather news, PhysOrg - endless news!) - As an iPod while cycling - For directions while (often) lost via Google maps - For weather reports so I can determine how wet and potentially fried I will get while cycling - Occasionally I use the 'phone' function that I discoverd not long ago. I can talk to other people on my iPhone! Cool.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
But to do it You have to keep it with three fingers only, so talking to people is not serious feature. :laugh:
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
From the other view ... I don't even own a cel phone and I would not have it any other way. I've always considered the peace and quiet I get as a result as being a good thing. I've talked to my son - who is one of the constantly-connected generation - about this and I understand his viewpoint. He is a very mobile and unplanned / unscheduled person and is able to keep in contact with his friends for events / parties and such. I don't like surprises. It's not that I plan everything but I like the slower pace of the unconnected life.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
- Occasionally I use the 'phone' function that I discoverd not long ago. I can talk to other people on my iPhone! Cool.
Amazing isn't it??!!
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El Corazon wrote:
- Occasionally I use the 'phone' function that I discoverd not long ago. I can talk to other people on my iPhone! Cool.
you must have the older iPhone's, cause I heard they dropped that feature on the new model. Maybe not enough people used it.
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
Verizon (and really, all the wireless carriers) can charge their ridiculous fees because enough schmucks will pay them. If people realized that, for example, without an unlimited texting plan they are paying over $5,000 per MB for data transfer, they would revolt. I admit I am now part of the problem. After years of waiting in vain for the national rebellion to begin, I finally succumbed to the temptation when my "new-every-two" came around, and bought an HTC Eris when they dropped to $49 (it was actually free because of the new-every-two thing covered the price). So now, on top of the $75/month I pay my local telco for superfast DSL and a static IP (required by VPN, since their DNS issues non-routable IPs) for my home network, I pay another $60/month for the unlimited data plan required by our phones ($30*2 -- my wife has the same phone I do). That said, I love having internet access from nearly anywhere, anytime. The speed is great when I can connect to an open WiFi, and the continual availability of the 'net when I'm not is very handy. Having all that, plus a convenient camera/video for those "if only I had my camera with me" moments, a replacement for my Pocket PC, a phone, and the potential for a lot more I haven't realized yet is worth it. Or so I keep telling myself.
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So, I'm talking to a friend who needs to give me some source code... he doesn't want to email it, so I tell him to burn it to a CD. He gives me the :wtf: look, and asks if I have a USB drive. First I laugh, then I start to whimper. I realize I am stuck in a time warp - pre USB drive era. Now, I have 4 of them in my pack, it's not that I don't use them, it's just that I scared myself thinking 10 years ago. So..., I get CP's newsletter and see all of the flashy announcement of the Android app contest. Hmmm, sounds cool. I go out to Dell's site to look at their new Streak. Mind you, I am NOT a smart phone lover. In fact, unless it's a customer, I really don't like cellphones. But perhaps a smart phone would be useful, etc. :omg: $549 for a 5" display and the privilege of a long term contract? I'm guessing the other Android phones are priced accordingly, and I know about the iPhone. Seriously - do any of you techies actually USE your smart phone for something useful? Hell, I remember when the next big data driver for the wireless companies was video. So every phone now has a camera. The magazines I read indicate that laptops are sooo old school, and that the growth area is all in mobile apps on these little machines. So, I'm looking for some practical examples.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
I use to think "I'll never want a cell phone, I don't necessarily want to be that connected". Now I cannot live without my Android phone. I use it more then my home computer, and I use it every day what seems constantly. I have Samsung Vibrant and here is what I use it for: -I check traffic on Google maps on my way to and from work. -I take HD video, 720p, of my family, and of jobs sites if I need to take the info back to the office (I am an IT guy) -I can stream any pictures and video I take to any computer and some TVs for people to see. (The HD video and still pictures look GREAT!) -I listen to my MP3s from the phone (replaces my MP3 player, and I can listen to Pandora if I am in the mood for new, random music. -I can take a physical document, take a picture of it with my 5 MP camera, and make it into a PDF (looks just as good as any scanner) -I send/receive my personal (gmail) and business (Exchange) email. -I am a baseball fan, so I can LISTEN to ANY and EVERY MLB game using the "At Bat '10" application (it even lets me choose which teams radio team to listen to, home or away) -I use the heck out of the calendar, setting up what activities I do every day, and reminders are a life saver! -I can tell my Direct TV DVR to record a show I forgot about or just heard about from anywhere. -I can keep tabs on my ebay bids or items that I sell, and never need to worry about forgetting them cause my phone will let me know if there is any new activity -If I am at Best Buy and I see a product I know is over priced, I can scan the bar code, and find a better price locally or online -I can check for the closest gas station when I look down at my fuel gage and notice that it is on Empty! -If I am at a site where the Internet is down and I need to download a file to fix the situation, I can download it to my phone, connect to the internal wifi or USB on a PC, and transfer the file over. -I can RDP into my PC at home or a clients server. -I can download and read a book. These are just some of the things I do on a daily or weekly basis. there is more I do. This thing replaces my MP3 player, my point and shoot camera, my camcorder, my USB drive, and my cell phone. It does all these things, in a small package, and I can look up anything on the Internet at anytime, anywhere I wanted! If you have one, you will not be able to live without it!!!
