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    Henry Minute
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    List[^] I've never been to Vegas but can imagine it being as described. Although I would not even think of going there for a vacation longer than one day unless I wanted to play poker. The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure, you could simply walk up to the henge, touch the stones or sit on them if you wanted to. I found it a strangely haunting place. Unless you are a Geologist, Archeologist or similar, though, I would find it hard to imagine a visit of more than about an hour remaining interesting. I have been to Paris many times. I had no problems with queues at the Louvre itself nor in viewing The Mona Lisa. However, in my many visits I have never had the patience to endure the wait for the Eiffel Tower. Totally agree with the Madame Tussauds or any wax-works, for that matter. Anyone any experience of the other attractions, particularly times to visit to avoid queues.

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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      List[^] I've never been to Vegas but can imagine it being as described. Although I would not even think of going there for a vacation longer than one day unless I wanted to play poker. The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure, you could simply walk up to the henge, touch the stones or sit on them if you wanted to. I found it a strangely haunting place. Unless you are a Geologist, Archeologist or similar, though, I would find it hard to imagine a visit of more than about an hour remaining interesting. I have been to Paris many times. I had no problems with queues at the Louvre itself nor in viewing The Mona Lisa. However, in my many visits I have never had the patience to endure the wait for the Eiffel Tower. Totally agree with the Madame Tussauds or any wax-works, for that matter. Anyone any experience of the other attractions, particularly times to visit to avoid queues.

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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      Henry Minute wrote:

      The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure

      Yeah, but you helped to build it didn't you? :rolleyes: :-D

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        Henry Minute wrote:

        The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure

        Yeah, but you helped to build it didn't you? :rolleyes: :-D

        Ali

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        Alison P wrote:

        Yeah, but you helped to build it didn't you?

        No I did not! :mad: They did that on my day off. ;P

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          List[^] I've never been to Vegas but can imagine it being as described. Although I would not even think of going there for a vacation longer than one day unless I wanted to play poker. The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure, you could simply walk up to the henge, touch the stones or sit on them if you wanted to. I found it a strangely haunting place. Unless you are a Geologist, Archeologist or similar, though, I would find it hard to imagine a visit of more than about an hour remaining interesting. I have been to Paris many times. I had no problems with queues at the Louvre itself nor in viewing The Mona Lisa. However, in my many visits I have never had the patience to endure the wait for the Eiffel Tower. Totally agree with the Madame Tussauds or any wax-works, for that matter. Anyone any experience of the other attractions, particularly times to visit to avoid queues.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Veags is fun if only because ou get to see so many weird and tacky chavs walking around adult Disney. Agree with some of them though zipwiring was good fun. The Eiffel tower was okay but if you want to see a city from a tall building go to NY or Chicago. Most of the places are worth an hour of your time.

          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            Alison P wrote:

            Yeah, but you helped to build it didn't you?

            No I did not! :mad: They did that on my day off. ;P

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            When I lived in Larkhill (A tiny place near Amesbury) I would pass Stonehenge every day. I always thought to myself,"It's just a bunch of Stones" and never visited it. Many years later, I went there properly and paid up and wandered around with the 'informative' headphones. And I was awestruck. Mainly by the sheer effrontery of being charged good money to walk around what turned out to be "Just a bunch of Stones".

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              Veags is fun if only because ou get to see so many weird and tacky chavs walking around adult Disney. Agree with some of them though zipwiring was good fun. The Eiffel tower was okay but if you want to see a city from a tall building go to NY or Chicago. Most of the places are worth an hour of your time.

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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              The best place to see Paris from is the top of Sacre Coeur on Mont Marte.(The Mountain of Mars!) Long walk up though!

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                List[^] I've never been to Vegas but can imagine it being as described. Although I would not even think of going there for a vacation longer than one day unless I wanted to play poker. The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure, you could simply walk up to the henge, touch the stones or sit on them if you wanted to. I found it a strangely haunting place. Unless you are a Geologist, Archeologist or similar, though, I would find it hard to imagine a visit of more than about an hour remaining interesting. I have been to Paris many times. I had no problems with queues at the Louvre itself nor in viewing The Mona Lisa. However, in my many visits I have never had the patience to endure the wait for the Eiffel Tower. Totally agree with the Madame Tussauds or any wax-works, for that matter. Anyone any experience of the other attractions, particularly times to visit to avoid queues.

