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    Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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      Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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      No.

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        Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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        CPallini
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        Yes, more pies and marmalades. :rolleyes:

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          Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


          I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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          NormDroid
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          Only if they change the framework to support .net :)

          Two heads are better than one.

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            Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


            I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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            Simon P Stevens
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            Potentially. My primary reasons for refusing to do any apple related development have indeed been removed by their license changes. However I would be concerned that given apples history for highly restrictive licenses I would not be entirely surprised if my development efforts would be wiped out by another change to their license in 6 months time. However, with regards to iPhone/iPad specifically I also have concerns about the whole "app store" distribution model (and this includes windows 7 phone) in that I'm not sure I am happy with one company having full control (and review rights) of the only distribution channel. Overall, if this new stance persists given time I may begin to trust that they will not take such action, and that they are trustworthy and responsible with their intervention of the distribution channel, but I'm going to be giving it some time first.

            Simon

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              Only if they change the framework to support .net :)

              Two heads are better than one.

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              Simon P Stevens
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              With the new license changes, MonoTouch[^] is now permitted for use as a development tool.

              Simon

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                Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


                I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                Ian Shlasko
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                Nope. I don't buy Apple products... Don't feel like paying extra just for the Apple logo.

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                  Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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                  Lost User
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                  There are already rumours of a Qt port, in which case yes.

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                    Nope. I don't buy Apple products... Don't feel like paying extra just for the Apple logo.

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                    If you compare the Zune to the Ipod they cost about the same. I've been reevaluating my Ipod choice to make sure I'm getting all the functionality that I want. The problem I have with the Zune is the screen size is smaller than my Touch. I watch a lot of videos on it and don't want to give up any screen size just yet. I do like the radio options, but now the 4th generation Touch does HD video. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Probably stick with my 3rd generation until I actually have a need to change and of course by then there will be another version of Touch out or Zune. :)

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                      Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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                      wolfbinary
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                      No, for the reasons already given in other posts. If I do anything it will be to create a mobile website so it's platform agnostic to a certain degree.

                      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                        With the new license changes, MonoTouch[^] is now permitted for use as a development tool.

                        Simon

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                        NormDroid
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                        Interesting.

                        Two heads are better than one.

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                          Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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                          TheyCallMeMrJames
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                          I'll be spinning off a series of bodily sound apps and joining the app store team. I hear it works well.

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                            Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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                            Simon_Whale
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                            Not sure to be honest.. As I've heard that they get 30% of sales revenue and taking out personal projects not much insurance use really

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                              Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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                              Nemanja Trifunovic
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                              Mark Nischalke wrote:

                              Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?

                              Not really. If I ever get to develop any Apple-specific software, I'll use a mix of C++ and Objective-C anyway.

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                                Potentially. My primary reasons for refusing to do any apple related development have indeed been removed by their license changes. However I would be concerned that given apples history for highly restrictive licenses I would not be entirely surprised if my development efforts would be wiped out by another change to their license in 6 months time. However, with regards to iPhone/iPad specifically I also have concerns about the whole "app store" distribution model (and this includes windows 7 phone) in that I'm not sure I am happy with one company having full control (and review rights) of the only distribution channel. Overall, if this new stance persists given time I may begin to trust that they will not take such action, and that they are trustworthy and responsible with their intervention of the distribution channel, but I'm going to be giving it some time first.

                                Simon

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                                Jim Crafton
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                                Simon P Stevens wrote:

                                in that I'm not sure I am happy with one company having full control (and review rights) of the only distribution channel.

                                So you'd be equally unhappy developing for the PS3 or XBox eco-system as well right? As well as most of the other mobile devices, including the GPhone?

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                                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                                  Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?

                                  Not really. If I ever get to develop any Apple-specific software, I'll use a mix of C++ and Objective-C anyway.

                                  utf8-cpp

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                                  Jim Crafton
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                                  You mean, gasp, choke, actually developing an application?! Not just scribbling away some random markup, slapping a little copy-and-pasted Javascript throwing it online, and claiming "Job Done"! You rebel you!

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                                    If you compare the Zune to the Ipod they cost about the same. I've been reevaluating my Ipod choice to make sure I'm getting all the functionality that I want. The problem I have with the Zune is the screen size is smaller than my Touch. I watch a lot of videos on it and don't want to give up any screen size just yet. I do like the radio options, but now the 4th generation Touch does HD video. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Probably stick with my 3rd generation until I actually have a need to change and of course by then there will be another version of Touch out or Zune. :)

                                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                    Ian Shlasko
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                                    I'll stick with my Sansa Clip[^]... It does exactly what I need it to do, and it's so small that I can hold it in my hand and make people on the street think my headphone wire is plugged directly into my fist :) Ok, so people aren't (usually) THAT stupid, but it would be funny if they were. Seriously, though... It's tiny... Look at the Ins/Del/Home/End/PgUp/PgDn block of keys on your keyboard... It's that big.

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                                      Simon P Stevens wrote:

                                      in that I'm not sure I am happy with one company having full control (and review rights) of the only distribution channel.

                                      So you'd be equally unhappy developing for the PS3 or XBox eco-system as well right? As well as most of the other mobile devices, including the GPhone?

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                                      Simon P Stevens
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                                      Yup. Although, as far as I'm aware neither consoles require approval from their parent companies to publish. Yes you need a stack of money to buy the dev kits, and the required keys and hardware, but ultimately you can publish whatever you want. There are multiple distribution/publishing companies and many retail outlets if one won't stock your product another will. (Please correct me if I'm wrong on this)

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                                        Perhaps this is a good survey question. Since Apple has "relaxed" the rules for development does it make you any more inclined to develop for Apple products?


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                                        QuiJohn
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                                        I've considered it for a while. I think it could be fun. I own an iPod touch and it has impressed me more than I honestly thought it would. I haven't used any Android based device, so I can't really compare, but I've considered jumping into that space too. Right now, I'm more likely to develop for the Android because I don't own a mac. On that subject, does any existing iOS developer out there have a recommendation for the cheapest Mac that's capable as a dev machine? When I last shopped for a laptop and compared Macs and the hardware you get for the price... Ugh. Still, if I could justify it I'd get one. :)


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                                          If you compare the Zune to the Ipod they cost about the same. I've been reevaluating my Ipod choice to make sure I'm getting all the functionality that I want. The problem I have with the Zune is the screen size is smaller than my Touch. I watch a lot of videos on it and don't want to give up any screen size just yet. I do like the radio options, but now the 4th generation Touch does HD video. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Probably stick with my 3rd generation until I actually have a need to change and of course by then there will be another version of Touch out or Zune. :)

                                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                          phannon86
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                                          It's certainly improved my opinion of Apple ever so slightly, we'll see how long that lasts... this last year I've been using a ZuneHD (had to get it imported and rework my account to activate it though) and it's a cracking device. I love the UI and it gives me a good impression of what WP7 is going to bring to the party. However, I'm shit out of luck in terms of support for it, I was kinda hoping Microsoft would bring the sucker over here officially, but it seems it's not going to happen. The new iPod touch is certainly grabbing my attention, and by using my Android phone as a mifi, it'll be essentially an iPhone sans phone, I'll have a wifi signal wherever I go :cool: Even if the speeds won't always be fantastic.

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