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    Andrew Peace
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    Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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      Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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      Christian Skovdal Andersen
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      what sliding sidebar - am I missing something here?? Christian Skovdal Andersen

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        Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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        Dhandapani Ammasai
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        It's pretty cool and I liked it. Chris, may be you can publish an article on how to do the sliding side bar! --------------- Dan Ammasai ---------------

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          what sliding sidebar - am I missing something here?? Christian Skovdal Andersen

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          Dhandapani Ammasai
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          Click on an article. THe side bar will vanish. Try to move your mouse over the left cornor. THe side bar will show up. --------------- Dan Ammasai ---------------

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          • A Andrew Peace

            Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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            Carlos Antollini
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            Hey Chris!!!! CLAP!!!, CLAP!!!, CLAP!!!, CLAP!!! Very Nice. :) Carlos Antollini.

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              It's pretty cool and I liked it. Chris, may be you can publish an article on how to do the sliding side bar! --------------- Dan Ammasai ---------------

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              Farhan Noor Qureshi
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              You can see Dynamic Drive and 24Fun with many examples of browser specific and cross-browser DHTML goodies. BTW: CP's sliding navigation bar does not work in Netscape. Anyway, nice work, Chris! Farhan Noor Qureshi

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              • A Andrew Peace

                Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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                Jon Sagara
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                Yes, no kidding. It's damn sexy! Jon Sagara

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                • F Farhan Noor Qureshi

                  You can see Dynamic Drive and 24Fun with many examples of browser specific and cross-browser DHTML goodies. BTW: CP's sliding navigation bar does not work in Netscape. Anyway, nice work, Chris! Farhan Noor Qureshi

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Yeah, but what the hell does work in Netscape ? I fought for them in the browser wars, and they rolled over & died. Goes to show what skill I have picking the winning team... Wait a minute - can anyone recommend a book on C# ?? :) Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things left by those who got there first.

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                  • A Andrew Peace

                    Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    That ol' thing? :-O Glad you like it! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    • A Andrew Peace

                      Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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                      Jim A Johnson
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                      Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but this thing, while maybe technically interesting, is _really_ annoying. It's precisely the kind of valueless UI gimmick that adds nothing to the usability of the product, decreases reliability (since it brings in more code), and distracts the user from the task at hand. Thumbs down.

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                        Yeah, but what the hell does work in Netscape ? I fought for them in the browser wars, and they rolled over & died. Goes to show what skill I have picking the winning team... Wait a minute - can anyone recommend a book on C# ?? :) Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things left by those who got there first.

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                        David Cunningham
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                        Hey Christian, You picked CodeProject didn't you :) Your luck can't be all bad. D

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                          Hey Christian, You picked CodeProject didn't you :) Your luck can't be all bad. D

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                          Christian Graus
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                          I picked CodeGuru first, and what a disaster that was. Their whole login system was, and is, totally screwed. But you're right - I got there in the end. Plus I chose C++ instead of VB, Hungry Jacks over McDonalds, guitar over piano accordion, my wife over those other chicks that were around at the time....... Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things left by those who got there first.

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                            Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but this thing, while maybe technically interesting, is _really_ annoying. It's precisely the kind of valueless UI gimmick that adds nothing to the usability of the product, decreases reliability (since it brings in more code), and distracts the user from the task at hand. Thumbs down.

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                            CodeGuy
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                            Hm, Jim, many software products are successful because they are "gimmicks". Off the top of my head, wallpaper for Windows, skinnable apps, and the Winamp Visualizer come to mind. However, these things are cool because either a) they let the user personalize the interface or b) the behavior is fun (Winamp and Chris's sidebar fall in this category). If all UI work was utilitarian in nature, we'd still be using the Windows 3.1 interface. Bleah!

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                              Hey, Just thought I drop a note to say how cool your sliding sidebar is! Nice work! > Andrew.

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                              Alvaro Mendez
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                              I agree, it's pretty cool. :) It's curious that just yesterday I saw this kind of thing for the first time on another website. Microsoft's Zone.com (yes I'm still playing games) had a regular-looking-rectangular banner ad that when you put the cursor over it expanded down to cover almost the whole screen space below it. It was pretty impacting... and it works just like CodeProject's: when the mouse is removed, it goes back to it's regular size. I found it pretty innovative, albeit a bit annoying for something like a banner ad. This one is nice though. Nice work! Alvaro

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                                Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but this thing, while maybe technically interesting, is _really_ annoying. It's precisely the kind of valueless UI gimmick that adds nothing to the usability of the product, decreases reliability (since it brings in more code), and distracts the user from the task at hand. Thumbs down.

