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  • R Rage

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    unpoliceable, so do not worry about it.

    "pas vu, pas pris". But don't make a lifestyle out of it...

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    There is an English idiom that is somewhat similiar, "Out of sight, Out of mind", or, perhaps more apposite, "What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over" (Although this ends with a preposition, naughty).

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      There is an English idiom that is somewhat similiar, "Out of sight, Out of mind", or, perhaps more apposite, "What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over" (Although this ends with a preposition, naughty).

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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      Or how about this one: Wo kein Richter, da kein Henker (where there is no judge, there will be no executioner)

      A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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        Or how about this one: Wo kein Richter, da kein Henker (where there is no judge, there will be no executioner)

        A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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        Dalek Dave
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        Sehr Gut! I like that. I shall attempt to drop that into a conversation and see the reaction.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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          There is an English idiom that is somewhat similiar, "Out of sight, Out of mind", or, perhaps more apposite, "What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over" (Although this ends with a preposition, naughty).

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          (Although this ends with a preposition, naughty)

          No it isn't. (Impossible in Latin) != (not allowed in English). English has never had a rule about ending sentences with prepositions.

          Don't believe the b*llsh*t of those with only a little learning

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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            (Although this ends with a preposition, naughty)

            No it isn't. (Impossible in Latin) != (not allowed in English). English has never had a rule about ending sentences with prepositions.

            Don't believe the b*llsh*t of those with only a little learning

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            Dalek Dave
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            Up with this I shall not put!

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              There is an English idiom that is somewhat similiar, "Out of sight, Out of mind", or, perhaps more apposite, "What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over" (Although this ends with a preposition, naughty).

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              Rage
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              "pas vu, pas pris" means "not seen, not caught", which must be something like "What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over" (I don't know the word grieve). "Out of sight, out of mind" is more "loin des yeux, loin du coeur" or "Aus den Augen, aus dem Sinn", e.g. you tend to forget people or things you don't see very often.

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                "pas vu, pas pris" means "not seen, not caught", which must be something like "What the eye doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve over" (I don't know the word grieve). "Out of sight, out of mind" is more "loin des yeux, loin du coeur" or "Aus den Augen, aus dem Sinn", e.g. you tend to forget people or things you don't see very often.

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                Rage wrote:

                I don't know the word grieve

                When you lose someone you love, Grief is that feeling of your heart being broken, and to Grieve is the verb associated with it.

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                  Sehr Gut! I like that. I shall attempt to drop that into a conversation and see the reaction.

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                  Another common one: Wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter (where there is no plaintiff, there will be no judge) It fits together quite nicely with the other one.

                  A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                    Up with this I shall not put!

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                    Yoda?

                    A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Rage wrote:

                      I don't know the word grieve

                      When you lose someone you love, Grief is that feeling of your heart being broken, and to Grieve is the verb associated with it.

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                      thank you!

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                        Yoda?

                        A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        Yoda?

                        Winston Churchill, giving a verbal slap to someone who mentioned the don't-end-a-sentence-with-a-preposition "rule" to him. It's the kind of "rule" that's expounded by people who can't write with anything like the fluency and grace of people like Churchill -- he had real learning, anal adherents to stupid non-rules only have a little.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          CDP1802 wrote:

                          Yoda?

                          Winston Churchill, giving a verbal slap to someone who mentioned the don't-end-a-sentence-with-a-preposition "rule" to him. It's the kind of "rule" that's expounded by people who can't write with anything like the fluency and grace of people like Churchill -- he had real learning, anal adherents to stupid non-rules only have a little.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          It is a rule taught to children by strict English Masters in minor public schools about 30 years ago. (I am full of little aphorisms and idioms from that era of my life)

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                            It is a rule taught to children by strict English Masters in minor public schools about 30 years ago. (I am full of little aphorisms and idioms from that era of my life)

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            It is a rule taught to children by strict English Masters in minor public schools

                            ... Who themselves were educated in grammar schools, so studied the Classics, but didn't study English (which was taught by the same masters who taught Latin and ancient Greek) to any depth. That's where all the "English should work like Latin" non-rules come from -- from people who learned a lot by rote about dead languages, but not enough about their own.

                            Don't get me started on the "rules" of English introduced in the US around the 1930s, principally by Germans and newspaper owners.

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              It is a rule taught to children by strict English Masters in minor public schools

                              ... Who themselves were educated in grammar schools, so studied the Classics, but didn't study English (which was taught by the same masters who taught Latin and ancient Greek) to any depth. That's where all the "English should work like Latin" non-rules come from -- from people who learned a lot by rote about dead languages, but not enough about their own.

                              Don't get me started on the "rules" of English introduced in the US around the 1930s, principally by Germans and newspaper owners.

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                              I can't argue with that.

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                                CDP1802 wrote:

                                Yoda?

                                Winston Churchill, giving a verbal slap to someone who mentioned the don't-end-a-sentence-with-a-preposition "rule" to him. It's the kind of "rule" that's expounded by people who can't write with anything like the fluency and grace of people like Churchill -- he had real learning, anal adherents to stupid non-rules only have a little.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                Which can also be applied to our favorite passtime, programming. Don't we have lots of 'rules' as well? Most of these also exists because something may cause a bit of trouble if it's used unwisely. But then the 'rules' are carved in stone and it's considered bad style, even if it is used with consideration and does not cause any trouble. So I have little problems with global variables, gotos or anything else and don't care about the 'rules'. I'm more concerned with not running into whatever the 'rule' is trying to prevent.

                                A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                                  Which can also be applied to our favorite passtime, programming. Don't we have lots of 'rules' as well? Most of these also exists because something may cause a bit of trouble if it's used unwisely. But then the 'rules' are carved in stone and it's considered bad style, even if it is used with consideration and does not cause any trouble. So I have little problems with global variables, gotos or anything else and don't care about the 'rules'. I'm more concerned with not running into whatever the 'rule' is trying to prevent.

                                  A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                                  So you apply different rules related to where you are. If one company's programming style guide says "Put Braces on a New Line", you do so, but if you move to a different company, you might have to do it "wrong". If you have to put your braces on new lines, do you appreciate some loudmouth expressing the opinion that "Thou Shalt Never Put Braces on New Lines, and you're an Idiot if you Do!"? I'll bet you don't. That kind of half-educated cr@p pisses me off royally, because it is not a RULE, it's a a preference. That's the difference between style and rules. It's worse with the English language than with programming languages, because there are millions of "authorities", who have half read a few chapters of an English style guide, and declare that every preference they've pulled from that guide is an absolute law of the language, which is only disobeyed by idiots. If you're working as a journalist for a Chicago newspaper, you use the Chicago style guide. If you're one of Strunk's students (a bit tricky, given that he's dead), you use the God-awful Strunk & White, because that's how he preferred his students to write their essays. If you're not being paid to use a particular style guide, you just follow the real rules of English (which are fewer than most people think, and make what you write readable by everyone). i.e. you don't use convoluted "up with which I will not put" phrasing, you just write "that I will not put up with". By the way: "to put up with" is a phrasal verb*, so the "with" in the phrase is a particle of that verb, not a preposition. That makes the people who call it a preposition idiots, not the people who use it correctly as a verb. * None of the words "put", "up", or "with" has any meaning that is synonymous with "suffer" or "withstand", so "to put up with" has a discrete meaning, and must be treated as a single word.

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                                    Another common one: Wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter (where there is no plaintiff, there will be no judge) It fits together quite nicely with the other one.

                                    A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                                    Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                                    How about "Cop didn't see it? I didn't do it!" :-\ Flynn

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