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  • D Dan Neely

    Looking only at the front pages, I found the first two equally OK. I do not like the bright shiney style used by the third; the message I get from it is "all beauty, not brains".

    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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    Electron Shepherd
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    The design brief for the third one was "Make the top bar look like Apple's site, but not too much"

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    • D Dario Solera

      When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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      Electron Shepherd
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      Dario Solera wrote:

      An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/\[^\]

      Shame they chose beauty over working JavaScript: http://www.codebasehq.com/users[^]

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        Dario Solera wrote:

        An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/\[^\]

        Shame they chose beauty over working JavaScript: http://www.codebasehq.com/users[^]

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        Dario Solera
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        Uh?

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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        • D Dario Solera

          Uh?

          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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          Electron Shepherd
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          I get a "console undefined" error from twitter.js

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            I get a "console undefined" error from twitter.js

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            Dario Solera
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            Works fine for me, anyway, that was just an example, it doesn't mean the website is perfect (there's no such thing).

            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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            • D Dario Solera

              When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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              Snowman58
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              Esthetics are very personal – what appeals to one does not necessarily appeal to another. "Pretty" is defined differently by different groups. What appeals to engineers may not appeal to graphic artists and visa versa. Even within a similar group of users, “pretty” changes over time. Remember when animated gif’s were the definition of “cool”? Personally I found very little difference in the esthetic appeal of the three sites – far more important to me is usability. i.e. Can I find the information I want? Eyecandy is usually a distraction and a waste of bandwidth as far as I am concerned. I am sure CP would welcome your offer to redesign the site. Perhaps the users could vote on the changes!

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              • D Dario Solera

                When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                Dario Solera wrote:

                Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                Yes! I don't have any issue with all of your exhibits. Beuaity is in the eye of the .... My priorities are Functionality: Does the website has the infomration I am looking for. I can tolerate its ugliness Usability: Can I get what I am looking for easily. Yea you may be pretty, if I can't locate the crown jewel who cares Beauty: Who does not like sexy looking sites. Did I mention I am aesthetically challenged? [Edit] I hate it when I write "can" when I meant is "can't"

                Yusuf May I help you?

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                • D Dario Solera

                  When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                  Richard A Dalton
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                  I certainly wouldn't run away from any of the three sites you linked to. If you thought the first site was so ugly that you would immediately disregard it, then yes, you are crazy. But there are meds for that. Sadly most of the people selling meds on the interweb have crap websites, so your illness will go untreated, you'll eventually cut off your ear and die broke, alone, and worst of all, aurally unbalanced, thus ruining the look and feel of your head. Ah well. -Rd

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                  • D Dario Solera

                    When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                    Brady Kelly
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                    I agree. I don't always want to sit staring in awe and wonder at a beautiful site, but I try to avoid using those that assault my eyes. If Multilizer is your example of bad, though, I can show you some real horrors.

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                      When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                      GenJerDan
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                      My current hate-the-look website is FM 107.3[^] (NSFW, probably) To me, it looks like a 16-year-old's MySpace page. I can't tell which are internal links, which are advertisements going who-knows-where, and generally looks like they tried to cram as much as possible into the smallest space possible. :laugh: We don't need no stinkin' links.

                      modified on Thursday, October 7, 2010 2:03 PM

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                        I agree. I don't always want to sit staring in awe and wonder at a beautiful site, but I try to avoid using those that assault my eyes. If Multilizer is your example of bad, though, I can show you some real horrors.

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                        Dario Solera
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                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                        I can show you some real horrors.

                        Yes please!

                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                        • G GenJerDan

                          My current hate-the-look website is FM 107.3[^] (NSFW, probably) To me, it looks like a 16-year-old's MySpace page. I can't tell which are internal links, which are advertisements going who-knows-where, and generally looks like they tried to cram as much as possible into the smallest space possible. :laugh: We don't need no stinkin' links.

