What happens if you get scared half to death twice? [modified]
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Elastic limit, plastic limit.
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So an elastic limit of up to 50% and you would recover from the first scaring resulting in 0.5? A limit of over 50% and you would be down to 0.25?
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Interesting that yourself and OriginalGriff both agree that life is a binary state but based on that your conclusions are opposed, dead v's alive.
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Yeah - I'm a "glass twice as big as it needs to be" type of guy.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
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Yeah - I'm a "glass twice as big as it needs to be" type of guy.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
"glass twice as big as it needs to be"
hah, I like that and might just steal it and pass it off as my own!!
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Can you help settle a debate between myself and a colleague? Given the wording in the title, how do you interprit it, what is your conclusion and how do you reach it? I won't reveal my arguement yet so as to maintain impartiality. EDIT: Well the first few replies back up my answer of 25% alive, looks like it will be free coffee for me if no-one can disprove this?!
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modified on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:30 AM
Stoopid, meaningless question. What is half dead? How much more dead do you have to be so that you couldn't come back from it? 1%? 5% Anyway, the answer is infinite since you recover once, you can recover innumerable times.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
"glass twice as big as it needs to be"
hah, I like that and might just steal it and pass it off as my own!!
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I've had that a few times.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
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Stoopid, meaningless question. What is half dead? How much more dead do you have to be so that you couldn't come back from it? 1%? 5% Anyway, the answer is infinite since you recover once, you can recover innumerable times.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Indeed half-dead is not really tangible, just a turn of phrase. Though it does prompt interesting debate as people interpret it differently and apply different logic. Your conclusion for example allows for recovery whereas others don't.
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I'm not convinced: surely life is a binary state - it's there or it's not. So, using integer arithmetic,
int life = 1;
life *= (int)0.5;would give
life == 0i.e. death.Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
OriginalGriff wrote:
I'm not convinced: surely life is a binary state - it's there or it's not.
Not to take away from the humor of the subject, but, for example, I found out yesterday that this 19 year old kid got in a car accident and ended up with broken ribs, a shattered knee and hip, and broken wrist, all of which requires several surgeries, etc. (He wasn't drunk, he was actually swerving out of the way in panic of someone who was passing illegally in the oncoming lane and smacked into a bridge). So, I don't know. I think life is definitely more than a binary state--certainly the subjective experience is more than a two state experience, and even objectively, I would have to say that this poor kid (as an example) is definitely not in the "fullest" of life at the moment. Marc
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Indeed half-dead is not really tangible, just a turn of phrase. Though it does prompt interesting debate as people interpret it differently and apply different logic. Your conclusion for example allows for recovery whereas others don't.
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influenz wrote:
interesting debate
Really?
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The presumption of recovery is a big one but I like the state of being argument, allot of this is in the initial interpretation. Yours is a third argument though as my colleague is in the "you're dead" camp!
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influenz wrote:
Yours is a third argument
:jig: Then I have succeeded! :-D
influenz wrote:
The presumption of recovery is a big one
Well, the presumption of recovery is based on the ability to change state. For example, I would assume that one is alive when scared half to death, otherwise, how would you experience being scared half to death? Therefore, why should there be any presumption about recovery (returning back to full life)? In other words, if you can go from full to 1/2, I would start with the presumption that you can also go back from 1/2 to full. :) There's other, more obscure arguments I could make, that being scared half to death is a very transitory experience rather than having any permanence to it, as would require to be scared half to death, then in that state, scared half to death again. :) Marc
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influenz wrote:
interesting debate
Really?
viaducting wrote:
interesting debate
one way to kill (or half kill!) a few minutes.. better!?
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Statistically, the two events are not connected, so have no bearing on each other. Alive is a binary state - you are either alive or dead, the concept of nearly dead is another way of saying still alive.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Alive is a binary state - you are either alive or dead, the concept of nearly dead is another way of saying still alive.
Actually, no. ;) Being "nearly dead" is a quantitative statement which does not equal "being alive", as the quantity is lost. "Nearly dead" == "hardly alive" is more accurate, IMO. So, I don't view life as a binary state, neither the subjective experience of life nor the objective observation of the state of life. Marc
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So regardless of this happening twice.. you suggest that if you are scared half to death just once then you are in fact dead?
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"Captain, I canna' change the laws of physics."
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Can you help settle a debate between myself and a colleague? Given the wording in the title, how do you interprit it, what is your conclusion and how do you reach it? I won't reveal my arguement yet so as to maintain impartiality. EDIT: Well the first few replies back up my answer of 25% alive, looks like it will be free coffee for me if no-one can disprove this?!
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modified on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:30 AM
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Does "scared half to death" mean
life -= .5orlife *=.5. Once you and your colleague fix that I'll be able to give you an estimate for how long writing the application to answer this question will take. :laugh:3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
assume
life -= .5But don't spend too much time putting that estimate together, I have a funny feeling that this will never quite reach the top of the priority list!!!;-]