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Thanks for the comments Jim. I added it because I was sick and tired of trying to navigate from an article to the main sections via the homepage or section Table of Contents. I designed it so that it was slim and out of the way, and I was actually wondering if people would even notice it (as I said, it's kind of a quiet test). Is it really getting in the way that much? I could add a timer that waits for a 1-2 second hover before it moves over. Just let me know how many bugs you want with that extra piece of code :D Other options are that I could just trash it, or move to a fixed menu, or have a setting in your Settings page that allows you to disable it. Lemme know. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  Thanks for the comments Jim. I added it because I was sick and tired of trying to navigate from an article to the main sections via the homepage or section Table of Contents. I designed it so that it was slim and out of the way, and I was actually wondering if people would even notice it (as I said, it's kind of a quiet test). Is it really getting in the way that much? I could add a timer that waits for a 1-2 second hover before it moves over. Just let me know how many bugs you want with that extra piece of code :D Other options are that I could just trash it, or move to a fixed menu, or have a setting in your Settings page that allows you to disable it. Lemme know. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  Jim A Johnson
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                                  Glad you apprecieate the comments. UI designers tend to agree that soething occuring just because you move your mouse - without actually doing something overt to initate an action, such as clicking - is a Bad Thing. Tool tips are an exception to this, because they are small and unobtrusive, though. Were this my app, I'd drop it. Since some people seem to like it, you should probably just allow it to be turned off in the settings. One thing I'm curious about, though: I have animation turned off on my machine, so that menus pop up immediately, etc. When I tried to use AnimateWindow(), however, nothing heppened - indicating that this function respects that setting. However, I've noticed that a few apps - IM, and this sidebar of yours - animate regardless of that setting. How does that work?

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                                    Glad you apprecieate the comments. UI designers tend to agree that soething occuring just because you move your mouse - without actually doing something overt to initate an action, such as clicking - is a Bad Thing. Tool tips are an exception to this, because they are small and unobtrusive, though. Were this my app, I'd drop it. Since some people seem to like it, you should probably just allow it to be turned off in the settings. One thing I'm curious about, though: I have animation turned off on my machine, so that menus pop up immediately, etc. When I tried to use AnimateWindow(), however, nothing heppened - indicating that this function respects that setting. However, I've noticed that a few apps - IM, and this sidebar of yours - animate regardless of that setting. How does that work?

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                                    However, I've noticed that a few apps - IM, and this sidebar of yours - animate regardless of that setting. How does that work? I haven't looked at the sidebar code, but I imagine it's the IE equivalent of a Netscape LAYER that's originally off-screen, and gets moved 1 pixel at a time to produce the sliding effect. With MSN IM, those notification windows look totally owner-drawn (but they don't stay up long enough for me to spy on them with Spy++! ;) ), so the app can draw it however it likes. It could check the system setting and not animate its windows, it just doesn't. --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ #include "buffy_sig"

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                                      That ol' thing? :-O Glad you like it! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                      Oi, I think it's very cool! But it would be cooler :-) if I could enable/disable it from my prefs. Thx, Chris! /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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                                        You can see Dynamic Drive and 24Fun with many examples of browser specific and cross-browser DHTML goodies. BTW: CP's sliding navigation bar does not work in Netscape. Anyway, nice work, Chris! Farhan Noor Qureshi

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                                        Slavo Furman
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                                        Another very good site, if you need cross-browser DHTML stuff, is SiteExperts. SlavoF "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." --Confucius

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                                          Glad you apprecieate the comments. UI designers tend to agree that soething occuring just because you move your mouse - without actually doing something overt to initate an action, such as clicking - is a Bad Thing. Tool tips are an exception to this, because they are small and unobtrusive, though. Were this my app, I'd drop it. Since some people seem to like it, you should probably just allow it to be turned off in the settings. One thing I'm curious about, though: I have animation turned off on my machine, so that menus pop up immediately, etc. When I tried to use AnimateWindow(), however, nothing heppened - indicating that this function respects that setting. However, I've noticed that a few apps - IM, and this sidebar of yours - animate regardless of that setting. How does that work?

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                                          Hey Jim, The sidebar is just a floating table that's moved using javascript. I'll work on the toolbar when I need some light relief and see what I can come up with :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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