                          modified on Thursday, October 7, 2010 2:03 PM

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                          Yayozama
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                          I've seen some ascii art that are NSFW... but never "[]"...

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                            I've seen some ascii art that are NSFW... but never "[]"...

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                            Dario Solera
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                            :laugh:

                            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                              Works fine for me, anyway, that was just an example, it doesn't mean the website is perfect (there's no such thing).

                              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              Maybe you are running Firebug, and there is actually a Console object in the browser window that hosts that script, and Electron here isn't running Firebug, and lastly, the codebasehq devs didn't remove there debug script.

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                                I've seen some ascii art that are NSFW... but never "[]"...

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                                GenJerDan
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                                That's ASCII art of SpongeBob's butt.

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                                • D Dario Solera

                                  When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                  Member 96
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                                  Hmm...they all look kind of ugly to me but in general I sense your aesthetics are weighted heavily towards what was popular in years past. I submit that an example of a great looking modern website is something like this: http://www.coffeecup.com/[^] Ignoring for the moment the giant countdown clock on the main page. It's got large clean graphics and lots of whitespace and not too much text.


                                  “If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                                    Dario Solera wrote:

                                    Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                                    Yes! I don't have any issue with all of your exhibits. Beuaity is in the eye of the .... My priorities are Functionality: Does the website has the infomration I am looking for. I can tolerate its ugliness Usability: Can I get what I am looking for easily. Yea you may be pretty, if I can't locate the crown jewel who cares Beauty: Who does not like sexy looking sites. Did I mention I am aesthetically challenged? [Edit] I hate it when I write "can" when I meant is "can't"

                                    Yusuf May I help you?

                                    modified on Thursday, October 7, 2010 2:51 PM

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                                    Xiangyang Liu
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                                    Yusuf wrote:

                                    Yes!

                                    "Yes" he is completely crazy or "Yes" you are both completely crazy? :-D

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                                      Yusuf wrote:

                                      Yes!

                                      "Yes" he is completely crazy or "Yes" you are both completely crazy? :-D

                                      My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                                      Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

                                      "Yes" he is completely crazy or "Yes" you are both completely crazy?

                                      Yes :laugh:

                                      Yusuf May I help you?

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                                      • D Dario Solera

                                        When browsing the Internet, perhaps looking for something specific, I have found myself often landing on poorly-built pages. Mind you, poorly-built only from an aesthetics point of view. My immediate reaction is to simply go away and look for something else. I don't even spend a minute actually reading the website to see if it fits my needs. Perhaps this kind of behavior derives from being in charge of our website (and everything else) at my company (and also being a chronic nit-picker), but I believe that if you can't spend some time working on your website to make it somewhat good-looking, then you don't deserve my time. Your users/customers deserve usability and even some eyecandy. If you don't agree, then you don't deserve your users. Of course, there are exceptions (like CP), and cases when you simply can't avoid using a bad-looking website, but the feeling is still there. The same applies to desktop and mobile apps. Ugly UI -> I run away immediately. An example of an ugly website: http://www2.multilizer.com/[^] An example of a not-so-ugly website: http://www.hosted-projects.com/[^] An example of beautiful website: http://www.codebasehq.com/[^] (I'm not affiliated with any of the three) Am I completely crazy or is it the same for everyone else?

                                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup

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                                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                        Some of the lazy webmasters don't manage to update the copyright on the footer too. I see a few websites reflecting copyright text as 2002 still. And this one turned out to be a very famous software company in Chennai.

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                                          Some of the lazy webmasters don't manage to update the copyright on the footer too. I see a few websites reflecting copyright text as 2002 still. And this one turned out to be a very famous software company in Chennai.

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                                          The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep!

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Which I don't understand. My sites are all ASP.Net and it's a very simple process to generate the copyright text in code-behind so it's always up-to-date. I'm sure it's equally simple to do it in any other technology. Cheers, Drew.

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