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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    Take a look into micro finance systems - at least you are helping someone (generally women) who want to help themselves.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    Christian Graus
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    Yeah, I've heard of those. I have no idea where or how to donate to them ?

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    • C Christian Graus

      So, we donate to save the children. We saw them in a shopping centre, and, while we give a fair bit to World Vision, I was keen for us to support more than one group. So, I offered to give $200 a month, and they asked me which of three areas I wanted it to go. Then they suggested splitting it between all three. I said sure, and next thing I knew, I had to fill in three lots of paperwork. PITA. A few months later, I got an email, telling me that they had noted my desire to stop donating. So, I called and told them I had three accounts and I had closed none. Fast forward to today. I got two tax statements in the mail. I called to ask why I did not get three. The two I got were for two accounts that were never reopened, they had stayed closed. The missing one, the biggest one, probably came in a copy of their magazine, which I'd have thrown out ( as well as having requested them to not send it ). They are sending me another one, and reactivating my two accounts. My question is, all I am trying to do is give them money, how could it be so hard ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      baloneyman
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      My hat is off to you, sir. In my book Feed the Children is one of the better charities. They do have their problems. I would like to think the problem is due to overworked, underpaid employees. Probably not, but they are still the good guys. And you are too for supporting their work. I'm under the same idea, if I give $10, at least some of it is helping. Roy

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      • C Christian Graus

        So, we donate to save the children. We saw them in a shopping centre, and, while we give a fair bit to World Vision, I was keen for us to support more than one group. So, I offered to give $200 a month, and they asked me which of three areas I wanted it to go. Then they suggested splitting it between all three. I said sure, and next thing I knew, I had to fill in three lots of paperwork. PITA. A few months later, I got an email, telling me that they had noted my desire to stop donating. So, I called and told them I had three accounts and I had closed none. Fast forward to today. I got two tax statements in the mail. I called to ask why I did not get three. The two I got were for two accounts that were never reopened, they had stayed closed. The missing one, the biggest one, probably came in a copy of their magazine, which I'd have thrown out ( as well as having requested them to not send it ). They are sending me another one, and reactivating my two accounts. My question is, all I am trying to do is give them money, how could it be so hard ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        CaptainSeeSharp
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        So, we donate to save the children.

        Yes, of course you do. :suss:

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          So, we donate to save the children.

          Yes, of course you do. :suss:

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          Christian Graus
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          I understand how not being able to find gainful employment, you'd have trouble understanding the concept of charity. That's fine. Thankfully, society is able to carry a few dead weights like yourself without any long term loss.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          • B baloneyman

            My hat is off to you, sir. In my book Feed the Children is one of the better charities. They do have their problems. I would like to think the problem is due to overworked, underpaid employees. Probably not, but they are still the good guys. And you are too for supporting their work. I'm under the same idea, if I give $10, at least some of it is helping. Roy

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            Christian Graus
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            Exactly. I got the impression that the people who signed me up, did so b/c they got flown to Australia from the UK and were given accommodation and some food money. I didn't think they were real paid staff per se.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            • C Christian Graus

              So, we donate to save the children. We saw them in a shopping centre, and, while we give a fair bit to World Vision, I was keen for us to support more than one group. So, I offered to give $200 a month, and they asked me which of three areas I wanted it to go. Then they suggested splitting it between all three. I said sure, and next thing I knew, I had to fill in three lots of paperwork. PITA. A few months later, I got an email, telling me that they had noted my desire to stop donating. So, I called and told them I had three accounts and I had closed none. Fast forward to today. I got two tax statements in the mail. I called to ask why I did not get three. The two I got were for two accounts that were never reopened, they had stayed closed. The missing one, the biggest one, probably came in a copy of their magazine, which I'd have thrown out ( as well as having requested them to not send it ). They are sending me another one, and reactivating my two accounts. My question is, all I am trying to do is give them money, how could it be so hard ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              leppie
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              how could it be so hard ?

              Maybe they mispelt 'Slave the children' ;P

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              • Y Yayozama

                If you send me your money, I promise you to never send you anything back (as a matter of fact, you will never hear about me again in your life :laugh: )

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                NormDroid
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                :laugh: :laugh:

                Two heads are better than one.

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Never give to charity. For those that benefit have the lives of mediaeval kings... Nasty, Brutal and Short.

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                  NormDroid
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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Never give to charity.

                  Me neither, most of the money ends up in admin costs, charity begins at home.

                  Two heads are better than one.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Never give to charity. For those that benefit have the lives of mediaeval kings... Nasty, Brutal and Short.

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                    Eaverae
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                    I'm with CG on this one. Giving to charity is always more helpful than not giving ;) Every year (jan 1st) I switch charities, and I pick three new ones to give to.

                    "My personality is not represented by my hometown."

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      So, we donate to save the children. We saw them in a shopping centre, and, while we give a fair bit to World Vision, I was keen for us to support more than one group. So, I offered to give $200 a month, and they asked me which of three areas I wanted it to go. Then they suggested splitting it between all three. I said sure, and next thing I knew, I had to fill in three lots of paperwork. PITA. A few months later, I got an email, telling me that they had noted my desire to stop donating. So, I called and told them I had three accounts and I had closed none. Fast forward to today. I got two tax statements in the mail. I called to ask why I did not get three. The two I got were for two accounts that were never reopened, they had stayed closed. The missing one, the biggest one, probably came in a copy of their magazine, which I'd have thrown out ( as well as having requested them to not send it ). They are sending me another one, and reactivating my two accounts. My question is, all I am trying to do is give them money, how could it be so hard ?

