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    Lost User
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    Do you know what IDocs are? No, nothing from Apple. IDocs are used by SAP to exchange relational data. Each IDoc (of which there are many different types) consists of text lines, known as segments. The segments contain data fields and so represent something like a data row. Now, one would think that there was some defined way to model relations between the segments. Nope. Every type of IDoc does this in its own way. I found even variants where the segments don't even contain the keys with which I could assign them to one of the other segments. That would have been too easy, guessing is much more fun. And now I had to discover that adding one more field may change the entire structure and the types of segments occuring in the IDoc. Unfortunately I was given the hopeless task to build a parser for data import from SAP and those unpredictable rules make this very ... interesting. Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

    A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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      Do you know what IDocs are? No, nothing from Apple. IDocs are used by SAP to exchange relational data. Each IDoc (of which there are many different types) consists of text lines, known as segments. The segments contain data fields and so represent something like a data row. Now, one would think that there was some defined way to model relations between the segments. Nope. Every type of IDoc does this in its own way. I found even variants where the segments don't even contain the keys with which I could assign them to one of the other segments. That would have been too easy, guessing is much more fun. And now I had to discover that adding one more field may change the entire structure and the types of segments occuring in the IDoc. Unfortunately I was given the hopeless task to build a parser for data import from SAP and those unpredictable rules make this very ... interesting. Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

      A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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      Chris Meech
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      everyday. It's trying to overtake Notes on the suck scale, but still has a way to go. :)

      Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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        Do you know what IDocs are? No, nothing from Apple. IDocs are used by SAP to exchange relational data. Each IDoc (of which there are many different types) consists of text lines, known as segments. The segments contain data fields and so represent something like a data row. Now, one would think that there was some defined way to model relations between the segments. Nope. Every type of IDoc does this in its own way. I found even variants where the segments don't even contain the keys with which I could assign them to one of the other segments. That would have been too easy, guessing is much more fun. And now I had to discover that adding one more field may change the entire structure and the types of segments occuring in the IDoc. Unfortunately I was given the hopeless task to build a parser for data import from SAP and those unpredictable rules make this very ... interesting. Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

        A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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        NormDroid
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        CDP1802 wrote:

        Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns

        I don't know about that, but I hear you get paid £££££ for doing SAP work.

        Software Kinetics - Moving Software

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          Do you know what IDocs are? No, nothing from Apple. IDocs are used by SAP to exchange relational data. Each IDoc (of which there are many different types) consists of text lines, known as segments. The segments contain data fields and so represent something like a data row. Now, one would think that there was some defined way to model relations between the segments. Nope. Every type of IDoc does this in its own way. I found even variants where the segments don't even contain the keys with which I could assign them to one of the other segments. That would have been too easy, guessing is much more fun. And now I had to discover that adding one more field may change the entire structure and the types of segments occuring in the IDoc. Unfortunately I was given the hopeless task to build a parser for data import from SAP and those unpredictable rules make this very ... interesting. Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

          A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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          CDP1802 wrote:

          Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

          That would be in house.

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            CDP1802 wrote:

            Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns

            I don't know about that, but I hear you get paid £££££ for doing SAP work.

            Software Kinetics - Moving Software

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            Lost User
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            No €€€€€€€€€ in the world could convince me to push around numbers in such a clumsy, overweight system. The tiny little details you have to know before being able to do any work at all make this look more like the famous Spanish Court Protocol. In the end you can't spend your money, because you end up in a mental institution.

            A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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              CDP1802 wrote:

              Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

              That would be in house.

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              NormDroid
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              :laugh:

              Software Kinetics - Moving Software

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                CDP1802 wrote:

                Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

                That would be in house.

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                SimulationofSai
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                :laugh: You beat me to it.

                SG Aham Brahmasmi!

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                  Do you know what IDocs are? No, nothing from Apple. IDocs are used by SAP to exchange relational data. Each IDoc (of which there are many different types) consists of text lines, known as segments. The segments contain data fields and so represent something like a data row. Now, one would think that there was some defined way to model relations between the segments. Nope. Every type of IDoc does this in its own way. I found even variants where the segments don't even contain the keys with which I could assign them to one of the other segments. That would have been too easy, guessing is much more fun. And now I had to discover that adding one more field may change the entire structure and the types of segments occuring in the IDoc. Unfortunately I was given the hopeless task to build a parser for data import from SAP and those unpredictable rules make this very ... interesting. Does SAP outsource work to mental asylumns?

                  A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                  SAP is one of the suckiest sucky things in existence. I hate it. (from an end user POV). I mean, how $hit is a maintenance management system that cannot schedule the next due date of a planned maintenance routine based on the closure of the one undertaken....FFS thats a basic function of a MMS. SAP = SLOWS ALL PROCESSES

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                    SAP is one of the suckiest sucky things in existence. I hate it. (from an end user POV). I mean, how $hit is a maintenance management system that cannot schedule the next due date of a planned maintenance routine based on the closure of the one undertaken....FFS thats a basic function of a MMS. SAP = SLOWS ALL PROCESSES

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                    Well, at least we now know where all the authors of the strange things we get to see in the Code Horrors board work now :)

                    A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                      SAP is one of the suckiest sucky things in existence. I hate it. (from an end user POV). I mean, how $hit is a maintenance management system that cannot schedule the next due date of a planned maintenance routine based on the closure of the one undertaken....FFS thats a basic function of a MMS. SAP = SLOWS ALL PROCESSES

                      Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn CPRepWatcher now available as Packaged Chrome Extension, visit my articles for link.

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      DaveAuld wrote:

                      SAP = SLOWS ALL PROCESSES

                      There might be some truth to that statement :)

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