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    Dario Solera
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    When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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      When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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      HimanshuJoshi
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      Dario Solera wrote:

      there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website

      You mean to say that CP is bad looking?

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        Dario Solera wrote:

        there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website

        You mean to say that CP is bad looking?

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        Dario Solera
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        HimanshuJoshi wrote:

        You mean to say that CP is bad looking?

        Not so ugly, but it could use some improvements. :-D

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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          When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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          Smithers Jones
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          Dario Solera wrote:

          Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

          Yes. :) But seriously: If I don't like the look'n'feel of a website, I leave it, if I am not absolutely depending on something on this website. Being a nitpicker myself, you have my total sympathy. I can't stand it, when colleagues don't format their documents properly and give those poorly formatted stuff to others, especially to outsiders. For me it's a question of honour to have my stuff done properly and also I want it to have an acceptable appearance that'pleasant to the eye.

          "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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            When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            Dario Solera wrote:

            An example of an ugly website:

            After you mentioned that a particular site was ugly it appeared ugly to me. Try removing your inference and let users decide which site they find ugly and hwich site they find beautiful. :)

            Dario Solera wrote:

            is it the same for everyone else?

            I think usability matters more than aesthetics. If I find what I need quickly, then I do not really care about the site aesthetics. In fact that does not even bother me. I think it is same for most people.

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              Dario Solera wrote:

              Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

              Yes. :) But seriously: If I don't like the look'n'feel of a website, I leave it, if I am not absolutely depending on something on this website. Being a nitpicker myself, you have my total sympathy. I can't stand it, when colleagues don't format their documents properly and give those poorly formatted stuff to others, especially to outsiders. For me it's a question of honour to have my stuff done properly and also I want it to have an acceptable appearance that'pleasant to the eye.

              "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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              Dario Solera
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              Smithers-Jones wrote:

              For me it's a question of honour to have my stuff done properly and also I want it to have an acceptable appearance that'pleasant to the eye.

              Same here! That's why I'm paranoid about valid XHTML (admittedly, I don't validate CSS, but just because too much cool stuff is not yet standard).

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                Dario Solera wrote:

                An example of an ugly website:

                After you mentioned that a particular site was ugly it appeared ugly to me. Try removing your inference and let users decide which site they find ugly and hwich site they find beautiful. :)

                Dario Solera wrote:

                is it the same for everyone else?

                I think usability matters more than aesthetics. If I find what I need quickly, then I do not really care about the site aesthetics. In fact that does not even bother me. I think it is same for most people.

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                Dario Solera
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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                I think usability matters more than aesthetics.

                Think about it: when you look at something, if it's good-looking then it's also quite usable. My old boss used to say that if something is beautiful, then not only it works, but it's also usable. Of course, that's a bit too simplistic, but yet again if something is aesthetically-pleasing, then your brain is probably more inclined to understand how it works.

                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                  I think usability matters more than aesthetics.

                  Think about it: when you look at something, if it's good-looking then it's also quite usable. My old boss used to say that if something is beautiful, then not only it works, but it's also usable. Of course, that's a bit too simplistic, but yet again if something is aesthetically-pleasing, then your brain is probably more inclined to understand how it works.

                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                  Dario Solera wrote:

                  if something is beautiful, then not only it works, but it's also usable

                  So, I can use Salma Hayek? Yippee.

                  I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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                    When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Looking only at the front pages, I found the first two equally OK. I do not like the bright shiney style used by the third; the message I get from it is "all beauty, not brains".

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      Dario Solera wrote:

                      if something is beautiful, then not only it works, but it's also usable

                      So, I can use Salma Hayek? Yippee.

                      I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                      Dario Solera
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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      So, I can use Salma Hayek? Yippee.

                      Of course. If you can get to her. :-D

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                        Dario Solera wrote:

                        if something is beautiful, then not only it works, but it's also usable

                        So, I can use Salma Hayek? Yippee.

                        I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        Yayozama
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                        Both of them!

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                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                          Yes. :) But seriously: If I don't like the look'n'feel of a website, I leave it, if I am not absolutely depending on something on this website. Being a nitpicker myself, you have my total sympathy. I can't stand it, when colleagues don't format their documents properly and give those poorly formatted stuff to others, especially to outsiders. For me it's a question of honour to have my stuff done properly and also I want it to have an acceptable appearance that'pleasant to the eye.

                          "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                          Electron Shepherd
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                          Smithers-Jones wrote:

                          I can't stand it, when colleagues don't format their documents properly and give those poorly formatted stuff to others

                          or add in unnecessary punctuation and use bad grammar

                          Smithers-Jones wrote:

                          that'pleasant to the eye.

                          or miss out letters

                          Smithers-Jones wrote:

                          Being a nitpicker myself

                          Me too, in case you hadn't guessed :)

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                            Looking only at the front pages, I found the first two equally OK. I do not like the bright shiney style used by the third; the message I get from it is "all beauty, not brains".

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            Electron Shepherd
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                            The design brief for the third one was "Make the top bar look like Apple's site, but not too much"

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                              When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                              Electron Shepherd
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                              Dario Solera wrote:

                              An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/\[^\]

                              Shame they chose beauty over working JavaScript: http://www.codebasehq.com/users[^]

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                                Dario Solera wrote:

                                An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/\[^\]

                                Shame they chose beauty over working JavaScript: http://www.codebasehq.com/users[^]

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                                Dario Solera
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                                Uh?

                                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                  Uh?

                                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                  Electron Shepherd
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                                  I get a "console undefined" error from twitter.js

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                                    I get a "console undefined" error from twitter.js

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                                    Dario Solera
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                                    Works fine for me, anyway, that was just an example, it doesn't mean the website is perfect (there's no such thing).

                                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                      When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                      Esthetics are very personal – what appeals to one does not necessarily appeal to another. "Pretty" is defined differently by different groups. What appeals to engineers may not appeal to graphic artists and visa versa. Even within a similar group of users, “pretty” changes over time. Remember when animated gif’s were the definition of “cool”? Personally I found very little difference in the esthetic appeal of the three sites – far more important to me is usability. i.e. Can I find the information I want? Eyecandy is usually a distraction and a waste of bandwidth as far as I am concerned. I am sure CP would welcome your offer to redesign the site. Perhaps the users could vote on the changes!

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                                        When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                        Dario Solera wrote:

                                        Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                                        Yes! I don't have any issue with all of your exhibits. Beuaity is in the eye of the .... My priorities are Functionality: Does the website has the infomration I am looking for. I can tolerate its ugliness Usability: Can I get what I am looking for easily. Yea you may be pretty, if I can't locate the crown jewel who cares Beauty: Who does not like sexy looking sites. Did I mention I am aesthetically challenged? [Edit] I hate it when I write "can" when I meant is "can't"

                                        Yusuf May I help you?

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                                          When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                                          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                          Richard A Dalton
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                                          I certainly wouldn't run away from any of the three sites you linked to. If you thought the first site was so ugly that you would immediately disregard it, then yes, you are crazy. But there are meds for that. Sadly most of the people selling meds on the interweb have crap websites, so your illness will go untreated, you'll eventually cut off your ear and die broke, alone, and worst of all, aurally unbalanced, thus ruining the look and feel of your head. Ah well. -Rd

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