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                I agree with you that the queues for the Eiffel Tower are ridiculously long. I have often been there and said to myself: "Nah, I won't bother today". But on the occasions when I have taken the times to wait in line, I must say that I think the view from the tower is unbeatable. And I think that it is a must for first time visitors to Paris. I voted for the Eiffel tower in the "new 7 wonders of the world"[^] "competition", but unluckily it didn't place... However, if you can do with a little less, I can also recommend the view from the Sacre Coeur!

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                  The best place to see Paris from is the top of Sacre Coeur on Mont Marte.(The Mountain of Mars!) Long walk up though!

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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Long walk up though!

                  Only for the old and the handicapped Daleks... ;P One warning, though: Be careful of street "merchants" trying to scam you up there...

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                    List[^] I've never been to Vegas but can imagine it being as described. Although I would not even think of going there for a vacation longer than one day unless I wanted to play poker. The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure, you could simply walk up to the henge, touch the stones or sit on them if you wanted to. I found it a strangely haunting place. Unless you are a Geologist, Archeologist or similar, though, I would find it hard to imagine a visit of more than about an hour remaining interesting. I have been to Paris many times. I had no problems with queues at the Louvre itself nor in viewing The Mona Lisa. However, in my many visits I have never had the patience to endure the wait for the Eiffel Tower. Totally agree with the Madame Tussauds or any wax-works, for that matter. Anyone any experience of the other attractions, particularly times to visit to avoid queues.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    My Wife's PhD supervisor was the "administrator" in charge of Stonehenge for a while. In one of those curious bits 'o' serendipity his name was Peter Stone. In my view there are too many tourist "facilities" there now. A big wire fence surrounds the site, spoiling it. Worse, the've put gravel paths down, all to "protect the archaeology" whilst at the same time damaging the site. To gain access you mus find the entance on the other side of the road, pay a silly amount of cash then you get one of those audio guides that has everyone walking around like zombies. All this detracts from what must have been a fantastic site. I refused to pay entry as this effectively supports what they have done, and excludes poorer people from visiting the site, you can see the henge from the roadside. The road running beside the henge is the subject of much Arts'n'Culture'n'Heritage Mafia navel-gazing. The road is apparently essential in Wiltshire, and re-routing it is near-impossible. There was a serious proposal to run a tunnel deep under the site (the vibration won't be strong enough to damageit) but it was projected to cost £200m in the 90s. One of the criticisms of this plan is that it would cut off all access, except through English Heritage.

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                      My Wife's PhD supervisor was the "administrator" in charge of Stonehenge for a while. In one of those curious bits 'o' serendipity his name was Peter Stone. In my view there are too many tourist "facilities" there now. A big wire fence surrounds the site, spoiling it. Worse, the've put gravel paths down, all to "protect the archaeology" whilst at the same time damaging the site. To gain access you mus find the entance on the other side of the road, pay a silly amount of cash then you get one of those audio guides that has everyone walking around like zombies. All this detracts from what must have been a fantastic site. I refused to pay entry as this effectively supports what they have done, and excludes poorer people from visiting the site, you can see the henge from the roadside. The road running beside the henge is the subject of much Arts'n'Culture'n'Heritage Mafia navel-gazing. The road is apparently essential in Wiltshire, and re-routing it is near-impossible. There was a serious proposal to run a tunnel deep under the site (the vibration won't be strong enough to damageit) but it was projected to cost £200m in the 90s. One of the criticisms of this plan is that it would cut off all access, except through English Heritage.

                      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                      Peter Stone? Peter as in The Rock, from the Greek, Petros? So he was a Rock and a Stone?

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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        Long walk up though!

                        Only for the old and the handicapped Daleks... ;P One warning, though: Be careful of street "merchants" trying to scam you up there...

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                        Scam? Managed to get a possibly stolen lighter from 60 francs to 10 francs from some dude around there. Was a bit more in a proper shop but I was a broke high school student back then. But have to agree, Sacre Coeur did offer the best view of Paris.

