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  • A Anthony Mushrow

    Well, in my home machine I have a 3Ghz dual core processor overclocked to 3.6Ghz and 4GB of RAM. I had always intended to upgrade to a quad core but I've never had the need, depends on your usage I suppose.

    My current favourite word: Harsh!

    -SK Genius

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    vaghelabhavesh
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    SK Genius wrote:

    overclocked

    I have heard that overclocking CPU may create some issues. Have you ever noticed any so far?

    If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much. 'Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.' Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)

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    • CPalliniC CPallini

      I have... a urge to upgrade! :)

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      leppie
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      CPallini wrote:

      I have... a urge to upgrade!

      To a new grammar checker? ;P

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        SK Genius wrote:

        overclocked

        I have heard that overclocking CPU may create some issues. Have you ever noticed any so far?

        If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much. 'Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.' Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)

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        Anthony Mushrow
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        It can cause problems if you push it too far or don't have sufficient cooling. I have the E8400 though which is usually quite good for overclocking and I actually ran it at 4Ghz for about a month without any issues. I put it back down to 3.6Ghz so that the timings would match 1:1 with the RAM and it's been like this for at least 18 months now, so I'd say that my processor is perfectly happy with it. Peoples results will vary though depending on the processor they are using and how cool they can keep it, each processor is also different so just because somebody else has an E8400 it doesn't necessarily mean that they could do the same overclock as me.

        My current favourite word: Harsh!

        -SK Genius

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        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

          I'm curious as to who has the fastest processor and most RAM here for their work and home PCs. I really need to upgrade soon.

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          Dan Neely
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          Home: i7-920 @ 4.1ghz 6GB DDR3 @ 1.8ghz(?) ATI 5870, over clocked but I don't recall how much. Work: :sigh: :((

          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            In English please!

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            Dan Neely
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            "Mine's bigger than yours"

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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              CPallini wrote:

              I have... a urge to upgrade!

              To a new grammar checker? ;P

              xacc.ide
              IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition

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              CPallini
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              You did not see the implied 'strong', did you? :rolleyes:

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
              [My articles]

              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                In what sense? And since when were you concerned about legality?

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                It was a joke. It seems that all enjoyable things are either made illegal or taxed heavily, as are things that empower the regular person.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  It was a joke. It seems that all enjoyable things are either made illegal or taxed heavily, as are things that empower the regular person.

                  Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                  I have to admit, when I first got the machine, it was a positively sinful experience. Still is :-D

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                  • CPalliniC CPallini

                    You did not see the implied 'strong', did you? :rolleyes:

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                    [My articles]

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                    leppie
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                    Not this morning ;P

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                    • A Anthony Mushrow

                      It can cause problems if you push it too far or don't have sufficient cooling. I have the E8400 though which is usually quite good for overclocking and I actually ran it at 4Ghz for about a month without any issues. I put it back down to 3.6Ghz so that the timings would match 1:1 with the RAM and it's been like this for at least 18 months now, so I'd say that my processor is perfectly happy with it. Peoples results will vary though depending on the processor they are using and how cool they can keep it, each processor is also different so just because somebody else has an E8400 it doesn't necessarily mean that they could do the same overclock as me.

                      My current favourite word: Harsh!

                      -SK Genius

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                      vaghelabhavesh
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                      Let me try this time.. do you have any link handy which tells how to overclock the cpu? By the way it wont hurt my CPU right?

                      If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much. 'Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.' Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)

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                      • V vaghelabhavesh

                        Let me try this time.. do you have any link handy which tells how to overclock the cpu? By the way it wont hurt my CPU right?

                        If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much. 'Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.' Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)

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                        Dan Neely
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                        crudeCodeYogi wrote:

                        Let me try this time.. do you have any link handy which tells how to overclock the cpu?

                        that's dependent on your cpu type, and generally OEM motherboards don't allow any such adjustments at all. The short generic form is below: In general open your bios settings and change increase the main bus speed. On core 2 and older Intel chips this is the Front Side Bus (FSB), on Nehalem and newer chips it's called Base Clock (BCLK). Off hand I don't recall what AMD calls it. In general increase it so that your total system speed (main bus speed * multipler) increases by 100 mhz at a time. Then boot into windows and run prime95 in stress testing mode while running a coretemp to monitor your CPU temperature. If you detect errors or your temp gets above 70C (80C if you're going for broke and are willing to accept the CPU only lasting a few years) reboot and drop your speed down again. If you get 30 minutes without error reboot and increase it until you're forced to back off. Once you find that point run prime 95 for at least 24 hours continuously with about 1/3rd of the time doing each of the 3 test types. If you have any errors drop your clock speed and restart the 24+ hour burnin test. IIRC with most intel CPUs you should be able to get ~20-25% this way. You can increase your max OC by increasing your CPU voltage a bit but this increases the heat released and isn't recommended with a stock cooler. Pushing your voltages too high is also the most common way to kill a CPU during OCing. At stock voltages the risk is minimal. Also boosting voltage runs into diminishing returns on a performance per watt scale very quickly.

                        crudeCodeYogi wrote:

                        By the way it wont hurt my CPU right?

                        As long as you don't mess with voltages and keep the temperature in the safe zone it's unlikely. Because the chip will run hotter you'll shorten its life a bit but at stock voltages you're talking about something like 10 years vs 8 or 9 which probably doesn't matter. Also if you're 24/7 and don't exceed the CPUs redline voltages the failure mode will mostly be the system becoming unstable until you back off the OC. However, if you're using watercooling and redlining everything like I do life expectancies are much less; I plan to replace my CPU + mobo every 18ish months and retire the old system to stock speed so I still have a backup that has good amounts of life left.

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                          crudeCodeYogi wrote:

                          Let me try this time.. do you have any link handy which tells how to overclock the cpu?

                          that's dependent on your cpu type, and generally OEM motherboards don't allow any such adjustments at all. The short generic form is below: In general open your bios settings and change increase the main bus speed. On core 2 and older Intel chips this is the Front Side Bus (FSB), on Nehalem and newer chips it's called Base Clock (BCLK). Off hand I don't recall what AMD calls it. In general increase it so that your total system speed (main bus speed * multipler) increases by 100 mhz at a time. Then boot into windows and run prime95 in stress testing mode while running a coretemp to monitor your CPU temperature. If you detect errors or your temp gets above 70C (80C if you're going for broke and are willing to accept the CPU only lasting a few years) reboot and drop your speed down again. If you get 30 minutes without error reboot and increase it until you're forced to back off. Once you find that point run prime 95 for at least 24 hours continuously with about 1/3rd of the time doing each of the 3 test types. If you have any errors drop your clock speed and restart the 24+ hour burnin test. IIRC with most intel CPUs you should be able to get ~20-25% this way. You can increase your max OC by increasing your CPU voltage a bit but this increases the heat released and isn't recommended with a stock cooler. Pushing your voltages too high is also the most common way to kill a CPU during OCing. At stock voltages the risk is minimal. Also boosting voltage runs into diminishing returns on a performance per watt scale very quickly.

                          crudeCodeYogi wrote:

                          By the way it wont hurt my CPU right?

                          As long as you don't mess with voltages and keep the temperature in the safe zone it's unlikely. Because the chip will run hotter you'll shorten its life a bit but at stock voltages you're talking about something like 10 years vs 8 or 9 which probably doesn't matter. Also if you're 24/7 and don't exceed the CPUs redline voltages the failure mode will mostly be the system becoming unstable until you back off the OC. However, if you're using watercooling and redlining everything like I do life expectancies are much less; I plan to replace my CPU + mobo every 18ish months and retire the old system to stock speed so I still have a backup that has good amounts of life left.

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                          vaghelabhavesh
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                          Thanks, that was very helpful. I will try the trial and drop method. Thanks again. :-)

                          If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much. 'Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.' Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)

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