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    I've been going on a few little spending sprees since I've been getting paid, and these have somehow led me to get an Xbox 360S. It's a lovely console, but the lag from connecting to the Windows Media Centre Extender is almost intolerable when other people are connected to the network, let alone using iPlayer. To fix that kind of problem (and a few others), I'm considering buying a second router and installing it in my bedroom. I don't plan to let anybody else connect to it, security will be in place, etc. The difference between this and the one in another part of the house is that this one won't have any data connection to the wall. It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices. I'm considering some automation stuff in the future, but that's a long time away. Obviously, a connection to this won't give me internet access, and I think that I'd go into withdrawal without an hourly dose of broadband. If I wanted to do this in Windows, I'd connect to both and bridge the two connections; the issue is that two of the things which will connect to my bedroom router won't be running Windows, which obviously complicates things. What I'm effectively looking for is a router which can run its own network, but connect to the internet through another network when it needs to. Can anybody recommend one which can do this, or am I over-complicating it and ignoring a simple way to do things? So far I've looked at this router; it has high reviews, but I'm not certain whether it can do what I want it to.

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      I've been going on a few little spending sprees since I've been getting paid, and these have somehow led me to get an Xbox 360S. It's a lovely console, but the lag from connecting to the Windows Media Centre Extender is almost intolerable when other people are connected to the network, let alone using iPlayer. To fix that kind of problem (and a few others), I'm considering buying a second router and installing it in my bedroom. I don't plan to let anybody else connect to it, security will be in place, etc. The difference between this and the one in another part of the house is that this one won't have any data connection to the wall. It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices. I'm considering some automation stuff in the future, but that's a long time away. Obviously, a connection to this won't give me internet access, and I think that I'd go into withdrawal without an hourly dose of broadband. If I wanted to do this in Windows, I'd connect to both and bridge the two connections; the issue is that two of the things which will connect to my bedroom router won't be running Windows, which obviously complicates things. What I'm effectively looking for is a router which can run its own network, but connect to the internet through another network when it needs to. Can anybody recommend one which can do this, or am I over-complicating it and ignoring a simple way to do things? So far I've looked at this router; it has high reviews, but I'm not certain whether it can do what I want it to.

      OSDev :)

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      What about something like this[^]?

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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        I've been going on a few little spending sprees since I've been getting paid, and these have somehow led me to get an Xbox 360S. It's a lovely console, but the lag from connecting to the Windows Media Centre Extender is almost intolerable when other people are connected to the network, let alone using iPlayer. To fix that kind of problem (and a few others), I'm considering buying a second router and installing it in my bedroom. I don't plan to let anybody else connect to it, security will be in place, etc. The difference between this and the one in another part of the house is that this one won't have any data connection to the wall. It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices. I'm considering some automation stuff in the future, but that's a long time away. Obviously, a connection to this won't give me internet access, and I think that I'd go into withdrawal without an hourly dose of broadband. If I wanted to do this in Windows, I'd connect to both and bridge the two connections; the issue is that two of the things which will connect to my bedroom router won't be running Windows, which obviously complicates things. What I'm effectively looking for is a router which can run its own network, but connect to the internet through another network when it needs to. Can anybody recommend one which can do this, or am I over-complicating it and ignoring a simple way to do things? So far I've looked at this router; it has high reviews, but I'm not certain whether it can do what I want it to.

        OSDev :)

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        Something from here[^].

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          Something from here[^].

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          Those would rip DVDs well.

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            What about something like this[^]?

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            Thanks, but it looks like that just converts an Ethernet port to wireless. I've already got wireless functionality, and it connects to my home network neatly. Because of lag I wanted to be able to set up a second network composed of my Xbox, PC and phone; this second network should also be able to access the internet via the first network.

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              Thanks, but it looks like that just converts an Ethernet port to wireless. I've already got wireless functionality, and it connects to my home network neatly. Because of lag I wanted to be able to set up a second network composed of my Xbox, PC and phone; this second network should also be able to access the internet via the first network.

              OSDev :)

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              OK. Part of my point was, do you need a Router or a Bridge? Don't know if this[^] might help.

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                I've been going on a few little spending sprees since I've been getting paid, and these have somehow led me to get an Xbox 360S. It's a lovely console, but the lag from connecting to the Windows Media Centre Extender is almost intolerable when other people are connected to the network, let alone using iPlayer. To fix that kind of problem (and a few others), I'm considering buying a second router and installing it in my bedroom. I don't plan to let anybody else connect to it, security will be in place, etc. The difference between this and the one in another part of the house is that this one won't have any data connection to the wall. It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices. I'm considering some automation stuff in the future, but that's a long time away. Obviously, a connection to this won't give me internet access, and I think that I'd go into withdrawal without an hourly dose of broadband. If I wanted to do this in Windows, I'd connect to both and bridge the two connections; the issue is that two of the things which will connect to my bedroom router won't be running Windows, which obviously complicates things. What I'm effectively looking for is a router which can run its own network, but connect to the internet through another network when it needs to. Can anybody recommend one which can do this, or am I over-complicating it and ignoring a simple way to do things? So far I've looked at this router; it has high reviews, but I'm not certain whether it can do what I want it to.

                OSDev :)

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                0x3c0 wrote:

                It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices.

                So why a router? Why not a simple ethernet switch, or even just a hub?

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                  OK. Part of my point was, do you need a Router or a Bridge? Don't know if this[^] might help.