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                          List[^] I've never been to Vegas but can imagine it being as described. Although I would not even think of going there for a vacation longer than one day unless I wanted to play poker. The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure, you could simply walk up to the henge, touch the stones or sit on them if you wanted to. I found it a strangely haunting place. Unless you are a Geologist, Archeologist or similar, though, I would find it hard to imagine a visit of more than about an hour remaining interesting. I have been to Paris many times. I had no problems with queues at the Louvre itself nor in viewing The Mona Lisa. However, in my many visits I have never had the patience to endure the wait for the Eiffel Tower. Totally agree with the Madame Tussauds or any wax-works, for that matter. Anyone any experience of the other attractions, particularly times to visit to avoid queues.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                          Wow, I'm half way there: Madame Tussauds, London - Done The Sex Museum, Amsterdam - Done Amsterdam; well and truely done. Bondi Beach, Sydney - Never been that far south The Chichen Itza sound and light show, Mexico - I'd like to do Chichen Itza; but not the show. Rodeo Drive, Los Angeles - Done Angkor Wat, Cambodia - Cambodia is on my list of countries to visit. The Grand Canyon Skywalk, Arizona - Done the Canyon but not the Skywalk. Zipwiring through a rainforest - Meh, balloon for me please. Val D’Isère, France - Done; well one has to. Dunn’s River Falls, Jamaica - Looks fun, probably isn't Sunset on Santorini, Greece - I'll skip this, okay? The Louvre, Paris - Done Las Vegas, Nevada - Done. Do it oncve and only once. Ya hear? Land's End, Cornwall - Going this Sunday Stonehenge, Wiltshire, UK - Done Eiffel Tower, Paris - Done


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                            Wow, I'm half way there: Madame Tussauds, London - Done The Sex Museum, Amsterdam - Done Amsterdam; well and truely done. Bondi Beach, Sydney - Never been that far south The Chichen Itza sound and light show, Mexico - I'd like to do Chichen Itza; but not the show. Rodeo Drive, Los Angeles - Done Angkor Wat, Cambodia - Cambodia is on my list of countries to visit. The Grand Canyon Skywalk, Arizona - Done the Canyon but not the Skywalk. Zipwiring through a rainforest - Meh, balloon for me please. Val D’Isère, France - Done; well one has to. Dunn’s River Falls, Jamaica - Looks fun, probably isn't Sunset on Santorini, Greece - I'll skip this, okay? The Louvre, Paris - Done Las Vegas, Nevada - Done. Do it oncve and only once. Ya hear? Land's End, Cornwall - Going this Sunday Stonehenge, Wiltshire, UK - Done Eiffel Tower, Paris - Done


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            Wow, I'm half way there:

                            So only half dead then?

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                              When I lived in Larkhill (A tiny place near Amesbury) I would pass Stonehenge every day. I always thought to myself,"It's just a bunch of Stones" and never visited it. Many years later, I went there properly and paid up and wandered around with the 'informative' headphones. And I was awestruck. Mainly by the sheer effrontery of being charged good money to walk around what turned out to be "Just a bunch of Stones".

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                              If you can visit Avebury[^]. There is a series of standing stones and massive earth ring-works so large that the village is inside them. It has a much better atmosphere, and a decent pub with a fruity barmaid IIRC. There is a visitor's centre which is worth a visit (Oddly, another of Wife's supervisors was in charge there for a while - just shows how nepotistic that whole world is) but most of the site is free. One word of warning though: The cafe in the visitor's centre is solely vegetarian, which royally hacked me off (I had a craving for a ham sandwich) because you know henge, spiritual, oooooooh-aaaaaaaaaah therefore vegetarian wet-liberal type reasoning. I wouldn't be happy with a cafe only serving non-vegetarian food, why should I be happy with one that is purely vegetarian? But then I'm from the North :-). I doubt the people who built the henge held much truck in vegetarianism either, given the amount of stone-age slaughtered deer and other hoof-base deliciousnesses that has been found.

