Following the US Rural vs Urban data comparison I posted a few weeks back, here is one for the Arctic
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Do you scan the internet and post comments to anything that doesn't interest you and you find boring? I can not think of any more pathetic. You perfectly well know what fat_boy's post is about. So here's what to do: - Don't open it. - Don't comment - Move on.
Ah, but these people feel it is their right to censor what they dont like so other people, who might be interested, cant read it. And thus they attack with a bucket load of :zzz:, which is, as you say, pathetic.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Really? I can think of a lot more funny things than that.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
in the context of your beliefs / obsessions on GW data at the moment it is funny
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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Yeah, right, buddy. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: They aren't just presumptions when you prove them right with every word you write. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Now its mocking laughter. I see your range of insults is expanding. The fact that I used to live in Belgium and find the growth of right wing parties in what is considered a socialist region, ie Europe, disproves entirely your presumption that posting on other subjects of interest is a mere smoke screen to detract from the impression that certain people like you hold that I am obsessed with one single topic.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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And if you spent any amount of time here, you'd realize that F_B's incessant AGW drivel is boring the piss out of everyone here. Except himself, of course. Clearly, Ian is a regular here. Your insinuation that he's cruising the internet looking for trouble, and this was an instance of that, is obviously wrong. Which raises the question - do you scan the internet and post comments to anything that offends you or you don't understand? I can't think of anything more pathetic.
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Your obsession. I accused you of being obsessed and you replied with more climate change stuff.
Dont you like obsessions? :) I probably play guitar a few hours a day, working on a number of really great songs for the band to play. Am I obsessed? Its an interest, its a passion, its a hobby. POinting out the facile failings of AGW an hour or so a week is small fry!
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No you can't.
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The octopus pet taken into a bar joke? For example?
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The what?
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Dont you like obsessions? :) I probably play guitar a few hours a day, working on a number of really great songs for the band to play. Am I obsessed? Its an interest, its a passion, its a hobby. POinting out the facile failings of AGW an hour or so a week is small fry!
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fat_boy wrote:
Dont you like obsessions?
Obsessions are fine if it's not just endless ranting.
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in the context of your beliefs / obsessions on GW data at the moment it is funny
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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The what?
You havent heard it? The Octopus can play any instrument. Various punters walk in, with instruments, and the Octopus plays them all. Violins, Guitars, flutes... Then a guy comes in carrying bagpipes. The Octopus stares laciviously. "Arent you going to play it then?" Asks the bar man. "Plat it?" says the Octopus, "As soon as I can get its pyjamas off I am going to fuck its brains out!"
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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An obsession whereby the person concerneed, Charles Babbage, became the father of computing, and his wife gave name to a programming language is funny?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
dont read it literally and read it in the context of the amount of posts that you put on the GW data and from the amount that you post about GW, you can be seen as obsessed / obsessing about the matter. apart from the few other posts that you do about your guitar. I would get involved with the subject but in honesty there is no swing in making me think that the subject is of the up most importance
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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You havent heard it? The Octopus can play any instrument. Various punters walk in, with instruments, and the Octopus plays them all. Violins, Guitars, flutes... Then a guy comes in carrying bagpipes. The Octopus stares laciviously. "Arent you going to play it then?" Asks the bar man. "Plat it?" says the Octopus, "As soon as I can get its pyjamas off I am going to fuck its brains out!"
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
What a raunchy octopus.
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Who said I wanted debate? I am telling you that the arctic temperatures are also heavilly UHI affected. :) Besides, you cant wrgue with the fact, its too simple to be debated: If you put a eather station anyway near an urban settlement you get unaccurate data that always shows more warming then there is.
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FACT... All the major ice sheets in the world have been in retreat for decades if not centuries and perhaps millenia. Ice melts when it gets WARMER!
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FACT... All the major ice sheets in the world have been in retreat for decades if not centuries and perhaps millenia. Ice melts when it gets WARMER!
PogoboyMtK wrote:
FACT All the major ice sheets in the world have been in retreat for decades if not centuries
If its a fact how can it be so ambiguous? They have either been in retreat for decades or centuries or millenia. Surely since its a fact you know precisely how long they have been melting for and dont have to guess? Secondly, its also not true. Antarctic sea ice has been steadilly increasing for about 40 years or so. (Unless of course you dont consider it 'major'). In fact it has just set a new record for sea ice extent: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_total_ice_extent[^] In combination with the arctic we have this total sea ice graph: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg[^] Wshich does appear to be steadilly decreasing, although perhaps this is due to increased volatillity rather than a decrease in maximums, which seem to be fairly constant. Of course the big porblem that a warming arctic and a cooling antarctic poses for AGW is the fact the both poles are supposed to warm according to the theory. And if the data doesnt fit the theory then the theory is wrong.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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And if you spent any amount of time here, you'd realize that F_B's incessant AGW drivel is boring the piss out of everyone here. Except himself, of course. Clearly, Ian is a regular here. Your insinuation that he's cruising the internet looking for trouble, and this was an instance of that, is obviously wrong. Which raises the question - do you scan the internet and post comments to anything that offends you or you don't understand? I can't think of anything more pathetic.
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LunaticFringe wrote:
Which raises the question - do you scan the internet and post comments to anything that offends you or you don't understand?
What the hell do you mean? That I don't understand the :zzz: symbol or feel offended by it? Get a grip! I am also a regular here. I agree with fat_boy's position, that AGW is a big and extreemely costly hoax. Very often I open his links, but not always. I do find many of them interesting. I seldom comment on them, don't need to. What really pisses me off is the endless tail of post with :zzz: :zzz: that some of you on every occation add to the original post. What is the point? Not interested? OK. Go away. Shut up. I don't see why you even open fat_boy's post in the first place. You know very well what he is writing about.
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4 anyone else want to show us their debating skills?
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sure, what are we debating? ooooh I see, another Global Warming post; I debated the first time, the second, but after 100 posts about the same subject it gets boring, bring new subjects to debate and I'll be more than happy to throw in my 2 cents, but for now :zzz:
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
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LunaticFringe wrote:
Which raises the question - do you scan the internet and post comments to anything that offends you or you don't understand?
What the hell do you mean? That I don't understand the :zzz: symbol or feel offended by it? Get a grip! I am also a regular here. I agree with fat_boy's position, that AGW is a big and extreemely costly hoax. Very often I open his links, but not always. I do find many of them interesting. I seldom comment on them, don't need to. What really pisses me off is the endless tail of post with :zzz: :zzz: that some of you on every occation add to the original post. What is the point? Not interested? OK. Go away. Shut up. I don't see why you even open fat_boy's post in the first place. You know very well what he is writing about.
Actually, fat_boy started the " :zzz: " game, using that reply on several of my logical rebuttals to his points. Previously, we would sometimes spend days debating over a single thread, but got tired of him distorting the facts, making illogical inferences, and oversimplifying every issue. I, and others, finally realized there's just no point, so we replaced all of that anti-climactic debate with :zzz: And there's your history lesson on fat_boy and AGW :)
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PogoboyMtK wrote:
FACT All the major ice sheets in the world have been in retreat for decades if not centuries
If its a fact how can it be so ambiguous? They have either been in retreat for decades or centuries or millenia. Surely since its a fact you know precisely how long they have been melting for and dont have to guess? Secondly, its also not true. Antarctic sea ice has been steadilly increasing for about 40 years or so. (Unless of course you dont consider it 'major'). In fact it has just set a new record for sea ice extent: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_total_ice_extent[^] In combination with the arctic we have this total sea ice graph: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg[^] Wshich does appear to be steadilly decreasing, although perhaps this is due to increased volatillity rather than a decrease in maximums, which seem to be fairly constant. Of course the big porblem that a warming arctic and a cooling antarctic poses for AGW is the fact the both poles are supposed to warm according to the theory. And if the data doesnt fit the theory then the theory is wrong.
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fat_boy wrote:
They have either been in retreat for decades or centuries or millenia.
We simply haven't had reliable records dating back far enough to determine the true extent of when the retreat started. That's why there is ambiguity in this.
fat_boy wrote:
Secondly, its also not true. Antarctic sea ice has been steadilly increasing for about 40 years or so. (Unless of course you dont consider it 'major'). In fact it has just set a new record for sea ice extent: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a\_new\_record\_for\_antartic\_total\_ice\_extent\[^\]
And it's growing, why??? I can find biased articles, too.
fat_boy wrote:
Of course the big porblem that a warming arctic and a cooling antarctic poses for AGW is the fact the both poles are supposed to warm according to the theory. And if the data doesnt fit the theory then the theory is wrong.
It turns out you're wrong... Antarctic ice is growing because of global warming which has caused snowfall to increase in the southern pole region. The region itself has seen the same temperature increases as the rest of the planet.
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fat_boy wrote:
They have either been in retreat for decades or centuries or millenia.
We simply haven't had reliable records dating back far enough to determine the true extent of when the retreat started. That's why there is ambiguity in this.
fat_boy wrote:
Secondly, its also not true. Antarctic sea ice has been steadilly increasing for about 40 years or so. (Unless of course you dont consider it 'major'). In fact it has just set a new record for sea ice extent: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a\_new\_record\_for\_antartic\_total\_ice\_extent\[^\]
And it's growing, why??? I can find biased articles, too.
fat_boy wrote:
Of course the big porblem that a warming arctic and a cooling antarctic poses for AGW is the fact the both poles are supposed to warm according to the theory. And if the data doesnt fit the theory then the theory is wrong.
It turns out you're wrong... Antarctic ice is growing because of global warming which has caused snowfall to increase in the southern pole region. The region itself has seen the same temperature increases as the rest of the planet.
PogoboyMtK wrote:
It turns out you're wrong... Antarctic ice is growing because of global warming which has caused snowfall to increase in the southern pole region. The region itself has seen the same temperature increases as the rest of the planet.
I found it remarkably interesting that (at least when I caught this, probably 5 years ago now) Antarctica technically qualified as a desert due to lack of precipitation. Generally not something someone considers. It does put a nice odd angle on the 'but they're growing, so it can't be getting warmer' argument.
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Oh, I see. :zzz: is an insult, where 'another dick'... is not. You're boring and obsessed. Anyone who fails to cater to your obsession is a dick, an AGW fanatic, etc. It's really pretty amusing- you have no idea of my beliefs on the subject, but since I don't share your mental disturbance, you assume I'm against you. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
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