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I'm king of in the same boat as you guys. However my thinking is this: Nearly all the smartphones out there have Wi-Fi built in. This means that you do not have to use your cell provider's data plan whenever you are w/in range of a wi-fi hotspot. So, why am I forced to buy said data plan just to have one of these phones? I have every intention to hold out until data plans become part of the normal charge to your cell bill, and at much less than $30/mo (I, too, am on VZW). I just think it's ridiculous that they force you to have X plan if you want Y phone, even if Y phone can avoid using X plan altogether. :mad:
I am with you. I wanted to have a smart phone but did no want to pay the $30/month that AT&$ ask gor just having one. So what I did is registered my phone in my account as a Motorola Razor (not smart phone) and use a Nokia Express Music (a very smart phone) When I needed the internet I used a wifi spot (found everywhere). It is not worth to have the internet unless you use the phone as a modem for your laptop when not at home as I do now (paying the $30)
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I am with you. I wanted to have a smart phone but did no want to pay the $30/month that AT&$ ask gor just having one. So what I did is registered my phone in my account as a Motorola Razor (not smart phone) and use a Nokia Express Music (a very smart phone) When I needed the internet I used a wifi spot (found everywhere). It is not worth to have the internet unless you use the phone as a modem for your laptop when not at home as I do now (paying the $30)
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interesting workaround. i am told, however, that VZW maps phone model to ESN and therefore when you activate they know what you have :( no fooling them. haven't tried working around it in this manner though.
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It is possible. But I used an old Razor phone when I changed the phone profile. They never question. Later I switch to Sprint to have a Android Hero (wonderful phone). Sprint has mucho better reception in my area than AT&T and was tired of their abuses.
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I have an iPhone and use it constantly for: - Email (triaging emergency emails, quick replies, and social chat only. Serious email on the desktop) - Taking, swapping and viewing pics. Far, far more than I realised I would - Reading the news (Aussie news, gadget news, weather news, PhysOrg - endless news!) - As an iPod while cycling - For directions while (often) lost via Google maps - For weather reports so I can determine how wet and potentially fried I will get while cycling - Occasionally I use the 'phone' function that I discoverd not long ago. I can talk to other people on my iPhone! Cool.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
weird is walking around Dunedin using the free wireless and using Skype holding the thing up so i can hear it properly, yes miss it DOES look like an oversized iphone Bryce
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your post starts saying "it is possible" in ref to me wondering about VZW, then you talk about being sick of AT&T... you did this on which carrier?
I don't know the carriers can tell which type of phone you use. I used the Nokia smart phone for almost a year without AT&T internet. However I was able to use the wireless interface where available. I did not like AT&T to tell me that, because I had a smart phone, I have to pay $30 extra.
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I'm king of in the same boat as you guys. However my thinking is this: Nearly all the smartphones out there have Wi-Fi built in. This means that you do not have to use your cell provider's data plan whenever you are w/in range of a wi-fi hotspot. So, why am I forced to buy said data plan just to have one of these phones? I have every intention to hold out until data plans become part of the normal charge to your cell bill, and at much less than $30/mo (I, too, am on VZW). I just think it's ridiculous that they force you to have X plan if you want Y phone, even if Y phone can avoid using X plan altogether. :mad: