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Lego Mindstorms Nxt or is there something cheaper and better?

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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    I want to introduce my six year daughter to building and programming Robots. Is there anything better in the market which is cheaper than Lego Mindstorms? Link[^] I have looked at Rovio and Spykee (and I have been unimpressed with both of them).

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    tobi93
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    If you ask me, Fischertechnik-Computing is much better than Lego, but I'm not sure weather it is good for such a young child. Fischertechnik itself recomments it for at least 10 jear old childs. http://www.kidzstore24.de/product_info.php?products_id=27956de[^]

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      I want to introduce my six year daughter to building and programming Robots. Is there anything better in the market which is cheaper than Lego Mindstorms? Link[^] I have looked at Rovio and Spykee (and I have been unimpressed with both of them).

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      YSLGuru
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      Just a thought but you might want to look at how to get the Lego Mindostorms set at a better rate then how to find an alternative. In this economy there are many more used items for sale out there then ever before and I bet if you tried you could find someone whose kids is not using their Mindstorms set and so they are ready to pitch it for whatveer they can get.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        I want to introduce my six year daughter to building and programming Robots. Is there anything better in the market which is cheaper than Lego Mindstorms? Link[^] I have looked at Rovio and Spykee (and I have been unimpressed with both of them).

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        LimeyRedneck
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        there are cheaper kits and alternatives but none that blend the two together any better. I would suggest you check out the local schools and ask about the various Robotics programs such as FIRST and the First Lego league (FLL). If a local school has a FIRST team its likely they have some mindstorm kits - Offer to mentor the kids and your daughter can get a REALLY early start on robotics, not to mention prpject management, design, business yada yada. My son was part of a rookie FIRST team which over the course of three years went from 12 confused kids to a serious business (http://www.forsythalliance.com/ FIRST
        FLL

        Nothing is impossible, we just don't know the way of it yet.

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          I want to introduce my six year daughter to building and programming Robots. Is there anything better in the market which is cheaper than Lego Mindstorms? Link[^] I have looked at Rovio and Spykee (and I have been unimpressed with both of them).

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          billyjoesunday
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          NXT is excellent for kids. I have been coaching kids 8 years up in a world wide challenge call First Lego League or FLL. Not only does this program involve teaching building and programming robots but also teamwork and problem solving in a fun competitive environment. Especially great for kids that don't compete in sports. First Lego League

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            I want to introduce my six year daughter to building and programming Robots. Is there anything better in the market which is cheaper than Lego Mindstorms? Link[^] I have looked at Rovio and Spykee (and I have been unimpressed with both of them).

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            George I Birbilis
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            see: http://www.delicious.com/birbilis/education+robotics[^] http://www.delicious.com/tag/education+robotics[^]

            Computer & Informatics Engineer Microsoft MVP J# 2004-2007 Borland "Spirit of Delphi" QuickTime, QTVR, Delphi VCL, ActiveX, COM, .NET, Robotics http://www.kagi.com/birbilis http://birbilis.spaces.live.com

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              I want to introduce my six year daughter to building and programming Robots. Is there anything better in the market which is cheaper than Lego Mindstorms? Link[^] I have looked at Rovio and Spykee (and I have been unimpressed with both of them).

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              feanorgem
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              No, NXT (32-bit ARM) or the older RCX (8-bit H8) and Robolab 2.9 are the way to go. You should check out FIRST www.usfirst.org, at 6 they would be in Junior FLL because FLL starts at 9. Also you can download C compilers for RCX and NXT that are far fewer issues than using the Labview of RoboLab but they can't be used for FIRST. You can even get the Lego video camera and do serious image processing with the RCX or NXT. And because of FIRST there are tons of resources for both the RCX and NXT.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                I want to introduce my six year daughter to building and programming Robots. Is there anything better in the market which is cheaper than Lego Mindstorms? Link[^] I have looked at Rovio and Spykee (and I have been unimpressed with both of them).

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                rfeague
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                My six year old has been building some basic robots with the OLLO Action Kit from robotis.com (or http://www.makershed.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=ollo). It's an amazing deal for only $30, and then they can graduate into more advanced OLLO stuff or the upper-level Bioloid series. I've been really impressed with the system.

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                • R rfeague

                  My six year old has been building some basic robots with the OLLO Action Kit from robotis.com (or http://www.makershed.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=ollo). It's an amazing deal for only $30, and then they can graduate into more advanced OLLO stuff or the upper-level Bioloid series. I've been really impressed with the system.

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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                  Yes, that's truly look likes an amazing deal. :thumbsup:

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                  • T TheyCallMeMrJames

                    The Mindstorms Nxt is not really above 6 year-olds. It's very much if...then programming. My 6 year old and my 8 year old and I have built 20+ robots in the last month or so with NXT. The programming is not really great for a 6 year old. My 8 year old gets it, but is a little overwhelmed. I am frustrated by the IDE. The building is fine...the bi-ped is not something your 6 year old will build. It took me and both boys over an hour to build, heads down. On the other hand, I came home from work yesterday and the boys had built "robogator", who uses the ultrasonic sensor to detect proximity, then runs towards the object, snapping it's jaws. There are 5 models of varying complexity that comes with the kit, for which there is a demo program at each of stages of building. My boys are perfect capable of firing up the bluetooth connection, compiling the app and uploading it to the 'brick'. I have a CodeProject article that is 82.7% complete on this topic, I'll get to posting it here before week's end. I will sum it up as this: extended periods of frustration with sudden moments of "holy s#!t look what we freekin' built!". Cheers.

                    They Call me Mister James

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                    I will sum it up as this: extended periods of frustration with sudden moments of "holy s#!t look what we freekin' built!". That's exactly what we feel when developing code! Don't put that burden on your kid :laugh:

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                    • J Joan M

                      6 years... clearly lego... When she will be a little bit older... then constructing the complete set (mechanically and electronically) + connecting it + programming it with C would be the choice... but at 6 Mindstorms is a good thing.

                      [www.tamelectromecanica.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                      Trev Farnarkle
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                      Nice thing with NXT is that you can program them in C... http://bricxcc.sourceforge.net/nbc/

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