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                  I see your point. Ideally, I'd like to have a router which can act as a bridge - the router would have to administer network B (my bedroom) while bridging it to network A (downstairs). I suppose in theory, the first link you gave could be plugged into an Ethernet port on the back of any old router, acting as the bridge. Obviously though, it'd be more convenient if the router could do this itself. Thanks for the link; it's cleared up some of my confusion

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                    I see your point. Ideally, I'd like to have a router which can act as a bridge - the router would have to administer network B (my bedroom) while bridging it to network A (downstairs). I suppose in theory, the first link you gave could be plugged into an Ethernet port on the back of any old router, acting as the bridge. Obviously though, it'd be more convenient if the router could do this itself. Thanks for the link; it's cleared up some of my confusion

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                    You might also like to peruse this[^] site. They claim to be able to flash some Linksys routers to become bridges or bridge/routers. This is not a recommendation, I have never used them, just read about them. I believe that Roger Wright has played with this idea, so if you see him posting you might want to ask him. :)

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                      You might also like to peruse this[^] site. They claim to be able to flash some Linksys routers to become bridges or bridge/routers. This is not a recommendation, I have never used them, just read about them. I believe that Roger Wright has played with this idea, so if you see him posting you might want to ask him. :)

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                      I've looked around the site, and it seems promising. Thanks - I'd heard of dd-wrt, but never researched them.

                      OSDev :)

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                        0x3c0 wrote:

                        It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices.

                        So why a router? Why not a simple ethernet switch, or even just a hub?

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                        Annoying web browser, deleting my text when I accidentally closed the tab. It's a good question, and one which I had to do a bit of research into to find out the answer. While a hub or switch would provide isolation, all the ones which I've seen have no support for WiFi, which would make things rather expensive and complicate the setting up of new devices. Ideally, I just want to be able to have two networks - one which has Internet access and maintains the normal devices, and another which doesn't (but connects to the one with Internet access) and maintains the devices in my bedroom.

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                          You might also like to peruse this[^] site. They claim to be able to flash some Linksys routers to become bridges or bridge/routers. This is not a recommendation, I have never used them, just read about them. I believe that Roger Wright has played with this idea, so if you see him posting you might want to ask him. :)

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                          Actually, I went through all the steps to flash my DLink router, only to discover after the fact that it's one of a few that do not support wireless bridging. I dropped that project and completed my task with a much nicer, though far more expensive solution - a Ubiquitus Wireless Bridge. This weekend, though, I've been playing with the router again. I have in mind moving my server into my workshop (now that I have an air conditioner installed there) to get that noisy bugger out of the house. Since the cable enters there anyway, I'm thinking that moving the modem out there, then tying it to the wireless router and the server, will probably improve the signal quality by cutting 80' off the incoming cable length. I've already tested the wireless signal strength over the maximum distance, and it's full signal all the way.

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                            I've been going on a few little spending sprees since I've been getting paid, and these have somehow led me to get an Xbox 360S. It's a lovely console, but the lag from connecting to the Windows Media Centre Extender is almost intolerable when other people are connected to the network, let alone using iPlayer. To fix that kind of problem (and a few others), I'm considering buying a second router and installing it in my bedroom. I don't plan to let anybody else connect to it, security will be in place, etc. The difference between this and the one in another part of the house is that this one won't have any data connection to the wall. It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices. I'm considering some automation stuff in the future, but that's a long time away. Obviously, a connection to this won't give me internet access, and I think that I'd go into withdrawal without an hourly dose of broadband. If I wanted to do this in Windows, I'd connect to both and bridge the two connections; the issue is that two of the things which will connect to my bedroom router won't be running Windows, which obviously complicates things. What I'm effectively looking for is a router which can run its own network, but connect to the internet through another network when it needs to. Can anybody recommend one which can do this, or am I over-complicating it and ignoring a simple way to do things? So far I've looked at this router; it has high reviews, but I'm not certain whether it can do what I want it to.

                            OSDev :)

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                            Any router will do what you want, just make sure it is a router and not a modem/router. Plug a cable from the existing network into the input of the router, you can set a Static IP or let DHCP do the work. Then setup the rest of your internal network however you want it. When done all equipment in your bedroom will be working off the new router and won't have any idea of the other network in the ret of your house. As far as fixing any issues you are currently having when using the XBox, they may or may not be fixed. As it is you will still be sharing the Broadband with all the other users so ping and lag times will still be longer than if you had the connection all to yourself.

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                              0x3c0 wrote:

                              It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices.

                              So why a router? Why not a simple ethernet switch, or even just a hub?

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                              Electron Shepherd wrote:

                              even just a hub

                              Are those even still built?

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                                I've been going on a few little spending sprees since I've been getting paid, and these have somehow led me to get an Xbox 360S. It's a lovely console, but the lag from connecting to the Windows Media Centre Extender is almost intolerable when other people are connected to the network, let alone using iPlayer. To fix that kind of problem (and a few others), I'm considering buying a second router and installing it in my bedroom. I don't plan to let anybody else connect to it, security will be in place, etc. The difference between this and the one in another part of the house is that this one won't have any data connection to the wall. It will only exist to connect my phone, computer and Xbox to, allowing me to stream video between them without as much lag and share files between only my three devices. I'm considering some automation stuff in the future, but that's a long time away. Obviously, a connection to this won't give me internet access, and I think that I'd go into withdrawal without an hourly dose of broadband. If I wanted to do this in Windows, I'd connect to both and bridge the two connections; the issue is that two of the things which will connect to my bedroom router won't be running Windows, which obviously complicates things. What I'm effectively looking for is a router which can run its own network, but connect to the internet through another network when it needs to. Can anybody recommend one which can do this, or am I over-complicating it and ignoring a simple way to do things? So far I've looked at this router; it has high reviews, but I'm not certain whether it can do what I want it to.

                                OSDev :)

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                                You want a pfSense-powered firewall appliance. It supports subnets which is what you're trying to do - isolate one group of devices from another group, but still grant access to the internet for both groups.

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