Anyone getting tired of todays video games?
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
If you have a decent PC, then I would heartily recommend the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. trilogy of games. Shadow of Chernobyl is the first and probably my favorite game of all time. Clear Sky is the next, and Call of Prypiat the last (and my least favourite) of the series. Shadow of Chernobyl takes a bit of getting into, but once you understand what you have to do it is one of the most addictive and atmospheric games I have ever played - don't let the first map put you off, it's meant to be a bit boring as it's teaches you the ropes etc. The difficulty level is pretty steep as well, get shot in the head and you die - even on the easiest settings. You die a lot, and if you don't plan attacks and take enough ammo with you, you haven't got a chance :) If you haven't it played before, buy a copy - it's only £5 or so from Amazon. Also download and install the 'Stalker xxx Complete' mods for each game (I don't think Call of Prypiat Complete' is out yet, but no matter) - which are free and written by fans of the series. The 'Complete' series of mods upgrade the graphics and fix any left over bugs in the gameplay that were left by the developers. OT: I can't stand the Call of Duty franchise - it's boring run and gun, no tactics, no thinking required. Just follow your designated path and shoot. Booooorrrrrrring. STALKER is just so different I love it. I'm playing Clear Sky through again now for the third time, with the 'Complete' mod installed - it's like falling in love again. And after I played 'Medal of Honor' at the weekend over at a mates, I know I'm not missing anything! :)
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
Yes, sick and tired. There was a time when I could not leave a store without some new fodder for the computer, but this has gotten less and less. 'Dumbed down' is a good way to describe what has happened. Also, they keep on making the same stuff over and over again and the only progress seems to be better graphics and more simplistic gameplay. And then there are those online games. Nothing against that, except that they have taken all the fun out of it and turned the whole thing in an endless competition against other players. They make their paying customers work hard to keep whatever they have accomplished in the game, so that they invest more and more time. Sorry, but if I want some real challenges and some stress, then I go see my boss and tell him that I'm bored. At least he does not yet want me to pay for that.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
Me and my friends still play Total Annihilation[^] occasionally. If your only 19 you may never have heard of it. It's a top down isometric RTS. It's got a kind of 3d physics though for the missiles and explosions. It's network code is a bit sketchy, so we only really play when we meet up for an old style "LAN party". (LAN party's were what we had back in the old day before the inter-tubes were invented.) The great thing about it though is that although it's over 10 years old, they had the foresight to make the resolution scale up to whatever your running, so it still looks all right on a new pc with a nice high res screen.
Simon
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I have a arcade cab in my garage, the kids love it, it's good 100W Speakers. I have the volume on full belt so everyone down the street can hear it.
That is some retro awesomeness :laugh:
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Battletoads needs to be brought back. One of the most challenging games ever but you'd rather slash your own wrists than admit defeat because you *can* just make it away from that stupid boulder coming at you. I still preferred FF6 though. Although 2 was amusing where you could build your party's stats up by making them hit each other while a single bewildered goblin looks on.
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That is because, you are playing wrong games. Try "Battlefield Bad Company 2". It's epic game. solid single player campaign, and even awesome multilayer experience. The sound recording is unmatched, every gun will sound just real. Graphics are top of the line. you will need a very high end graphics card to play it. Overall it is satisfying game. watch some game-play videos on YouTube, and you can always buy cheaper at Steam. :) The game is hard to play, you cannot just run and gun here. also team work is very important, solo cannot win the match, no matter how good you are. Vehicles are also nice addition to the game. I played the beta of Medal of Honor and it was frustrating. they tried to make Battlefield Bad Company like Call of the Duty - Modern Warfare 2. and they have failed in both the sides. :) OT: It's raining 5 votes here... :omg:
Rutvik Dave wrote:
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Cant stand that game :laugh: Just as bad, if not worse than the COD series :) All the characters are predictable "samish" and will try to force there "attitude" the same way throughout and the graphics I didn't find anything special :laugh: Then I realise that all this fog and sand is here for a reason, probably to hide its low texture resolution! My house mate played that game to death at one point, I was just satisfied by the campaign mode... Thanks :laugh:
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
venomation wrote:
I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
It's a good plan, looking to other genres entirely. There always seems to be a huge push on FPS's, certainly in the States where there's a larger market share of 360s, in the East, more focus on RPGs. Wii is prevalent because the control system means that they were able to bring a completely fresh way to play games. It depends what you're in to really, I've certainly noticed that there are peaks and troughs in releases so you're probabyl perceiving a personal trough in the titles. This could be down to shoddiness or jsut the fact that they don't bring anything new. I am looking forward to seeing how Bioshock Infinite pans out. Could do with another Borderlands DLC too because the Robolution got put down fast. Also Yakuza of The End. Most zombie games rely on guns. Yakuza laughs at these and says the best way to deal with any enemy is pulling their teeth out with pliers or double broadsword beatings.
