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  • L Lost User

    It wouldn't be in that folder if it were "real"

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    leppie
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    harold aptroot wrote:

    It wouldn't be in that folder if it were "real"

    True, will be in SYSTEM32 or equivalent. Also, only 22KB in size on Windows 7 here.

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    • L leppie

      lsass is a Windows service process launcher IIRC. Try verify the file to see if it indeed comes from Microsoft. If so, you just made an idiot of yourself ;P

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      code_junkie
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      As stated in the OP: "installed a virus on my computer located in: C:\documents and settings\(User Dir)\application data\systemproc" Not my system32 directory. I've been programming for 30 years now, I know a virus when I see one :omg:

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        As stated in the OP: "installed a virus on my computer located in: C:\documents and settings\(User Dir)\application data\systemproc" Not my system32 directory. I've been programming for 30 years now, I know a virus when I see one :omg:

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        leppie
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        code_junkie wrote:

        I've been programming for 30 years now, I know a virus when I see one

        While I do believe you, I just had to make sure ;P So, I expect you to do what I do, clean the virus up without a stinking anti-virus :)

        xacc.ide
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        • L leppie

          code_junkie wrote:

          I've been programming for 30 years now, I know a virus when I see one

          While I do believe you, I just had to make sure ;P So, I expect you to do what I do, clean the virus up without a stinking anti-virus :)

          xacc.ide
          IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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          code_junkie
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          LOL, It's my fault. I don't run anti-virus, never have never will. This is the first virus to get to my computer in quiet some time. It's a pain to clean them by hand but I enjoy finding out how the hackers are operating these days.

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          • C code_junkie

            LOL, It's my fault. I don't run anti-virus, never have never will. This is the first virus to get to my computer in quiet some time. It's a pain to clean them by hand but I enjoy finding out how the hackers are operating these days.

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            leppie
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            code_junkie wrote:

            LOL, It's my fault. I don't run anti-virus, never have never will. This is the first virus to get to my computer in quiet some time. It's a pain to clean them by hand but I enjoy finding out how the hackers are operating these days.

            Sounds just like me, I already like you! :)

            xacc.ide
            IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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            • C code_junkie

              As stated in the OP: "installed a virus on my computer located in: C:\documents and settings\(User Dir)\application data\systemproc" Not my system32 directory. I've been programming for 30 years now, I know a virus when I see one :omg:

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              Luc Pattyn
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              code_junkie wrote:

              I know a virus when I see one

              and yet you insist on using IE? :)

              Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

              Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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              • A Ankur m

                After seeing your post, I tried it too. No virus for me as well.

                ..Go Green..

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                Ankurm/ wrote:

                After seeing your post, I tried it too.

                If he told you traffic was dangerous would you go play in the road?

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                  The link in the daily news letter: 7 Interface Design Techniques to Simplify and De-clutter Your Interfaces For your interfaces, which are cluttered. installed a virus on my computer located in: C:\documents and settings\\application data\systemproc called lsass.exe. It's size is 78 KB. It also set itself to start in the registry under: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run I just started looking into it and I'm not sure if it's anywhere else. I just went to the web page and didn't click on anything but it got in.

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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  How do you know the virus came from that site and didn't just decided to manifest when you visited that site (i.e., you got it somewhere else and it just looks like it came from there)?

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                  • L leppie

                    code_junkie wrote:

                    I've been programming for 30 years now, I know a virus when I see one

                    While I do believe you, I just had to make sure ;P So, I expect you to do what I do, clean the virus up without a stinking anti-virus :)

                    xacc.ide
                    IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
                    ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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                    LloydA111
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                    leppie wrote:

                    So, I expect you to do what I do, clean the virus up without a stinking anti-virus

                    On the rare occasion that I have got a virus, I have often just reinstalled the OS... I just don't take the risk that Anti-virus didn't totally clear the virus up!


                    "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                    • L leppie

                      code_junkie wrote:

                      LOL, It's my fault. I don't run anti-virus, never have never will. This is the first virus to get to my computer in quiet some time. It's a pain to clean them by hand but I enjoy finding out how the hackers are operating these days.

                      Sounds just like me, I already like you! :)

                      xacc.ide
                      IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
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                      Mladen Jankovic
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                      Now, go and get a room, you two.

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                        The link in the daily news letter: 7 Interface Design Techniques to Simplify and De-clutter Your Interfaces For your interfaces, which are cluttered. installed a virus on my computer located in: C:\documents and settings\\application data\systemproc called lsass.exe. It's size is 78 KB. It also set itself to start in the registry under: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run I just started looking into it and I'm not sure if it's anywhere else. I just went to the web page and didn't click on anything but it got in.

