Future C# Language Features announced
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Last Thursday, we announced a few future C# language features at OOPSLA 2002. The features are: * Generics * Iterators * Anonymous Delegates * Partial Types Note that these features are not in the version of VS that's current in Beta, VS "Everett". For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net
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Last Thursday, we announced a few future C# language features at OOPSLA 2002. The features are: * Generics * Iterators * Anonymous Delegates * Partial Types Note that these features are not in the version of VS that's current in Beta, VS "Everett". For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net
Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: * Generics * Iterators :-D :-D :-D I can't wait for these. Nick Parker
May your glass be ever full. May the roof over your head be always strong. And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing
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Last Thursday, we announced a few future C# language features at OOPSLA 2002. The features are: * Generics * Iterators * Anonymous Delegates * Partial Types Note that these features are not in the version of VS that's current in Beta, VS "Everett". For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net
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For those who doesnt know what the #$#@ Eric is talking about (like me :-O ) http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/csharp/learn/Future/faq.aspx[^] A nice short explanation. Cheers :) "I dont have a life, I have a program."
Thank goodness leppie...I didn't know either...
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Last Thursday, we announced a few future C# language features at OOPSLA 2002. The features are: * Generics * Iterators * Anonymous Delegates * Partial Types Note that these features are not in the version of VS that's current in Beta, VS "Everett". For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net
I thought the generics were old news. I'm interested to know what is meant by 'iterators' though - do we glean from this that there will be an STL like container collection in the next version as well ? Is there anywhere we can see some examples of the syntax of the new features ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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For those who doesnt know what the #$#@ Eric is talking about (like me :-O ) http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/csharp/learn/Future/faq.aspx[^] A nice short explanation. Cheers :) "I dont have a life, I have a program."
An iterator is a practical and innovative language construct based on similar features in research languages such as CLU, Sather, Icon, and more. Simply put, iterators make it easy for types to declare how the foreach statement will iterate over their elements. I'm more confused than I was before. Innovative ? Are we talking about something different to what the STL calls an iterator here ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Last Thursday, we announced a few future C# language features at OOPSLA 2002. The features are: * Generics * Iterators * Anonymous Delegates * Partial Types Note that these features are not in the version of VS that's current in Beta, VS "Everett". For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net
Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net Eric, the link there for demo files is broken. The powerpoint file downloads OK though. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net Eric, the link there for demo files is broken. The powerpoint file downloads OK though. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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I thought the generics were old news. I'm interested to know what is meant by 'iterators' though - do we glean from this that there will be an STL like container collection in the next version as well ? Is there anywhere we can see some examples of the syntax of the new features ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Iterators are a way to make writing foreach-able classes easier. It's fairly easy currently to do this for something like an array, but doing it for a tree requires some gymnastics. With iterators, the compiler does the gymnastics for you.
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Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net Eric, the link there for demo files is broken. The powerpoint file downloads OK though. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
I apologize for that. A file was supposed to get copied to the website, and it didn't. It should be fixed presently...
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I apologize for that. A file was supposed to get copied to the website, and it didn't. It should be fixed presently...
Well, you know, I'd rant and rave about Microsoft letting me down again, but last time I checked, I was not perfect either ( although damn close, let me add )...... Thanks - I'll check again later today. I'm really excited about this stuff, I must say, especially how verbose the generic syntax isn't. ;P Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Well, you know, I'd rant and rave about Microsoft letting me down again, but last time I checked, I was not perfect either ( although damn close, let me add )...... Thanks - I'll check again later today. I'm really excited about this stuff, I must say, especially how verbose the generic syntax isn't. ;P Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
It's fixed now.
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Last Thursday, we announced a few future C# language features at OOPSLA 2002. The features are: * Generics * Iterators * Anonymous Delegates * Partial Types Note that these features are not in the version of VS that's current in Beta, VS "Everett". For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net
Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: Anonymous Delegates I read elsewhere about Anonymous Methods instead. Are they one and the same or is there a subtle difference? ASP.NET can never fail as working with it is like fitting bras to supermodels - it's one pleasure after the next - David Wulff
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Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: Anonymous Delegates I read elsewhere about Anonymous Methods instead. Are they one and the same or is there a subtle difference? ASP.NET can never fail as working with it is like fitting bras to supermodels - it's one pleasure after the next - David Wulff
Ok scratch that, just learnt that it's "Anonymous methods via delegates" ASP.NET can never fail as working with it is like fitting bras to supermodels - it's one pleasure after the next - David Wulff
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Last Thursday, we announced a few future C# language features at OOPSLA 2002. The features are: * Generics * Iterators * Anonymous Delegates * Partial Types Note that these features are not in the version of VS that's current in Beta, VS "Everett". For more information - and to sign up to receive email when we have specs ready - visit http://www.csharp.net
Without wanting to start a VB vs VC# troll, is this the split between these 2 languages that I've been hearing about from your South African colleagues? Either way, you guys are doing great work. Cheers, Simon "VB.NET ... the STD of choice", me, internal company memo
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Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: Anonymous Delegates I read elsewhere about Anonymous Methods instead. Are they one and the same or is there a subtle difference? ASP.NET can never fail as working with it is like fitting bras to supermodels - it's one pleasure after the next - David Wulff
Anonymous Methods is the proper term - I made a mistake in my posting.
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Without wanting to start a VB vs VC# troll, is this the split between these 2 languages that I've been hearing about from your South African colleagues? Either way, you guys are doing great work. Cheers, Simon "VB.NET ... the STD of choice", me, internal company memo
C# and VB .NET are targetted at slightly different audiences, and that changes the stack rank of features. Many features are interesting to both groups, but the importance of the feature may be high in one group and low in another. Each of the product groups decides where to devote their resources for a given release. I don't know what the plans are for VB .NET WRT generics. I do know that generics have always been one of the top requests from C# customers, and that's why we're doing them.
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C# and VB .NET are targetted at slightly different audiences, and that changes the stack rank of features. Many features are interesting to both groups, but the importance of the feature may be high in one group and low in another. Each of the product groups decides where to devote their resources for a given release. I don't know what the plans are for VB .NET WRT generics. I do know that generics have always been one of the top requests from C# customers, and that's why we're doing them.
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Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: * Generics * Iterators :-D :-D :-D I can't wait for these. Nick Parker
May your glass be ever full. May the roof over your head be always strong. And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing
If you really can't wait you could try Envision! (Eiffel .NET for Visual Studio .NET) http://www.eiffel.com. There is a free non-commercial version.:) Kevin