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Just stick with the best. Newer = extra bloat and extra silly, fiddly features, but no extra zing (so what don't it mean?) Get this[^], to upgrade the graphics, etc, and go here[^] to download new maps (wads) -- or you can ftp about a zillion wads directly from ID Software FOC.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Brilliant getting the wads now :P Thanks :-D
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If you have a decent PC, then I would heartily recommend the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. trilogy of games. Shadow of Chernobyl is the first and probably my favorite game of all time. Clear Sky is the next, and Call of Prypiat the last (and my least favourite) of the series. Shadow of Chernobyl takes a bit of getting into, but once you understand what you have to do it is one of the most addictive and atmospheric games I have ever played - don't let the first map put you off, it's meant to be a bit boring as it's teaches you the ropes etc. The difficulty level is pretty steep as well, get shot in the head and you die - even on the easiest settings. You die a lot, and if you don't plan attacks and take enough ammo with you, you haven't got a chance :) If you haven't it played before, buy a copy - it's only £5 or so from Amazon. Also download and install the 'Stalker xxx Complete' mods for each game (I don't think Call of Prypiat Complete' is out yet, but no matter) - which are free and written by fans of the series. The 'Complete' series of mods upgrade the graphics and fix any left over bugs in the gameplay that were left by the developers. OT: I can't stand the Call of Duty franchise - it's boring run and gun, no tactics, no thinking required. Just follow your designated path and shoot. Booooorrrrrrring. STALKER is just so different I love it. I'm playing Clear Sky through again now for the third time, with the 'Complete' mod installed - it's like falling in love again. And after I played 'Medal of Honor' at the weekend over at a mates, I know I'm not missing anything! :)
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
Shadow of Chernobyl
Dam right that game was one of my best fps moments ! But couldn't play it without a certain mod, cant remember what it is but added loads of new stuff. Call of Prypiat is good, took me longer to get into though :doh: Thanks :-D
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Yes, sick and tired. There was a time when I could not leave a store without some new fodder for the computer, but this has gotten less and less. 'Dumbed down' is a good way to describe what has happened. Also, they keep on making the same stuff over and over again and the only progress seems to be better graphics and more simplistic gameplay. And then there are those online games. Nothing against that, except that they have taken all the fun out of it and turned the whole thing in an endless competition against other players. They make their paying customers work hard to keep whatever they have accomplished in the game, so that they invest more and more time. Sorry, but if I want some real challenges and some stress, then I go see my boss and tell him that I'm bored. At least he does not yet want me to pay for that.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
CDP1802 wrote:
online games
I have several game design books that state that a "game without a goal is a flawed game" - If only the consumers realized xD :-D Thanks :)
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
Most of my gaming time nowdays is occupied with classics which I bought from Good Old Games[^]. In case you weren't already aware of this digital distribution service, check it out. It's too good for words. Keep an eye for the weekend promos too.