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                        Pualee
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                        I've gotten nasty viruses from links on this site in the past. Links from which other people did not. I do not think it was the site, but possibly the random advertisements in the site... explaining why I got it an others did not.

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                        • L Luc Pattyn

                          code_junkie wrote:

                          I know a virus when I see one

                          and yet you insist on using IE? :)

                          Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                          Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                          code_junkie
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                          LOL, I use IE because I refuse to write code for every new browser that comes out. Heck, keeping up with Microsoft is a full time job in itself. Then add in Firefox, Safari and Chrome, there just isn't enough time in the day X| .

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            How do you know the virus came from that site and didn't just decided to manifest when you visited that site (i.e., you got it somewhere else and it just looks like it came from there)?

                            [Forum Guidelines]

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                            code_junkie
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                            Actually I think it came from an infected Advertisment server...

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                              The link in the daily news letter: 7 Interface Design Techniques to Simplify and De-clutter Your Interfaces For your interfaces, which are cluttered. installed a virus on my computer located in: C:\documents and settings\\application data\systemproc called lsass.exe. It's size is 78 KB. It also set itself to start in the registry under: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer\Run I just started looking into it and I'm not sure if it's anywhere else. I just went to the web page and didn't click on anything but it got in.

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                              Rick York
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                              The last time I got a virus I wrote a little explanation about it here. That is, I described what I did to squash it. It acted quite a bit like what you are describing. It also started a guard thread to continually restart it and replace its registry entries. I stopped it by starting up in safe mode and deleting all traces of it. Then I copied a zero-byte file to where it made its directory and set attributes to be read-only, hidden, system. That thing won't be back and I know it has tried. It was one of the only MSN-IM virii I have ever heard of. You might want to copy a file to C:\documents and settings\(user)\application data\ named systemproc and setting to have attributes of RHS just to make sure it has a harder time coming back. I did.

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                              • R Rick York

                                The last time I got a virus I wrote a little explanation about it here. That is, I described what I did to squash it. It acted quite a bit like what you are describing. It also started a guard thread to continually restart it and replace its registry entries. I stopped it by starting up in safe mode and deleting all traces of it. Then I copied a zero-byte file to where it made its directory and set attributes to be read-only, hidden, system. That thing won't be back and I know it has tried. It was one of the only MSN-IM virii I have ever heard of. You might want to copy a file to C:\documents and settings\(user)\application data\ named systemproc and setting to have attributes of RHS just to make sure it has a harder time coming back. I did.

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                                code_junkie
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                                That's a really great idea! Thanks! :-D

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                                • C code_junkie

                                  Actually I think it came from an infected Advertisment server...

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                                  AspDotNetDev
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                                  I think you missed the point. What if it didn't come from the website or the ads on the website? It may have come from somewhere else and only showed up when you went to that website. It could have come from, for example, the website you visited before that website.

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    I think you missed the point. What if it didn't come from the website or the ads on the website? It may have come from somewhere else and only showed up when you went to that website. It could have come from, for example, the website you visited before that website.

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                                    code_junkie
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                                    I did note the file and directory creation times matched with the site visit. I keep my computer very clean and use several methods to keep track of the health of my computer. Always good to be skeptical though :thumbsup:

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                                    • P Pualee

                                      I've gotten nasty viruses from links on this site in the past. Links from which other people did not. I do not think it was the site, but possibly the random advertisements in the site... explaining why I got it an others did not.

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      Pualee wrote:

                                      I've gotten nasty viruses from links on this site in the past

                                      Do you mean links to other sites that members have posted on CodeProject.com? That I can understand, and it's not something we can control. However, all our ads are served from either our own ad serving system, or from reputatable advertisers (eg Microsoft) using standard ad delivery networks (Atlas etc). The chances of a virus getting through either of these is extremely, extremely low.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      • C code_junkie

                                        LOL, It's my fault. I don't run anti-virus, never have never will. This is the first virus to get to my computer in quiet some time. It's a pain to clean them by hand but I enjoy finding out how the hackers are operating these days.

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        Previously virus writers wrote viruses that were intended to be found. That's changed. How do you know you're being infected when the virus writers are getting smarter and smarter about hiding their presence?

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Previously virus writers wrote viruses that were intended to be found. That's changed. How do you know you're being infected when the virus writers are getting smarter and smarter about hiding their presence?

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          code_junkie
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                                          Ultimately there is no way to know for sure. That's my big issue with anti-virus, it only scans for viruses it knows about. "Man in the middle" attacks are completly undetectable and don't even reside on your computer. I currently have to rely on off line scans of my drives, but even with that a malicious program could pop in, get what it's looking for, and be gone in seconds without ever residing on the hard drive. True security is an illusion.

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