New bludgeon for humanity, Now GW is untrendy, its BIODIVERSITY!
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Save me, Fat_Boy, Save me! Only you have the power to save us all. Thanks all the gods you've decided to spend your time here educating all us poor, poor deluded souls. Only you have the power and the knowledge. SAVE ME, FB!!!! SAVE ME!!!!
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Oh, jesus, I can't pass that one up.... Hey, shithead!! Let's take a poll and find out who enjoys greater respect here, you or Ian. For intellect, for spelling, anything at all. I'll vote for Ian. How many do you think you'll get? Besides your own, that is. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: (Had to touch up the grammar - I was laughing too hard to get it right the first time.)
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modified on Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:08 AM
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I thought raising heads was your hobby. Somehow related to your inability to see humor in farts, I believe; Josh seems to have nailed the source of your ... discomfort? with that subject.
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Provide a few names of species created by man as distinct from breeds.
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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Joining the calls for evidence on this one, as I'd find it fascinating. Have we actually gone so far as to have created a new species? If so, do we have records of the speciation process? This is the kind of thing that evolutionary biologists would kill for last I knew. I thought we'd done it with fruit flies and a few thousand isolated generations, a few types of bacteria, but nothing higher than that. And for the remainder of it, just how many have we directly wiped out? I'm assuming this doesn't count things such as introducing invasive species, so the more well known cases like the Dodo wouldn't count. That'd be a fairly significant difference, despite humanity's involvement. Though I am aware we have domesticated many breeds, we haven't done much for nature in doing so, hell most of the critters we've domesticated will die off without us fairly quickly.
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Wheat, maize, tomatoes, potatoes.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
thats funny species :-\
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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thats funny species :-\
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
Aparently the edible tomato is. The wild tomato, from which it was aparently bred, is a different species. As is the potato. Anyway, the discussion here is biodiversity. And regardless of whether you consider dogs as breds or species they are certainly more diverse than the grey wolf from which is the same species. So, my point is valid. Mankind has created more biodiversity than he has intentionally eradicated. He is also actively trying to maintain endangered species (and bring back extinct ones, the Quagga for example).
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
modified on Friday, October 29, 2010 7:00 AM
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Aparently the edible tomato is. The wild tomato, from which it was aparently bred, is a different species. As is the potato. Anyway, the discussion here is biodiversity. And regardless of whether you consider dogs as breds or species they are certainly more diverse than the grey wolf from which is the same species. So, my point is valid. Mankind has created more biodiversity than he has intentionally eradicated. He is also actively trying to maintain endangered species (and bring back extinct ones, the Quagga for example).
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
modified on Friday, October 29, 2010 7:00 AM
fat_boy wrote:
Mankind has created more biodiversity than he has intentionally eradicated.
How do you know how many species have been intentionally eradicated, how many have been unintentionally eradicated and how many created? Again, where is the evidence for numbers of species eradicated and created? Can you point me to some respected and accepted studies that at least provide some good estimates of the numbers involved?
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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fat_boy wrote:
Mankind has created more biodiversity than he has intentionally eradicated.
How do you know how many species have been intentionally eradicated, how many have been unintentionally eradicated and how many created? Again, where is the evidence for numbers of species eradicated and created? Can you point me to some respected and accepted studies that at least provide some good estimates of the numbers involved?
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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No, its just some stuff I read some time back. Doubt it exists on line.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
So there is no evidence to support your claim? As a committed supporter of scientific good practice, I assume you will now recant or at least withdraw the claim. :-D
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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So there is no evidence to support your claim? As a committed supporter of scientific good practice, I assume you will now recant or at least withdraw the claim. :-D
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
I found some stuff on wiki about crops created by selective breeding resulting in new species but didnt find a comprehensive list. And yes, I could have been lying, but anyway, it shows that man has intentionally increased biodiversity as well as reduced it. :) And in anycase, the point of my post is that if they do to Biodiversity what they did to GW then its going to loose public support.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription