I'll have what they're drinking
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It's the hardware costs and end user issues that they're avoiding for as long as possible.
As I said, in my experience, lot of companies have started moving to Windows 7. Almost everyone I work with (about 80 of them and some of them in F 500) have started the process. I see no evidence of anyone holding back as I saw when Vista was released. Even the most technological backward companies (textile and paper) have started it. So I assume that by Q3-Q4 2011, every one of my customers will be on W7 and Office 2010.
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I tried hard to understand what your rant is about. The people at Microsoft made a good choice by not supporting XP. Why waste time on developing using a LCD when you can develop something "performant" using latest technologies. The competition from other browsers got tough especially in terms of performance and I think IE9 will beat all of them. Finally, it will be possible to have faster HTML apps on IE. Also, by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
5! :thumbsup:
Regards, Nish
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
Not every corporation will have moved to Windows 7, where I work we are missing out Vista but its looking like mid 2011 before we can move to Windows 7 all because we need to test some severe legacy systems and how it works in Windows 7
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
Simon_Whale wrote:
Not every corporation will have moved to Windows 7
Yeah but a large number will move (the ones that need faster browsers certainly will).
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com (recently moved from web-host to wordpress)
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
by the time IE9 is released lot of corporate world will move to Windows 7.
How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?
Yusuf May I help you?
Yusuf wrote:
How about the 'lil fella who loves his XP and want to stick to it?
He can use older versions of IE, or use non-Microsoft web browsers :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com (recently moved from web-host to wordpress)
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does.
Yes, but IE8 does support XP, just stuck with this one. IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11 as well, but nobody complains about that.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
IE9 probably not supports Win 3.11 as well, but nobody complains about that.
Don't be so sure. :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
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As I said, in my experience, lot of companies have started moving to Windows 7. Almost everyone I work with (about 80 of them and some of them in F 500) have started the process. I see no evidence of anyone holding back as I saw when Vista was released. Even the most technological backward companies (textile and paper) have started it. So I assume that by Q3-Q4 2011, every one of my customers will be on W7 and Office 2010.
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I think you're letting your personal, anecdotal evidence cloud your judgement. Most IT stats and polls don't reflect your experiences.
Yes may be, but usually I have found that my personal evidence matches the reAl world. Wow! Someone voted your posts 1. I will compensate the voting.
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It all makes perfect business sense, why care about building a software for a soon to be out dated OS using LCD technologies when yo can clean up and rewrite using better technology and produce better software.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
It all makes perfect business sense, why care about building a software for a soon to be out dated OS using LCD technologies when yo can clean up and rewrite using better technology and produce better software.
And not support 68% of the market? Where is the "business sense" in that? In my not so humble opinion, Microsoft is just doing one more little thing to help nudge XP users towards 7. Which is fine, I just wish they would admit it.
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There's a big fuss being made over IE9. And perhaps they deserve it. They've come up with an astonishing and novel way to make their software run faster. They simply tell users to buy a faster box. For the record, I just can't get excited about browsers but like Viagra ads, they're a part of everyday life. At least the latter promises something enjoyable. As I'm sure you all know, IE9 doesn't support XP. Firefox does. Chrome does. Hell, even that funky tree hugging Apple browser does. I made a good living off of MS technologies and don't feel like learning a whole new religion to maintain my power over the small electronic boxes that seem to be taking over the household (the refrigerator has taken to whimpering and scooting away from the ethernet port). Even so, you have to wonder when someone will decide that it's time to just shoot MS in the head and put that lumbering, incompetent, dysfunctional collection of middle managers out of its misery. I swear, the first MS guy I hear whining about IE losing market share, I'm just going to whack him in the head with an empty pizza box. In the meantime, whatever the MS management is drinking, I'll have two, please.
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting ServicesYeah, but...XP must die. Personally, as the guy who has to support thatgoodfernuthin' browser (IEx), IE9 brings a gentle waft of hope. Hope that it may support standards. Hope that the CSS3 stuff I want to use will be appreciated by more. Hope that IE will STOP CRASHING AND KILLING MY ZEN CALM. OK, deep breaths. I'm good. Really.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
It all makes perfect business sense, why care about building a software for a soon to be out dated OS using LCD technologies when yo can clean up and rewrite using better technology and produce better software.
And not support 68% of the market? Where is the "business sense" in that? In my not so humble opinion, Microsoft is just doing one more little thing to help nudge XP users towards 7. Which is fine, I just wish they would admit it.
So you think people will upgrade from xp to windows 7 because it has a new shiny browser that supports HTML 5? Most users will not care about it as there are alternatives. So atleast that's not the motivation. However, building a browser that works better than the competition is a valid motivation. One way to do that was to build a faster rendering engine and d2d is the technology that allows that.
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So you think people will upgrade from xp to windows 7 because it has a new shiny browser that supports HTML 5? Most users will not care about it as there are alternatives. So atleast that's not the motivation. However, building a browser that works better than the competition is a valid motivation. One way to do that was to build a faster rendering engine and d2d is the technology that allows that.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
So you think people will upgrade from xp to windows 7 because it has a new shiny browser that supports HTML 5?
No I don't. IE9 is just one small piece of it. It's not the first and likely won't be the last. Ask yourself these questions: Why do Firefox, Opera, Google and Apple all support XP with their latest browsers? Who stands to gain the most if more users drop XP and switch to 7? Why did Microsoft choose to not support XP? Again, I don't blame them. IMO they should just come out and say it. But they are paranoid given past monopoly issues and the EU with a hair trigger.