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Me and my friends still play Total Annihilation[^] occasionally. If your only 19 you may never have heard of it. It's a top down isometric RTS. It's got a kind of 3d physics though for the missiles and explosions. It's network code is a bit sketchy, so we only really play when we meet up for an old style "LAN party". (LAN party's were what we had back in the old day before the inter-tubes were invented.) The great thing about it though is that although it's over 10 years old, they had the foresight to make the resolution scale up to whatever your running, so it still looks all right on a new pc with a nice high res screen.
Simon
I have heard of that game but never played it, I shall give it a go soon ! Thanks :-D
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I stopped bothering with new stuff after Transport Tycoon Deluxe. Getting it working under Windows 7 was a very happy day. Unfortunately now my monitor is visible to others at work I have far less time to play it.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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CDP1802 wrote:
online games
I have several game design books that state that a "game without a goal is a flawed game" - If only the consumers realized xD :-D Thanks :)
I know somebody who cannot work anymore because of an illness. Years ago he proclaimed that he will never pay for online games. Now he plays them all day, only interrupted by the little sleep his illness permits. He actually has a schedule where and when he and his 'allies' have to go in the game to get the optimal amount of experience points (or whatever) every day. And when I visited him for the last time before moving away he did not have time for me. He had just gathered his 'friends' and started some very important attack on (insert uninteresting bla bla here). This is scary and I have no interest in ending like this.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
And another thing: My favorite game still is Visual Studio. Endless levels with difficulties from trivial to super genius :) And the greatest adventure is still writing a game of your own.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P
Tend to mostly agree. Bugs me when Monte Cristo released Cities XL (a city builder sim like SimCity) the game had so many bugs and rather than fixing them or adding something useful like the ability to rename streets and buildings they wasted god knows how long on adding loads of really annoying xmas decorations that appear throughout December (bogging everyones computer down btw and generally being excessive and annoying). And then essential things like buses were charged as a monthly fee on top of the initial price of the game. I recently went in Game to hunt for Crysis but as they didn't have it ended up getting C&C 4 instead to see that series has been completely messed up. I used to love C&C Generals but now they've got rid of the base so its basically just units fighting each other, buying the units is free (though you can only have a limited number at any one time) and it's basically turned into some annoying domination game that just includes the worst bits from the previous games and scraps anything that was any good. Plus even when playing against the computer if you're net connection goes down part way through your progress isn't saved, so you basically lose the game.
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I am 19 so a lot of the games on the market i.e. "Medal Of Honour 2010" is aimed at my age group however... I think most games today (console and pc) just tend to annoy me , for example the "Call Of Duty" series: *Since Call of Duty Treyarch Series it went down hill, only the engine is updated but each increment game tends to become even more dumbed down (crosshair gets bigger, less recoil on guns, easier AI, infact by COD MW2 they removed the "Infinite spawning AI" completly)... *Graphics improve for mostly useless (my opinion) factors such as huge explosion effects that may had taken a month or so to direct when they could had improved in game bugs or just made it more authentic? *Large focus on multi player (actually CODMW2's multi player lobby's and such were very good apart from no dedicated servers!) tends to make allot of money for game developers , so much that they "glorify" endless 1990's death match style games to "reward" the player with game mechanic changing perks (such as better weapons) *The "Arcade" feel increases throughout... *I get 12 year old's shout verbal abuse at me for defeating them! (there is no more honour :( ) Other games such as GTAIV and even some modern racing games PGR4 are nothing new any-more, just improved eye candy but the game play is the same as before and in many cases (such with GTAIV) gets dumbed down and focuses on making it as linear and mainstream as possible! Sure I may had enjoyed these spoken games four 3or more hours but many take them to a new level of "game addiction"... And because of it more and more garbage games are released on the market and nothing really exciting is coming out either - I feel doomed! Just to show that I am not some fan boy having a rant, the game "Brink" coming out soon looks good, but I can guarantee absolutely no new content from it. I watched some videos of it and saw a feature that allows you to do some impressive "environmental interactive" abilities such as "Jump over a trap" or "slide under some obstacle" - Hasn't "Mirrors Edge" and other games owned this already? I now focus on "Indy" games such as "Defence Grid" and "Briad" as they offer something "new". :P