What do people think of the death penalty for Aimal Kasi?
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
Barbarism. -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
I remember several years ago there was some rich punk US kid in Singapore who got drunk and trashed a few parked cars. He was caught, went to trial, convicted and sentenced to some prison time and public caning. The US press was outraged and demanded more humane treatment. At the time I said, "Screw the little weasel, if you do the crime you have to pay the price, regardless of nationality." IMHO the same applies here. Mike Mullikin :beer:
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
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Barbarism. -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
So you're against the Death Penalty in general? I can respect that.... but I can't stomach the idea of showing leniency to a murderer for political reasons. What about the families of those murdered CIA agents?
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
"Pardoning will have a very healthy effect...", are they craz? So if we pardon him, we're supposed to believe that all of a sudden all these people that hate the US will be like-wise considerate and forgive us all our transgressions? A step towards peace, perhaps?? I seriously doubt that. Maybe though, the Pakistani gov't will look better to its own population. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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I remember several years ago there was some rich punk US kid in Singapore who got drunk and trashed a few parked cars. He was caught, went to trial, convicted and sentenced to some prison time and public caning. The US press was outraged and demanded more humane treatment. At the time I said, "Screw the little weasel, if you do the crime you have to pay the price, regardless of nationality." IMHO the same applies here. Mike Mullikin :beer:
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
I remember that. If I recall I remember thinking he deserved what he got. However, there are nations in this world where I believe the punishment doesn't really fit the crime... like cutting off of a hand for stealing, etc. When I try to apply those feelings to this case though, all I see is a murderer getting it his dues.
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Barbarism. -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
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"Pardoning will have a very healthy effect...", are they craz? So if we pardon him, we're supposed to believe that all of a sudden all these people that hate the US will be like-wise considerate and forgive us all our transgressions? A step towards peace, perhaps?? I seriously doubt that. Maybe though, the Pakistani gov't will look better to its own population. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
brianwelsch wrote: I seriously doubt that. I don't doubt it. If the US did it in the correct way, it could throw a whole lot of Muslim support into the US arena. The end effect of this could be less US servicemen dead on battle-fields. Also as you suggest the Parkistani Govt will look better to it's own population, and the US is making good use of the current Government. At a domestic level I can see why the US should not excuse his execution, but in International Politics the US needs to do something to look more approachable to the people of other countries. Of course if he had killed a member of my family I'd be saying execute him also. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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brianwelsch wrote: I seriously doubt that. I don't doubt it. If the US did it in the correct way, it could throw a whole lot of Muslim support into the US arena. The end effect of this could be less US servicemen dead on battle-fields. Also as you suggest the Parkistani Govt will look better to it's own population, and the US is making good use of the current Government. At a domestic level I can see why the US should not excuse his execution, but in International Politics the US needs to do something to look more approachable to the people of other countries. Of course if he had killed a member of my family I'd be saying execute him also. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Colin Davies wrote: If the US did it in the correct way, it could throw a whole lot of Muslim support into the US arena. The end effect of this could be less US servicemen dead on battle-fields. Of course, me being "the glass is half empty" kind of guy, I might suggest it would give other extremists the idea they can come over here and kill US government agents without serious retribution and therefore cause more deaths. Colin Davies wrote: in International Politics the US needs to do something to look more approachable to the people of other countries. I think we should place giant advertisements in all foreign newspapers saying "Don't kill our citizens and we'll listen to everything you have to say." ;P Mike Mullikin :beer:
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
If people think that two wrongs make a right then by all means go ahead and put him out of his misery... I really can't understand why a "civilised" nation as the US persists in doing this... it makes me sick.
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If people think that two wrongs make a right then by all means go ahead and put him out of his misery... I really can't understand why a "civilised" nation as the US persists in doing this... it makes me sick.
Stefan Pedersen wrote: If people think that two wrongs make a right then by all means go ahead and put him out of his misery... I really can't understand why a "civilised" nation as the US persists in doing this... it makes me sick. Just out of curiousity, what would be your recommended punishment for someone who killed two of your country's citizens? What if one of those citizens was your wife, or mother, or child?? Mike Mullikin :beer:
Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation. - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
I say instead of killing him, just give him a job as a VB developer. You know the saying, "if you have nothing serious to contribute..."? Well, I don't have anything serious to contribute.
