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The "burn Koran/Quran/[insert different way to spell it] day" thing continues..

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  • C Chris C B

    In this day and age, I agree, an unfair comparison. However this sort of language, in the thirteenth century, could well have been considered as 'hate speech': Starting with sura 9:73 "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." ...or you may prefer sura 9:123 "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that god is with the righteous." ...or blunt and to the point, sura 2:190 "Slay them wherever you find them." There are several hundred others, equally questionable with regard to moral intent. Of course, if you were to read Deuteronomy or Leviticus, you will find some truly appalling stuff.

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    Ian Shlasko
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    Yep, that looks like hate speech... Unless, like me, you consider all of those religious texts to be works of fiction, not instructions to be followed.

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      Yep, that looks like hate speech... Unless, like me, you consider all of those religious texts to be works of fiction, not instructions to be followed.

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      Dalek Dave
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      Which of course they are.

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      • J JHizzle

        Well yeah, there are 5 according to Captain Planet.

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        Slight mix up, there are five senses according to CSS. Aristotle was also incorrect in thinking there were four elements (Earth, Wind, Fire and Water).

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          It's a pretty stupid thing to do, but it's completely legal. It's a great way for them to say "Hey everyone, we're a bunch of bigoted #(%*&@#s!" Now, I want to see an event where they take the "holy" texts of every religion they can find (Don't want to leave anyone out!) and burn them all in the same bonfire. The message would be "Look, they're all just books." Actually, that would probably be misinterpreted as militant atheism... Hmm... Ok, let's see... Ok, new idea. Take all of those "holy" texts... Print a new book that interleaves the pages... One page of the bible, one page of the koran, one page of whatever else, and so on... Sort them randomly (But no repeats!) just to make sure it's fair. We'll call it... uh... Alright, that was the end of the idea, so someone else has to think of a funny name for it.

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          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          "Hey everyone, we're a bunch of bigoted #(%*&@#s!"

          I totally agree. Its a stupid act for many reasons; the least of which is illegality.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            We'll call it the newest Dan Brown book.

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            Well, you can burn those with impunity!

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              I'm all for it, burn the filthy books, draw the pedophile Mohammad, and burn the drawings. If we keep bowing down to them, soon our women will be wearing headscarfs and people will receive lashes and stonings for petty crimes.

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              You really are a mind numbingly stupid person.

              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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              • L Lost User

                They are drawing everyone together, don't even realise it's backfiring.

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                Trollslayer wrote:

                it's backfiring.

                And it will.

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                • K Keith Barrow

                  Slight mix up, there are five senses according to CSS. Aristotle was also incorrect in thinking there were four elements (Earth, Wind, Fire and Water).

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                  Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  Nope, he's not mixed up. Captain Planet was a horrible kiddie cartoon, where (And I'm ashamed to know this stuff), the five kids on the team, whatever they were called, had these rings that each represented and controlled one of the "five elements", in their messed-up logic... Fire, Water, Earth, Air, and "Heart"... Like I said, horrible cartoon.

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                    You really are a mind numbingly stupid person.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    Go submit to your islamic masters. Let them behead you.

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                    • I Ian Shlasko

                      Nope, he's not mixed up. Captain Planet was a horrible kiddie cartoon, where (And I'm ashamed to know this stuff), the five kids on the team, whatever they were called, had these rings that each represented and controlled one of the "five elements", in their messed-up logic... Fire, Water, Earth, Air, and "Heart"... Like I said, horrible cartoon.

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                      That being said, depending on your translation, there was a chinese belief in the elements being air, water, fire, wood and gold/metal.

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        Nope, he's not mixed up. Captain Planet was a horrible kiddie cartoon, where (And I'm ashamed to know this stuff), the five kids on the team, whatever they were called, had these rings that each represented and controlled one of the "five elements", in their messed-up logic... Fire, Water, Earth, Air, and "Heart"... Like I said, horrible cartoon.

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                        Keith Barrow
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                        My bad I thought by Capt. Planet he was talking about CSS. I did sick in my mouth a little when I found out what the 5th element was..... :-)

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                        • K Keith Barrow

                          My bad I thought by Capt. Planet he was talking about CSS. I did sick in my mouth a little when I found out what the 5th element was..... :-)

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                          Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          That's why I put it in quotes :)

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                          • I Ian Shlasko

                            Nope, he's not mixed up. Captain Planet was a horrible kiddie cartoon, where (And I'm ashamed to know this stuff), the five kids on the team, whatever they were called, had these rings that each represented and controlled one of the "five elements", in their messed-up logic... Fire, Water, Earth, Air, and "Heart"... Like I said, horrible cartoon.

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                            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                            How do you even know this? Oh did you notice how they have a team member from "everywhere", except Europe? Nice job, USians. And no, Russia does not count as Europe. .. yes I looked it up on wikipedia and I think I'm going to puke.

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Daniel Casserly wrote:

                              general good hygiene laws (such as excretion removal) that in "civilisation" was vacant until a few hundred years ago.

                              Civilisation is about 10,000 years old. Ur and Damascus? Ever heard of them? Britain had flushing toilets about 5000 years ago, and the Egyptians knew about food hygeine and were sailing to South America (although it was possibly the Phoenicians) so they knew the Earth was round and how big it was. All this predates the bible.

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                              Not to mention moral codes that are still lacking.

                              Yes, interesting that even Jesus says you should treat your slaves well and not beat them too hard or too often.

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              you should treat your slaves well and not beat them too hard or too often.

                              Is that possible? I always beleived that was what slaves were for. BTW, you know we can enslave the Welsh, Scotish AND French? Just check good old Leviticus [Chapter 25, verse 44]


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                              • C Chris C B

                                In this day and age, I agree, an unfair comparison. However this sort of language, in the thirteenth century, could well have been considered as 'hate speech': Starting with sura 9:73 "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." ...or you may prefer sura 9:123 "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that god is with the righteous." ...or blunt and to the point, sura 2:190 "Slay them wherever you find them." There are several hundred others, equally questionable with regard to moral intent. Of course, if you were to read Deuteronomy or Leviticus, you will find some truly appalling stuff.

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                                Chris C-B wrote:

                                Leviticus

                                Don't diss Levi! He's the drunken uncle of the bible. Thank's to him, [as long as your a good Christian] you can own slaves - both male and female - as long as their from the next country; I'm thinking of getting a couple of scots myself.


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                                • J JHizzle

                                  That being said, depending on your translation, there was a chinese belief in the elements being air, water, fire, wood and gold/metal.

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                                  JHizzle wrote:

                                  a chinese belief in the elements being air, water, fire, wood and gold/metal.

                                  I thought it was melamine, etylene glycol, and lead? :laugh:

                                  Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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                                    JHizzle wrote:

                                    a chinese belief in the elements being air, water, fire, wood and gold/metal.

                                    I thought it was melamine, etylene glycol, and lead? :laugh:

                                    Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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                                    Only in baby milk.

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                      Go submit to your islamic masters. Let them behead you.

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                                      You really are so utterly stupid you dont even recognise your stupidity.

                                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        You really are so utterly stupid you dont even recognise your stupidity.

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                                        All you can do is call me stupid, at least I'm not dominated by islam and still have the legal right to speak out against it. Sheeple like you submit to the threats from the religion of violence known as islam

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                                          All you can do is call me stupid, at least I'm not dominated by islam and still have the legal right to speak out against it. Sheeple like you submit to the threats from the religion of violence known as islam

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                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          All you can do is call me stupid

                                          That's about as positive as comments about you can get. :doh:

                                          Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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