Google cars
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In Italy there are legal suits against google cars for invasion of privacy... extreme thinking isn't it?
federico.strati wrote:
google cars
Google car rental service? Google car repair service?
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federico.strati wrote:
google cars
Google car rental service? Google car repair service?
Go and never darken my towels again - Groucho Marx
Those services are only for the millionaires. ;) Imagine the price just for taking your car in the cloud :rolleyes: Not to mention the actual services. Google cars would have to climb down, take pictures... It's complicated trust me! :)
I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.
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Why? There's a difference between taking a few photos, and taking millions of photos and oi! How did their silverware end up in our trunk?
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyI disagree, it's not about the amount of photos what so ever. Not even the purpose is important IMAO. It's about where and how the photos are taken and whether it is an invasion of the privacy or not. Same rules and laws should apply for everyone no matter whether you're a big corporation or a private hobby photographer.
"When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert
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In Italy there are legal suits against google cars for invasion of privacy... extreme thinking isn't it?
This is the part I like: Google admitted that the WiFi-equipped vehicles it sends to take photographs for Google Maps had inadvertently also grabbed emails and passwords. Inadvertantly? Puhlease, my BS meter just pegged.
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In Italy there are legal suits against google cars for invasion of privacy... extreme thinking isn't it?
Its amazing as here in the UK they are not being done for taking the pictures as that apparently is legal. What they are being done for is taking the passwords and emails from unencrypted wireless networks. Google has also done a small u turn on the taking of pictures of your homes with an opt out scheme
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I disagree, it's not about the amount of photos what so ever. Not even the purpose is important IMAO. It's about where and how the photos are taken and whether it is an invasion of the privacy or not. Same rules and laws should apply for everyone no matter whether you're a big corporation or a private hobby photographer.
"When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
It's about where and how the photos are taken ... Same rules and laws should apply for everyone
If that is the case, then the presidence has already been set by local government and police depts, with their masses of CCTV equipment (at least in the UK anyway)
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This is the part I like: Google admitted that the WiFi-equipped vehicles it sends to take photographs for Google Maps had inadvertently also grabbed emails and passwords. Inadvertantly? Puhlease, my BS meter just pegged.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
If you're stupid enough to broadcast your emails/passwords on an unencrypted wireless connection then you deserve everything you get. The same goes for the recent news reports related to firesheep.
Simon
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In Italy there are legal suits against google cars for invasion of privacy... extreme thinking isn't it?
The real point is another. This kind of lawsuit would even be fine, IF that was our biggest problem. Frankly, I don't give a damn about Google cars harvesting WiFi data (my network uses WPA2), I'd just prefer that the same resources were spent in a more useful way.
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If you're stupid enough to broadcast your emails/passwords on an unencrypted wireless connection then you deserve everything you get. The same goes for the recent news reports related to firesheep.
Simon
Simon P Stevens wrote:
If you're stupid enough to broadcast your emails/passwords on an unencrypted wireless connection then you deserve everything you get.
I agree. Besides, here in Italy you're responsible for what goes through your connection, so if someone uses your network for illegal activities, then you could be charged too.
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I disagree, it's not about the amount of photos what so ever. Not even the purpose is important IMAO. It's about where and how the photos are taken and whether it is an invasion of the privacy or not. Same rules and laws should apply for everyone no matter whether you're a big corporation or a private hobby photographer.
"When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert
Why I think scale is important: The purpose of laws is to regulate a society and find a compromise between different interests. Technology is a driving factor in change of what is acceptabel in science. Techological change usually happens in these steps: (1) New Development (2) Initial prototypes products available to a few (3) Change of scale (4) Available to the majority In stage 2, the new technology is usually opt-in, if i don't care about it, or actively oppose it, I can avoid it with minor affect to my life. In stage 4, it becomes opt-out, usually requiring a major change in lifestyle (usually heading for the woods). In our example, Stage 2 would be setting up a web cam, and directing it at my neighbors window. In most countries, the neighbor - once he knows - can make me stop without having to move away. You might argue that a webcam is completely different from a one-time photo. Again, the difference is only one of scale. Is a monthly google car acceptable? An hourly? A stationary? The purpose of opposition is not to stop the technology: The purpose is to slow down adoption to the technology, so that society as a whole can adapt. (Usually one generation growing up with it is enough). The technology is here to stay. The initial applications might not be. Long term, this opposition is of course silly. That has be argued ad nauseam. But that position ignores completely the reason of opposition: who shapes the world we live in in 10 years? I distrust private companies at least as much as any government you cite. It's a placeholder: In a way, privacy advocates have to thank google: They've put diminishing privacy into the evening news. Google Streetview is by far not the worst problem here, but it something that the majority understands, is affected by, and has an idea how to stop it.
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The real point is another. This kind of lawsuit would even be fine, IF that was our biggest problem. Frankly, I don't give a damn about Google cars harvesting WiFi data (my network uses WPA2), I'd just prefer that the same resources were spent in a more useful way.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Continuous Localization and My Startup
I had the same thought, every wireless network I have set-up has used WPA2, MAC based ACL and does not broadcast the SSID so anyone complaining about "stolen" data really has an unsecured wireless network.
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In Italy there are legal suits against google cars for invasion of privacy... extreme thinking isn't it?
Don't see it as a big deal: I opted out to see if they would and they did!
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I had the same thought, every wireless network I have set-up has used WPA2, MAC based ACL and does not broadcast the SSID so anyone complaining about "stolen" data really has an unsecured wireless network.
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs
Problem this "Anyone who" are exactly the people who drove WiFi to become ubiquitous, fast and cheap - or freely availabe.
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