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  • T Todd Smith

    Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.

    Todd Smith

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    Ian Shlasko
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    To Java, or not To Java... That is the question! Whether 'tis nobler in the browser to suffer The crashes and failures of faulty coding, Or to rise up against a sea of horrible applets, And by blocking, end them.

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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    • T Todd Smith

      Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.

      Todd Smith

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      Lost User
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      Are Vuze/Azureus users "average"? How about RuneScape players? The only reason I keep Java around is that my University insists we do practical assignments in Java and I don't feel comfortable submitting untested code. But why do you ask, it's just one of those "install when needed" things, right?

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      • T Todd Smith

        Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.

        Todd Smith

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Todd Smith wrote:

        Does the avg. user need Java installed?

        No!

        Todd Smith wrote:

        I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash

        Very rare! I have not seen anyone using Java Applets except for a few academic websites.

        Todd Smith wrote:

        The stupid thing seems to update every week.

        That is the only way you will know that there is something called Java. Come on no one uses it (except in the business world), so how will anyone know that there is something called Java? The only way is to popup with an update notification every time you reboot your machine.

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        • T Todd Smith

          Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.

          Todd Smith

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          OriginalGriff
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          I need Java. Lots and lots of Java.[^]

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • T Todd Smith

            Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.

            Todd Smith

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            leppie
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            I only need Jaba for 2 things: - Eclipse (which is a pretty decent IDE nowadays) for uC development - Circuit[^]

            ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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              The average user needs 18% Java! ;P

              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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              fjdiewornncalwe
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              You are super, I couldn't function without at least 25%

              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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              • F fjdiewornncalwe

                You are super, I couldn't function without at least 25%

                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                Dalek Dave
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                Tea is better. All those tannins get the brain working :)

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                • L leppie

                  I only need Jaba for 2 things: - Eclipse (which is a pretty decent IDE nowadays) for uC development - Circuit[^]

                  ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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                  Maximilien
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                  Crap that circuit link automatically launch an applet... X|

                  Watched code never compiles.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Tea is better. All those tannins get the brain working :)

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                    fjdiewornncalwe
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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    Tea is better.

                    You MUST be english... :laugh: Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                    • F fjdiewornncalwe

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Tea is better.

                      You MUST be english... :laugh: Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Tea is the absolute pinnacle of civilisation.

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                      • F fjdiewornncalwe

                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        Tea is better.

                        You MUST be english... :laugh: Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                        I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                        Johnny J
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                        PogoboyKramer wrote:

                        (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                        I prefer Irish Cream with a small shot of coffee in it...

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                        • J Johnny J

                          PogoboyKramer wrote:

                          (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                          I prefer Irish Cream with a small shot of coffee in it...

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                          fjdiewornncalwe
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                          I was trying to keep the "G" rating on this one, but I'm in full agreement with you.

                          I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                            I was trying to keep the "G" rating on this one, but I'm in full agreement with you.

                            I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                            Johnny J
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                            PogoboyKramer wrote:

                            I was trying to keep the "G" rating on this one

                            Why would you want to do that?

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                            • T Todd Smith

                              Does the avg. user need Java installed? I'm sure a few niche websites using applets might crash and burn but for the majority of users WTF is Java even used for anymore? The stupid thing seems to update every week.

                              Todd Smith

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                              Single Step Debugger
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                              Todd Smith wrote:

                              Does the avg. user need Java installed?

                              No. If you not develop on Java you don’t need their virtual machine installed. The most web app using Java and JSP are used in the intranet corporate networks. AFAIK nobody uses applets or Java swing anymore.

                              The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                              • J Johnny J

                                PogoboyKramer wrote:

                                I was trying to keep the "G" rating on this one

                                Why would you want to do that?

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                                fjdiewornncalwe
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                                Some members have sensitive eyeballs.

                                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                • F fjdiewornncalwe

                                  Some members have sensitive eyeballs.

                                  I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                  Johnny J
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                                  PogoboyKramer wrote:

                                  Some members have sensitive eyeballs.

                                  That almost calls out for a misinterpretation, but I will leave it at that out of respect for the sensitive members... :-D

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                                    PogoboyKramer wrote:

                                    Some members have sensitive eyeballs.

                                    That almost calls out for a misinterpretation, but I will leave it at that out of respect for the sensitive members... :-D

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                                    fjdiewornncalwe
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                                    Pun was fully intended :-D

                                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                    • F fjdiewornncalwe

                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      Tea is better.

                                      You MUST be english... :laugh: Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                                      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                      CalvinHobbies
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                                      PogoboyKramer wrote:

                                      You MUST be english... Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                                      Timmies, the fuel of Champions. :D I can't go near work without passing 4.

                                      ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                                        PogoboyKramer wrote:

                                        You MUST be english... Canadians drink coffee because it also performs the duties of antifreeze. (With a nice shot of Irish Cream in it)

                                        Timmies, the fuel of Champions. :D I can't go near work without passing 4.

                                        ///////////////// Groucho Marx Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.

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                                        fjdiewornncalwe
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                                        NightJammer wrote:

                                        I can't go near work without passing 4.

                                        You must have a really short commute then.

                                        I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          Tea is the absolute pinnacle of civilisation.

                                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                          Henry Minute
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                                          And this[^] is the pinnacle of civetization.

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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