Windows Phone 7 :(
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I was happy with my phone which could do phone call. Oh yeah, and SMS. Due to peer pressure I bought one of those fancy phone. More precisely a Windows Phone 7! My main intention with it, apart use it to give phone call and send SMS, was to do some WP7 development testing! :) But then I just had a bad surprise... You need a subscription of US$99 / year to Microsoft to even deploy on your own phone at home! Infuriating practice learnt from Apple no doubt! But now I have a useless phone, it's more expensive than the previous one and I can't even deploy my Silverlight 4 app to it! :mad: Ho well, I guess it's not too much, I'll just wait to have something interesting and develop on the emulator in the meantime... :(( Other than that I have no idea how good or bad it is, it is my 1st fancy phone, but it seems brisk enough, access SMS, email, Facebook, twitter, take nice pictures, internet explorer work well (reading CP with it! :P )
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
You don't deploy silverlight apps. People browse to the web and if your browser has the right plugin, it just works. You could always just test on your desktop, can't you?
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Super Lloyd wrote:
You need a subscription of US$99 / year to Microsoft to even deploy on your own phone at home! Infuriating practice learnt from Apple no doubt!
This sounds reasonable move because it will filter some of the crappy applications from the app store. The problem as I see it is that you are able to deploy app ONLY from the app store. IMO this is a huge mistake…I mean Apple type of mistake! If they start using the same approach for Windows and PC today, I estimate the Windows market share will shrink from 90% to 9% in about two years.
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This is a problem I have with iWhatever devices. I'm developing apps that are internal apps for our business only, they should never find their way outside the company because they are specific for some things we do. About every week I hear some genius saying "hey, we should run this on our iPhone!", but, AFAIK, the only way to get something on the iPhone is through the public app store. Not good for software we want to keep within the company.
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Super Lloyd wrote:
But now I have a useless phone, it's more expensive than the previous one and I can't even deploy my Silverlight 4 app to it!
And you did not bother researching this beforehand? :confused:
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poor Lloyd wrote:
Due to peer pressure
She's probably hot.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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You don't deploy silverlight apps. People browse to the web and if your browser has the right plugin, it just works. You could always just test on your desktop, can't you?
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001He is talking about Windows Phone 7 Silverlight apps. They need to be developed and deployed on the phone. Contrary to the desktop browser, the mobile browser is Windows Phone 7 does not display the embedded SilverLight content.
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This is a problem I have with iWhatever devices. I'm developing apps that are internal apps for our business only, they should never find their way outside the company because they are specific for some things we do. About every week I hear some genius saying "hey, we should run this on our iPhone!", but, AFAIK, the only way to get something on the iPhone is through the public app store. Not good for software we want to keep within the company.
It will be absolutely the same with the Windows phones. Our management have asked Microsoft/we are in top 10 of their biggest customers/ about this very problem last week and the answer has been “no”. No private stores, no private rooms in their store no corporate app farms or whatsoever in that extend.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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poor Lloyd wrote:
Due to peer pressure
She's probably hot.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyFair do to the chap then.
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This is a problem I have with iWhatever devices. I'm developing apps that are internal apps for our business only, they should never find their way outside the company because they are specific for some things we do. About every week I hear some genius saying "hey, we should run this on our iPhone!", but, AFAIK, the only way to get something on the iPhone is through the public app store. Not good for software we want to keep within the company.
Wjousts wrote:
FAIK, the only way to get something on the iPhone is through the public app store. Not good for software we want to keep within the company.
That's not true at all. The Apple's enterprise development program ($250 / 5 devs) allows you to develop and deploy enterprise applications on iPhone without deploying them to the app store.
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You don't deploy silverlight apps. People browse to the web and if your browser has the right plugin, it just works. You could always just test on your desktop, can't you?
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Ah, but for WP7, Silverlight and XNA are the two ways to develop apps for the phone (if I recall correctly). And strangely enough, I believe I read that the browser on the phone doesn't support Silverlight web apps.
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It will be absolutely the same with the Windows phones. Our management have asked Microsoft/we are in top 10 of their biggest customers/ about this very problem last week and the answer has been “no”. No private stores, no private rooms in their store no corporate app farms or whatsoever in that extend.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
:omg: That is just so stupid, you would expect that if a business has an application that it only want to use in-house the last thing that is wanted is to HAVE to deploy it to an open marketplace where anyone can get a copy of it. MS must not want business to use WP7 in-house.