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      ... Give it to Christian 'Nuff said.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Yeah, I believe it. The flip side is, when I was talking about joining a charity, so many people here said things like 'you know only 10% of the money helps people ?', and it occurred to me that, inefficient or not, making a donation helps more people than not making one.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        inefficient or not, making a donation helps more people than not making one.

                        Most people who work for almost any given charity do so without payment, but it would be impossible (and a lot more wasteful) to try to maintain a large charity without paid professionals, so I have no problem with helping to pay for them to run the business of the charity effectively.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          ... Give it to Christian 'Nuff said.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Chris C B
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                          ...'cos he'll break it. :laugh:

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            So, we donate to save the children. We saw them in a shopping centre, and, while we give a fair bit to World Vision, I was keen for us to support more than one group. So, I offered to give $200 a month, and they asked me which of three areas I wanted it to go. Then they suggested splitting it between all three. I said sure, and next thing I knew, I had to fill in three lots of paperwork. PITA. A few months later, I got an email, telling me that they had noted my desire to stop donating. So, I called and told them I had three accounts and I had closed none. Fast forward to today. I got two tax statements in the mail. I called to ask why I did not get three. The two I got were for two accounts that were never reopened, they had stayed closed. The missing one, the biggest one, probably came in a copy of their magazine, which I'd have thrown out ( as well as having requested them to not send it ). They are sending me another one, and reactivating my two accounts. My question is, all I am trying to do is give them money, how could it be so hard ?

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Lost User
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                            Did you miss that Q&A message saying "Plzzz sir, send code for charity business? It's urgent"? :laugh:

                            It's time for a new signature.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              So, we donate to save the children. We saw them in a shopping centre, and, while we give a fair bit to World Vision, I was keen for us to support more than one group. So, I offered to give $200 a month, and they asked me which of three areas I wanted it to go. Then they suggested splitting it between all three. I said sure, and next thing I knew, I had to fill in three lots of paperwork. PITA. A few months later, I got an email, telling me that they had noted my desire to stop donating. So, I called and told them I had three accounts and I had closed none. Fast forward to today. I got two tax statements in the mail. I called to ask why I did not get three. The two I got were for two accounts that were never reopened, they had stayed closed. The missing one, the biggest one, probably came in a copy of their magazine, which I'd have thrown out ( as well as having requested them to not send it ). They are sending me another one, and reactivating my two accounts. My question is, all I am trying to do is give them money, how could it be so hard ?

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Lost User
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              how could it be so hard ?

                              Its because you are a walking disaster area around which everything fucks up.

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              • M Mark_Wallace

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                inefficient or not, making a donation helps more people than not making one.

                                Most people who work for almost any given charity do so without payment, but it would be impossible (and a lot more wasteful) to try to maintain a large charity without paid professionals, so I have no problem with helping to pay for them to run the business of the charity effectively.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                CPallini
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                                "Oh, Mr.Graus, no less!" "Hey volunteer leave it to our best paid professional!" "Hey 'our best paid professional', make sure he'll get the magazine!" :)

                                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  So, we donate to save the children.

                                  Yes, of course you do. :suss:

                                  Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                  Why so much self hatred?

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    So, we donate to save the children. We saw them in a shopping centre, and, while we give a fair bit to World Vision, I was keen for us to support more than one group. So, I offered to give $200 a month, and they asked me which of three areas I wanted it to go. Then they suggested splitting it between all three. I said sure, and next thing I knew, I had to fill in three lots of paperwork. PITA. A few months later, I got an email, telling me that they had noted my desire to stop donating. So, I called and told them I had three accounts and I had closed none. Fast forward to today. I got two tax statements in the mail. I called to ask why I did not get three. The two I got were for two accounts that were never reopened, they had stayed closed. The missing one, the biggest one, probably came in a copy of their magazine, which I'd have thrown out ( as well as having requested them to not send it ). They are sending me another one, and reactivating my two accounts. My question is, all I am trying to do is give them money, how could it be so hard ?

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    charlieg
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                                    Some of the replies here are hilarious - leppie... Anyway, my rule for charities is check the pay for the top execs. I think the leader of the American Red Cross gets something like 500K/year. United Way gets 300K plus expenses - there was a big stink about this. I know it costs $$ to run a charity, but when expenses exceed 10%, it's become a scam. Good to know even a Canadian will give to charity ;), but all of us should be wise about it.

                                    Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783

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                                      Some of the replies here are hilarious - leppie... Anyway, my rule for charities is check the pay for the top execs. I think the leader of the American Red Cross gets something like 500K/year. United Way gets 300K plus expenses - there was a big stink about this. I know it costs $$ to run a charity, but when expenses exceed 10%, it's become a scam. Good to know even a Canadian will give to charity ;), but all of us should be wise about it.

                                      Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783

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                                      Lost User
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                                      charlieg wrote:

                                      Good to know even a Canadian will give to charity ;) , but all of us should be wise about it.

                                      Christian's a Taswegian, not a Canuck.

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                                        charlieg wrote:

                                        Good to know even a Canadian will give to charity ;) , but all of us should be wise about it.

                                        Christian's a Taswegian, not a Canuck.

                                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                        Cannuck and I'll thank you very much Master Mick. We are a bit touchy there.

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                                        • _ _Damian S_

                                          I know that there are a lot of so-called charities that are like that... Trick is to find one that isn't and donate to that one!! My choice is Camp Quality (clearly).

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          _Damian S_ wrote:

                                          I know that there are a lot of so-called charities that are like that... Trick is to find one that isn't and donate to that one!!

                                          Yup. There's an online database showing the percentage of money actually used for charity vs overhead for us charities; do you have something similar to vet where your money goes? IIRC the worst I've seen was about 70% overhead. X|

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