                              Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                                Wow, I'm half way there: Madame Tussauds, London - Done The Sex Museum, Amsterdam - Done Amsterdam; well and truely done. Bondi Beach, Sydney - Never been that far south The Chichen Itza sound and light show, Mexico - I'd like to do Chichen Itza; but not the show. Rodeo Drive, Los Angeles - Done Angkor Wat, Cambodia - Cambodia is on my list of countries to visit. The Grand Canyon Skywalk, Arizona - Done the Canyon but not the Skywalk. Zipwiring through a rainforest - Meh, balloon for me please. Val D’Isère, France - Done; well one has to. Dunn’s River Falls, Jamaica - Looks fun, probably isn't Sunset on Santorini, Greece - I'll skip this, okay? The Louvre, Paris - Done Las Vegas, Nevada - Done. Do it oncve and only once. Ya hear? Land's End, Cornwall - Going this Sunday Stonehenge, Wiltshire, UK - Done Eiffel Tower, Paris - Done


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                                Actually, I have done Dunns River, it was fun! But the hawkers at the top are annoying.

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                                  Peter Stone? Peter as in The Rock, from the Greek, Petros? So he was a Rock and a Stone?

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                                  Yes, and he was in charge of Stonehenge. Would make a great QI type fact, it also made his name very easy to remember, a very nice chap BTW.

                                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                    Wow, I'm half way there:

                                    So only half dead then?

                                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                    If I get another 40+ years then I'll accept I'm 'half way' :-D


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                                      If you can visit Avebury[^]. There is a series of standing stones and massive earth ring-works so large that the village is inside them. It has a much better atmosphere, and a decent pub with a fruity barmaid IIRC. There is a visitor's centre which is worth a visit (Oddly, another of Wife's supervisors was in charge there for a while - just shows how nepotistic that whole world is) but most of the site is free. One word of warning though: The cafe in the visitor's centre is solely vegetarian, which royally hacked me off (I had a craving for a ham sandwich) because you know henge, spiritual, oooooooh-aaaaaaaaaah therefore vegetarian wet-liberal type reasoning. I wouldn't be happy with a cafe only serving non-vegetarian food, why should I be happy with one that is purely vegetarian? But then I'm from the North :-). I doubt the people who built the henge held much truck in vegetarianism either, given the amount of stone-age slaughtered deer and other hoof-base deliciousnesses that has been found.

                                      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                                      Keith Barrow wrote:

                                      hoof-base deliciousnesses

                                      :laugh: Go to Glastonbury (The Town, not the Festival), and it too is filled with happy-clappy, drippy-hippy, starry-eyed, pot-headed, weird-haired, spiritualistic nutters. But it does have a load of pubs and a couple of nice restaurants that serve meat.

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                                        List[^] I've never been to Vegas but can imagine it being as described. Although I would not even think of going there for a vacation longer than one day unless I wanted to play poker. The last time I visited Stone Henge there was no visitor infrastructure, you could simply walk up to the henge, touch the stones or sit on them if you wanted to. I found it a strangely haunting place. Unless you are a Geologist, Archeologist or similar, though, I would find it hard to imagine a visit of more than about an hour remaining interesting. I have been to Paris many times. I had no problems with queues at the Louvre itself nor in viewing The Mona Lisa. However, in my many visits I have never had the patience to endure the wait for the Eiffel Tower. Totally agree with the Madame Tussauds or any wax-works, for that matter. Anyone any experience of the other attractions, particularly times to visit to avoid queues.

                                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                        Henry Minute wrote:

                                        The last time I visited Stone Henge

                                        Luckily I went there before it really go commercial and yep it seemed to be just a bunch of stones, I couldn't image paying for inspecting them. I preffered the white horse in the hill somewhere nearby and they haven't worked out how to charge for that! I did however do the Paris queue and the walk up to the Sacre Cour. I thought the Cupola above Rome was almost as good.

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                                          The best place to see Paris from is the top of Sacre Coeur on Mont Marte.(The Mountain of Mars!) Long walk up though!

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                                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                                          Could be: was last there around 1980, playing football and seeing the sights. Was on the top of the Arc De Triomphe and bumped into someone I knew! Small world.

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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