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Baconbutty wrote:
Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.
I hardly think that death is "just desserts" for theft. In the US, it might be OK to shoot an unarmed thief in the back (and the pregnant woman just beyond him) in a crowded city street, or to maim a dozen or so (I believe the policing manual says no more than 15 per hour) innocent bystanders by provoking people to drive dangerously to escape being arrested for petty theft, but I don't think we need that kind of thing in Blighty. [edit] "Mr Hodgkins, from Wythenshawe, had been due to answer bail on 10 September over the Altrincham theft." So they knew who he was, where he lived, etc, and he was being processed for the crime (although why he still had the bike, I've no idea). Why risk harming or killing people, if the process works without it?
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Mark Wallace wrote:
by provoking people to drive dangerously to escape being arrested for petty theft
While I don't think all of the high speed chases are justified, and they certainly are dangerous, the police seem extremely cautious in the videos I've seen. It's the criminal who is the problem. How can you say the police "provoke" them to drive dangerously? All they were trying to do is arrest or pull them over, then they take off. Now, that usually means the criminal is scared shitless about something more than whatever it is the cop originally targeted them for. The cops give chase, usually at a good distance while they coordinate roadblocks down the road. What would you have them do, let them go? Say, "Oh well, I guess we'll get him next time." How you can put their reckless behavior on the shoulders of the police is baffling.
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Baconbutty wrote:
Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.
I hardly think that death is "just desserts" for theft. In the US, it might be OK to shoot an unarmed thief in the back (and the pregnant woman just beyond him) in a crowded city street, or to maim a dozen or so (I believe the policing manual says no more than 15 per hour) innocent bystanders by provoking people to drive dangerously to escape being arrested for petty theft, but I don't think we need that kind of thing in Blighty. [edit] "Mr Hodgkins, from Wythenshawe, had been due to answer bail on 10 September over the Altrincham theft." So they knew who he was, where he lived, etc, and he was being processed for the crime (although why he still had the bike, I've no idea). Why risk harming or killing people, if the process works without it?
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unless it's my bike, of course.
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyNope, even if it is your bike. :rolleyes:
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Nope, even if it is your bike. :rolleyes:
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He was due to attend court. So I suspect, only suspect, note, that they might already have had his details. :)
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A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.
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Since when was theft a capital offence?
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He was due to attend court. So I suspect, only suspect, note, that they might already have had his details. :)
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Yes, but were they aware of his identity before they had decided not to pursue him?
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Yes, but were they aware of his identity before they had decided not to pursue him?
They pretty much must have been, then or immediately afterwards, because they were able to serve him with a summons for the incident.
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Baconbutty wrote:
so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.
I don't regard death as the right punishment for a bike thief. :)
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Since when was theft a capital offence?
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I did not shoot the Deputy!!
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I'm of the personal opinion that high-speed chases aren't warranted under any circumstances.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001How would the police have caught him or pursued him?
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Since when was theft a capital offence?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
If it happens in a capitol city? Buh-dump-dump.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Oh well, if he showed you the middle finger then he deserves the death for sure... :laugh:
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What if he nearly ran me over on the footpath while escaping and when I yelled at him he showed me the finger...the middle finger that is?
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Oh well, if he showed you the middle finger then he deserves the death for sure... :laugh:
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You're right, such a course of action wouldn't give the scumbag enough time to think over his actions. Pliers and a blowtorch all the way! Bike thieves, aaargh (15 years and I still miss my LC350 :-( )
Russell Jones wrote:
Bike thieves, aaargh (15 years and I still miss my LC350 )
Don't worry, mate, I'm taking care of. :-D
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Since when was theft a capital offence?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Its not but anyone stupid enough to risk riding a bike without a helmet doesn't deserve much, if any, sympathy for an injury suffered directly because of that.
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He was due to attend court. So I suspect, only suspect, note, that they might already have had his details. :)
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How would the police have caught him or pursued him?
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Scrap the roadkill of the street when the guy crashes in another car.
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Yeah I get that, but as I read it he crashed and burned a few days later - not directly as a result of the police not chasing him, or am I reading that wrong?
You are correct on that point.
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You are correct on that point.
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