Simon Walton
Sonork: 10024P
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So you're against the Death Penalty in general? I can respect that.... but I can't stomach the idea of showing leniency to a murderer for political reasons. What about the families of those murdered CIA agents?
Matt Philmon wrote: So you're against the Death Penalty in general? I can respect that.... but I can't stomach the idea of showing leniency to a murderer for political reasons. The US goverment is no fool, if they agree to show leniency to a murderer for political reasons, they must be thinking that they are getting a good deal (like using the military bases in the other country for the next 10 wars, etc.). Matt Philmon wrote: What about the families of those murdered CIA agents? The CIA should better prepare those families for such things, because it (the CIA) has done a lot more horrible crimes in other countries, they should expect being hit back once in a while.
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If people think that two wrongs make a right then by all means go ahead and put him out of his misery... I really can't understand why a "civilised" nation as the US persists in doing this... it makes me sick.
What do you propose? We reward him with free health-care, cable TV, access to a library and gym, a place to sleep, and 3 cooked meals? Oh, yeah, and periodic conjugal visits? That's what most our tough-as-nails criminals have to contend with. That's a fair exchange for the someones life isn't it? Maybe if I kill someone in your family, you'll be as kind as to put me out of my misery, so I won't have to dwell on the fact that I was such heartless callous bastard. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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I say instead of killing him, just give him a job as a VB developer. You know the saying, "if you have nothing serious to contribute..."? Well, I don't have anything serious to contribute.
Simon Walton
Sonork: 10024P
:-D or worse, from what I gather, a java developer! BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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If people think that two wrongs make a right then by all means go ahead and put him out of his misery... I really can't understand why a "civilised" nation as the US persists in doing this... it makes me sick.
Ok, so you're from Sweden. I can honestly say that Sweden is a country I know very little about. Other than what they say about the beautiful women...:rolleyes: Anyway, is the Death Penalty observed in Sweden? Here in the United States it's not observed in all States. My whole life I've always been against it... but that perception has changed over the past couple of years. At any rate, my question is really more about leniency to placate an angry Middle East, vs. "Justice" delivered without a political agenda... not really on whether the Death Penalty is humane or not. Thanks though for your opinions.
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:-D or worse, from what I gather, a java developer! BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
brianwelsch wrote: or worse, from what I gather, a java developer! Look, if you don't have anything serious to contribute... :-D
Simon Walton
Sonork: 10024P
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I ran across this article Pakistani political leaders ask U.S. to spare life of convicted killer Aimal Kasi[^] while perusing USAToday.com. The guy gunned down to guys in cold blood. I just don't see sparing his life to placate some angry Muslims... I'm sorry but I just don't. If the guy was an American and had done the same, I'd feel exactly the same.
Pardoning him bcos of some vague requests from religious clerics and paying for crime according to the laws of the country are two seperate issues. If you commit crime in a foreign country/country not of your origin, you pay for it according to their laws, period !! Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...
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Matt Philmon wrote: So you're against the Death Penalty in general? I can respect that.... but I can't stomach the idea of showing leniency to a murderer for political reasons. The US goverment is no fool, if they agree to show leniency to a murderer for political reasons, they must be thinking that they are getting a good deal (like using the military bases in the other country for the next 10 wars, etc.). Matt Philmon wrote: What about the families of those murdered CIA agents? The CIA should better prepare those families for such things, because it (the CIA) has done a lot more horrible crimes in other countries, they should expect being hit back once in a while.
You name the CIA as if it's a living, breathing, thing. Every individual in the CIA is just that, an individual. 2 murders are 2 murders, regardless of nationality OR what company they work for. Can I call all Muslims killers just because a few of them are crazy zealots? We have crazy religous zealots here in America too. My problem with your comment is how broad your scope is. We had a period of time where there were a rash of crazy killings in our own Postal System. However, except for a few jokes (bad ones) and the term "going postal" I certainly don't think all postal workers are deranged psychopaths.