I am gonna be in so much trouble tomorrow.
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
So you told the bosses' boss the truth? Sure, it may be the case that the FD would have preferred to be there him/herself, to "manage the message" as it were, but I don't see how telling the truth should get you into trouble. Of course, in this case, "should" is not the same as "could". I thought you (as the accountant) just counted the beans. I assumed other people actually went and spent them. A cost overrun on a building site isn't your fault, surely?
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I am already seeing a horse's head in your bed when you wake up.
He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!
Meh, his wife sees one every morning.
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So you told the bosses' boss the truth? Sure, it may be the case that the FD would have preferred to be there him/herself, to "manage the message" as it were, but I don't see how telling the truth should get you into trouble. Of course, in this case, "should" is not the same as "could". I thought you (as the accountant) just counted the beans. I assumed other people actually went and spent them. A cost overrun on a building site isn't your fault, surely?
Electron Shepherd wrote:
A cost overrun on a building site isn't your fault, surely?
No, and I successfully manoeuvred myself from any responsibility. I never do anything that would get me into trouble. (I make sure there are emails or memos asking me to do things, that way I pass the buck). I won't be in trouble for telling the truth, I will be in trouble simply for telling him anything at all. The standing orders amongst us all are that we tell the chainman as little as possible.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
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Meh, his wife sees one every morning.
That's a horses ar...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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That's a horses ar...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet.
Better get weaving, if you are entering the murky world of politics :-)
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions.
if he wouldn't like the answers, he should have asked those questions sooner giving himself the opportunity to step in on time. :)
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Lets cut the chase and get to the point. Are we getting a CCC (on time) tomorrow or not?
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Lets cut the chase and get to the point. Are we getting a CCC (on time) tomorrow or not?
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.
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Lets cut the chase and get to the point. Are we getting a CCC (on time) tomorrow or not?
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.
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Lets cut the chase and get to the point. Are we getting a CCC (on time) tomorrow or not?
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Haven't you mentioned pay rise earlier today? And bonus? Well, now it certain you can forget about them.
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Lets cut the chase and get to the point. Are we getting a CCC (on time) tomorrow or not?
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.
You just reminded me of Rajesh from The Big Bang Theory! :laugh:
Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
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You just reminded me of Rajesh from The Big Bang Theory! :laugh:
Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
me of Rajesh from The Big Bang Theory!
Or Sheldon. :)
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Ever thought why the FD and MD disappeared at the same time? Maybe they wanted YOU to face the music :-D
I are n00b.
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Your first mistake: becoming an accountant. Your second mistake: not reporting sketchiness as soon as it happened. Your third mistake: asking for a raise. Your fourth mistake: posting this much detail on a public forum. Perhaps somebody created this situation so that you would post here and reveal sensitive company information then use that breach to fire you. Or maybe your delay in reporting these issues will get you fired. In any event, you're gonna be fired. Or, you know, that's just penny-pinching business as usual. :)
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Why woudl I want to watch a horses...Oh I see what you mean! :laugh: Sorry - I never could resist a feed line like that :-D
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You just reminded me of Rajesh from The Big Bang Theory! :laugh:
Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
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Electron Shepherd wrote:
A cost overrun on a building site isn't your fault, surely?
No, and I successfully manoeuvred myself from any responsibility. I never do anything that would get me into trouble. (I make sure there are emails or memos asking me to do things, that way I pass the buck). I won't be in trouble for telling the truth, I will be in trouble simply for telling him anything at all. The standing orders amongst us all are that we tell the chainman as little as possible.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
he standing orders amongst us all are that we tell the chainman as little as possible
Now I have a serious problem with that, this person has the ultimate responsibility within the organisation and his minions either don't tell the truth or don't tell the complete story. And then we want to blame the board when the organisation goes tits up. I hate the way management shield their seniors from the truth about the organisation they work for. The one person you need to point out a problem to is your boss or his boss etc (this is why they keep me in a dark corner with plenty of work and NEVER invite me to non technical meetings).
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Financial Director has gone home ill, Managing Director is out of the office and in walks the Chairman. With no-one else to talk to he picks on me. So there I am in his office discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high... I am trying to answer him without giving him any information, and am doing quite well, then there comes the odd question or two where I cannot dodge the bullet. I have to say certain things that he is best off not knowing, for it will cause the other Directors to be very frustrated and annoyed. When my boss (the financial director) returns tomorrow I hope he understands the predicament I was in and I shall tell him in advance what was said, what reports I had to produce and where I laid the blame for various things, (at the door of the managing director!). I don't mind doing the dirty work, provided it is being done to people further down the food chain than myself, but when you are asked to provide ammunition against those higher up it can be somewhat worrying! Ho Hum, if he didn't like the answers, he shouldn't have asked the questions. It was when the commercial manager walked in and was asked to join us and then grilled over cost over-runs on one of the sites that I thought there would be trouble. Fortunately the CM was able to explain the reasons for the over-runs were because we were progressing very quickly, but I was glad to be excused when the time came. Back to my office and emails aplenty to the other directors and all the managers telling them that the chairman was having a coniption fit about spending money. I think they will be glad of the heads up.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
discussing Cash-Flows and Payments, Sub-Contractors and Suppliers, Professional Fees and why they are so high...
Because we deserve it.
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