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I was happy with my phone which could do phone call. Oh yeah, and SMS. Due to peer pressure I bought one of those fancy phone. More precisely a Windows Phone 7! My main intention with it, apart use it to give phone call and send SMS, was to do some WP7 development testing! :) But then I just had a bad surprise... You need a subscription of US$99 / year to Microsoft to even deploy on your own phone at home! Infuriating practice learnt from Apple no doubt! But now I have a useless phone, it's more expensive than the previous one and I can't even deploy my Silverlight 4 app to it! :mad: Ho well, I guess it's not too much, I'll just wait to have something interesting and develop on the emulator in the meantime... :(( Other than that I have no idea how good or bad it is, it is my 1st fancy phone, but it seems brisk enough, access SMS, email, Facebook, twitter, take nice pictures, internet explorer work well (reading CP with it! :P )
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Wjousts wrote:
FAIK, the only way to get something on the iPhone is through the public app store. Not good for software we want to keep within the company.
That's not true at all. The Apple's enterprise development program ($250 / 5 devs) allows you to develop and deploy enterprise applications on iPhone without deploying them to the app store.
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It will be absolutely the same with the Windows phones. Our management have asked Microsoft/we are in top 10 of their biggest customers/ about this very problem last week and the answer has been “no”. No private stores, no private rooms in their store no corporate app farms or whatsoever in that extend.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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I wasn't saying that it wasn't the same. In fact, my point was that it is. Not sure why somebody down voted me except for daring to question Apple.
Wjousts wrote:
Not sure why somebody down voted me except for daring to question Apple.
I was wondering the same, there are a strange people. I will try to compensate, though it’s someone with a good reputation.
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Ah, but for WP7, Silverlight and XNA are the two ways to develop apps for the phone (if I recall correctly). And strangely enough, I believe I read that the browser on the phone doesn't support Silverlight web apps.
How f*cking absurd is that? Why the f*ck are we wasting our time developing silverlight stuff if their own OS doesn't support it?
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
How f*cking absurd is that? Why the f*ck are we wasting our time developing silverlight stuff if their own OS doesn't support it?
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001What mobile devices do support Silverlight? I'd say WP7 must have Silverlight support baked into the OS since you use it to develop phone apps. My guess would be that support for it in IE Mobile won't be far behind. To directly answer your question, you're building SL web apps to target desktop browsers (for now anyway).
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1st bullet point: The Windows Phone OS 7.0 device must be registered and unlocked. For more information, see How to: Use the Developer Registration Tool for Windows Phone. => http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff769508(v=VS.92).aspx "A Windows Live ID and valid App Hub developer account are required for this tool to work."
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Super Lloyd wrote:
But now I have a useless phone, it's more expensive than the previous one and I can't even deploy my Silverlight 4 app to it!
And you did not bother researching this beforehand? :confused:
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
Exactly my point! What a PITA! I'm sure, I mean I hope, they will fix that! We should apply customer pressure!
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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I was happy with my phone which could do phone call. Oh yeah, and SMS. Due to peer pressure I bought one of those fancy phone. More precisely a Windows Phone 7! My main intention with it, apart use it to give phone call and send SMS, was to do some WP7 development testing! :) But then I just had a bad surprise... You need a subscription of US$99 / year to Microsoft to even deploy on your own phone at home! Infuriating practice learnt from Apple no doubt! But now I have a useless phone, it's more expensive than the previous one and I can't even deploy my Silverlight 4 app to it! :mad: Ho well, I guess it's not too much, I'll just wait to have something interesting and develop on the emulator in the meantime... :(( Other than that I have no idea how good or bad it is, it is my 1st fancy phone, but it seems brisk enough, access SMS, email, Facebook, twitter, take nice pictures, internet explorer work well (reading CP with it! :P )
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
I've avoided developing for the i* for specifically this reason. I was going to get a Win Phone 7, but it looks like I'm going to go to Android. Stupid mistake MS.
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What mobile devices do support Silverlight? I'd say WP7 must have Silverlight support baked into the OS since you use it to develop phone apps. My guess would be that support for it in IE Mobile won't be far behind. To directly answer your question, you're building SL web apps to target desktop browsers (for now anyway).
Well silly me - I figured SL was going to be SL no matter where you used it. Granted, mobiles have smaller screens, but SL should just be SL...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Well silly me - I figured SL was going to be SL no matter where you used it. Granted, mobiles have smaller screens, but SL should just be SL...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Yeah, and SL is supported on the phone, but they (oddly, IMO) didn't include browser support for it. As I said earlier, I'd be surprised if browser support weren't on the way. I agree that it's a surprising omission (perhaps an understatement there?), given that SL is used to develop apps for the phone.