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    wolfbinary
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    Recently I found out about a Tennessee man who's home burned down because he hadn't paid the fee for rural fire fighting in his county. Now I'd never heard of such a thing. The mayor calls it pay as you go. Has anyone heard of this before?

    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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      Recently I found out about a Tennessee man who's home burned down because he hadn't paid the fee for rural fire fighting in his county. Now I'd never heard of such a thing. The mayor calls it pay as you go. Has anyone heard of this before?

      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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      Keith Barrow
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      wolfbinary wrote:

      Has anyone heard of this before?

      Only in the 18th century.

      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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        Recently I found out about a Tennessee man who's home burned down because he hadn't paid the fee for rural fire fighting in his county. Now I'd never heard of such a thing. The mayor calls it pay as you go. Has anyone heard of this before?

        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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        JHizzle
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        Got the town name? This seems really out of place... unless it was the Discworld but even then...

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          wolfbinary wrote:

          Has anyone heard of this before?

          Only in the 18th century.

          Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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          Lost User
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          Was that the fire dept. depicted in 'The Gangs of New York'? :-D

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            Recently I found out about a Tennessee man who's home burned down because he hadn't paid the fee for rural fire fighting in his county. Now I'd never heard of such a thing. The mayor calls it pay as you go. Has anyone heard of this before?

            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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            Excellent idea. Now buy an apartment, refuse to pay firefighting fees and set it on fire. edit: actually, I had heard of this. Also, I expect their insurance won't pay up. They never do anyway, but now they can say it was their own fault. And it pretty much was - whether the rule is stupid or not is irrelevant. They could have known this would happen.

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              Got the town name? This seems really out of place... unless it was the Discworld but even then...

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              Carbon12
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              http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/internal?st=print&id=104052668&path=/news/local[^] Good thing his neighbor had paid or he would have burned down as well.

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                wolfbinary wrote:

                Has anyone heard of this before?

                Only in the 18th century.

                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                Yayozama
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                You have more than 200 years??? :omg:

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                  Recently I found out about a Tennessee man who's home burned down because he hadn't paid the fee for rural fire fighting in his county. Now I'd never heard of such a thing. The mayor calls it pay as you go. Has anyone heard of this before?

                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                  Corporal Agarn
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                  I wonder how may payed after that?

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                    http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/internal?st=print&id=104052668&path=/news/local[^] Good thing his neighbor had paid or he would have burned down as well.

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                    wolfbinary
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                    Thanks for finding it.

                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                      Excellent idea. Now buy an apartment, refuse to pay firefighting fees and set it on fire. edit: actually, I had heard of this. Also, I expect their insurance won't pay up. They never do anyway, but now they can say it was their own fault. And it pretty much was - whether the rule is stupid or not is irrelevant. They could have known this would happen.

                      modified on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 11:33 AM

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                      wolfbinary
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                      This is what taxes are for. Why is there a fee for something that should be a no brainer?

                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      They could have known this would happen.

                      How's that? Are you saying this is okay?

                      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                        Recently I found out about a Tennessee man who's home burned down because he hadn't paid the fee for rural fire fighting in his county. Now I'd never heard of such a thing. The mayor calls it pay as you go. Has anyone heard of this before?

                        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                        From the article that got linked to, it doesn't sound like pay as you go. The homeowner did offer to pay, but was still declined service. There is probably more to this story than is being mediatized. :)

                        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                          Recently I found out about a Tennessee man who's home burned down because he hadn't paid the fee for rural fire fighting in his county. Now I'd never heard of such a thing. The mayor calls it pay as you go. Has anyone heard of this before?

                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          This is what happens when we get socialism/fascism. Trillions upon trillions of your tax dollars go to offshore mega banks while your services are rationed or outright cut.

                          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                            This is what happens when we get socialism/fascism. Trillions upon trillions of your tax dollars go to offshore mega banks while your services are rationed or outright cut.

                            Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                            Ian Shlasko
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                            I knew you would chime in with that... This isn't socialism or fascism. This is capitalism taken to extremes. He didn't pay for fire protection, so they let his house burn down. If it was socialism, they would have come anyway, and just charged it to the taxpayers. If it was fascism, they would have burnt his house down themselves for failure to pay.

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                              From the article that got linked to, it doesn't sound like pay as you go. The homeowner did offer to pay, but was still declined service. There is probably more to this story than is being mediatized. :)

                              Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                              Here's some more information. http://www.thefoxnation.com/justice/2010/10/05/firefighters-watch-home-burns-ground[^] The video tells how the fire got started and more people's reaction and when the policy began.

                              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                This is what taxes are for. Why is there a fee for something that should be a no brainer?

                                harold aptroot wrote:

                                They could have known this would happen.

                                How's that? Are you saying this is okay?

                                That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                wolfbinary wrote:

                                Are you saying this is okay?

                                Is that even relevant? I wouldn't have made a stupid system like this, but now that it's there the people can choose between paying or risking their house. And they can also complain, but that never helps, you just get buried in bureaucracy. Their neighbours knew of this, so yes they could (and should) have known. I presume they were also told about this fire fighting fee, but I'm not certain. Regardless, if I was their insurance, I wouldn't pay up.

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                                  wolfbinary wrote:

                                  Are you saying this is okay?

                                  Is that even relevant? I wouldn't have made a stupid system like this, but now that it's there the people can choose between paying or risking their house. And they can also complain, but that never helps, you just get buried in bureaucracy. Their neighbours knew of this, so yes they could (and should) have known. I presume they were also told about this fire fighting fee, but I'm not certain. Regardless, if I was their insurance, I wouldn't pay up.

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                                  wolfbinary
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                                  harold aptroot wrote:

                                  Is that even relevant?

                                  Yes. It's what makes people change the policies and political leaders in the country, community, etc.

                                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                    harold aptroot wrote:

                                    Is that even relevant?

                                    Yes. It's what makes people change the policies and political leaders in the country, community, etc.

                                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                    Lol good one :laugh:

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                                      I knew you would chime in with that... This isn't socialism or fascism. This is capitalism taken to extremes. He didn't pay for fire protection, so they let his house burn down. If it was socialism, they would have come anyway, and just charged it to the taxpayers. If it was fascism, they would have burnt his house down themselves for failure to pay.

                                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                      Gonzoox
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                                      You pretty much explained it to him, but in his delusional mind he won't be able to see that this is capitalism

                                      I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                                        Lol good one :laugh:

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                                        wolfbinary
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                                        I guess democracy doesn't work in your country. X|

                                        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                          You pretty much explained it to him, but in his delusional mind he won't be able to see that this is capitalism

                                          I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                                          Ian Shlasko
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                                          If he's that blind, I'll just go back to my Good Will Hunting strategy (See two threads back)... It shut him up before.

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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