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Intel to artificially cripple chips then ask you to pay for them to be brought back to spec

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  • R Rutvik Dave

    Wow... few years later... Now releasing Intel Core i12, redeem your coupon to make your 1 year old Core i7 processor, the new Core i12. :omg: This is ridiculous.

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    Kyudos
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    I don't see why it is ridiculous. As CG said earlier, lots of other bits of hardware do this, why not computers? My dishwasher has all the control circuitry of the 'deluxe' model, but only the fascia and cabling of a lower spec model. My DVD player is multi-region capable and is only soft-locked to a region on purchase (most DVD players seem to work like this). Why should computer hardware be the exception?

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    • C Chris Losinger

      i would never write an application which could expose or hide features based on information found in the license file. never. never ever.

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      Lost User
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      Why? I've got an application slated for it's first release next year. There are 6 planned versions, all based on different licenses. Doing it this way is economical for me and it allows my customers to upgrade to more complex features if they need them, without having to reinstall (which in many cases has to involve corporate IT departments). Is there a downside I'm not aware of? Cheers, Drew.

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      • M Member 96

        Then you'd be firmly in the minority. It's been accepted practice in the software world for decades not surprising that Intel is simply taking a page from software. I just installed Windows server 2008 for testing and the CD contained *every* version of windows server 2008 and the license key only unlocks the version it's for which you choose upon installation.


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        Chris Losinger
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        sometimes i'm too dry :suss:

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        • C Chris Losinger

          sometimes i'm too dry :suss:

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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          Member 96
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          Damn, no you weren't, I was too stupid. :doh:


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            Damn, no you weren't, I was too stupid. :doh:


            “If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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            Jim Crafton
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            Yes but it was still comical :)

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            • C Chris Maunder

              http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/19/intel-selling-scratch-off-upgrade-cars-to-unlock-processor-power/[^] Wow.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              Didn't IBM used to do something like this?

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              • C Chris Maunder

                http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/19/intel-selling-scratch-off-upgrade-cars-to-unlock-processor-power/[^] Wow.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                Chris Quinn
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                In the 1980's, hard disk storage for ICL mainframes came in two sizes - to upgrade to the larger size, they sent out an engineer to remove a screw which physically prevented the read/write heads from accessing 50% of the disk platter surfaces!

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                • K Kyudos

                  I don't see why it is ridiculous. As CG said earlier, lots of other bits of hardware do this, why not computers? My dishwasher has all the control circuitry of the 'deluxe' model, but only the fascia and cabling of a lower spec model. My DVD player is multi-region capable and is only soft-locked to a region on purchase (most DVD players seem to work like this). Why should computer hardware be the exception?

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                  Rutvik Dave
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                  Kyudos wrote:

                  My dishwasher has all the control circuitry of the 'deluxe' model, but only the fascia and cabling of a lower spec model.

                  Well, but they don't offer you a option to pay 50 bucks and make it deluxe model, right ?

                  Kyudos wrote:

                  My DVD player is multi-region capable and is only soft-locked to a region on purchase (most DVD players seem to work like this).

                  That is ridiculous too, so are the carrier locked cell phones... If you didnt pay for something, you dont get those things, fine. but this is like making you fool... kind of... you already own the thing, you just dont know, so now pay extra to have those things which you already have since last year... (I didn't down vote you)

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    I am not surprised. It's probably cheaper to produce one chip and sell an unlock than it is to produce two, as well as providing a way to onsell without having to ship anything. Modern commerce is not based on selling items based on the cost of manufacture plus a profit, but on selling something for as much of a margin as possible. I've heard of other consumer products where the basic model is essentially the deluxe model without the control panel to use the deluxe features, which are still on the circuit board.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Intel's always done it that way, segmenting by features enabled in microcode as well as by speed binning. The only difference is that if after the fact you discover you needed a feature only in the $260 model instead the equally clocked $250 model you don't have to buy and install a new chip to add it.

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • M Member 96

                      Then you'd be firmly in the minority. It's been accepted practice in the software world for decades not surprising that Intel is simply taking a page from software. I just installed Windows server 2008 for testing and the CD contained *every* version of windows server 2008 and the license key only unlocks the version it's for which you choose upon installation.


                      “If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      Dan Neely
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                      With the exception of 32/64 bit disks they've been doing that since Vista...

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        I read that last week somewhere (engadget?) and the thing that crossed my mind was that it is a software update to changet the chipspec. Now, if intel have confirmed that the Master Keys to HDCP have been discovered, how long will it be before someone manages to find a way round this.

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                        Dave Parker
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                        That was my first thought, though I'm guessing the keys would be different for each model and by the time they're discovered or leaked, if that was to happen, the chip would be outdated anyway?

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                        • H Henry Minute

                          That is how the old IBM Mainframe Disk Packs used to work. You'd start to get short on space, call your friendly neighbourhood Sales Rep, he would quote you an enormous figure to double the size, you would agree (you had no choice). Roughly a week later an engineer would come along and spend three hours or so changing your disk pack. Except that he didn't. He flipped a switch, job done! The rest of the time wasn't wasted though as he would do a general service/tidy around. For the feminists out there, I repeated 'he' in that because in over 5 years I never saw a female IBM engineer. There may have been some but I never met any. [Edit] Just seen that Distind recognizes this trick as well. [/Edit]

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                          Lee Humphries
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                          Henry Minute wrote:

                          He flipped a switch, job done!

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                            I don't see why it is ridiculous. As CG said earlier, lots of other bits of hardware do this, why not computers? My dishwasher has all the control circuitry of the 'deluxe' model, but only the fascia and cabling of a lower spec model. My DVD player is multi-region capable and is only soft-locked to a region on purchase (most DVD players seem to work like this). Why should computer hardware be the exception?

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                            Lost User
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                            It should, because that stuff tends to break down at the most inconvenient times. When this happens, I don't want to be at the mercy of all kinds off different licensing servers / hotlines or whatever procedures they have. For this I gave a DVD the John Simmons treatment after their 'activation' promptly failed when I needed it and at that time the hotline was cold as ice. And I will not buy anything from then again as long as they insist on such inconvenient procedures.

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