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Have we really progressed or is all this just another shade of DOS

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  • T tomonthebay

    I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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    wout de zeeuw
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    tomonthebay wrote:

    I want a paradigm shift!

    You missed the cloud? :zzz:

    Wout

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    • H Henry Minute

      Won't be long now. Clickety[^]

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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      Mike Hankey
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      I wonder if M$ is going to create the interface software?, then we would have a 3D holographic ??? screen of death. Would that be cool or what? :)

      Fishmore & Dolittle - Retirement Planning & Consultants http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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        I wonder if M$ is going to create the interface software?, then we would have a 3D holographic ??? screen of death. Would that be cool or what? :)

        Fishmore & Dolittle - Retirement Planning & Consultants http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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        Henry Minute
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        I'll bet it'll still be blue.

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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        • T tomonthebay

          I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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          Mike Hankey
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          We've progressed as far as we can with the tools and imagination we currently possess. Until another Bill Gates comes along with another way to use computers we will continue to have Windows 7,8,9,10,.....360? But hey I've been saying that for years when it used to be DOS 3.0, 4.0,...

          Fishmore & Dolittle - Retirement Planning & Consultants http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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          • T tomonthebay

            I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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            Soulus83
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            Click?[^]

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            • S SinghUlarity

              You are not alone http://www.concept-phones.com/nokia/mokia-8015-lean-coffee-making-machine/[^]

              I are n00b.

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              Ravi Sant
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              lol. nice one.

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              • W wout de zeeuw

                tomonthebay wrote:

                I want a paradigm shift!

                You missed the cloud? :zzz:

                Wout

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                ghle
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                Same stuff, different location, and you don't know where that is, and can't secure the data. You mean that shift? ;P

                Gary

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                  Same stuff, different location, and you don't know where that is, and can't secure the data. You mean that shift? ;P

                  Gary

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                  wout de zeeuw
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                  Well, the requirement was "paradigm shift", not "paradigm shift that makes things better". ;P

                  Wout

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                  • T tomonthebay

                    I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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                    Michael Kingsford Gray
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                    Learn FORTRAN IV

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                    • T tomonthebay

                      I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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                      Barnical Bill
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                      Well the Army Special Operations Forces (Green Berets) in Afghanistan are using the andorid with some new aps. Put it in your pocket and use the voice to text to construct some of their formatted messages and send them without touching the device. Kinda handy when your hands are full. So we could take this from text and pictures to voice control and a smidgen of automation. I'd think GPS directions would fit this model well. "GPS, take me to, MacDonalds, 4th and main" and the phone starts giving turning commands. Perhaps not a paridime shift but it is starting to look and sound more like the assistant that I always envisioned instead of this thing I have to futs with. Short of putting a PCIMCIA card slot in the back of my head. On a similar note, Cloud computting smells very much like the old dumb terminals and mainframe setup that we had in the 70s except now we have the bandwidth to make it happen outside the mainframe's building.

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                        I'll bet it'll still be blue.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        Maybe but just think in 3D surround sound and Bill Gates speaking in a Godly voice (Maybe burning bush thrown in for effect) saying "you will not have this problem in the current version of windows, upgrade now."

                        Fishmore & Dolittle - Retirement Planning & Consultants http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                        • T tomonthebay

                          Too funny! love the coffee phone!

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                          Alan Burkhart
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                          tomonthebay wrote:

                          Too funny! love the coffee phone!

                          That's nothing. I have a digital camera that also serves as a GPS unit and a cell phone. Oh, wait... :laugh:

                          Everybody SHUT UP until I finish my coffee...

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                            Well the Army Special Operations Forces (Green Berets) in Afghanistan are using the andorid with some new aps. Put it in your pocket and use the voice to text to construct some of their formatted messages and send them without touching the device. Kinda handy when your hands are full. So we could take this from text and pictures to voice control and a smidgen of automation. I'd think GPS directions would fit this model well. "GPS, take me to, MacDonalds, 4th and main" and the phone starts giving turning commands. Perhaps not a paridime shift but it is starting to look and sound more like the assistant that I always envisioned instead of this thing I have to futs with. Short of putting a PCIMCIA card slot in the back of my head. On a similar note, Cloud computting smells very much like the old dumb terminals and mainframe setup that we had in the 70s except now we have the bandwidth to make it happen outside the mainframe's building.

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                            Caslen
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                            Barnical Bill wrote:

                            Cloud computting smells very much like the old dumb terminals and mainframe setup that we had in the 70s except now we have the bandwidth to make it happen outside the mainframe's building

                            I knew I'd seen all that 'cloud' hype before! :)

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                            • T tomonthebay

                              I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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                              M i s t e r L i s t e r
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                              You know... I agree with you 100%. I have been coding for 15 years now ( kudos to you for keeping in the game as long as you have ) and have noticed the same stuff as well : C - make all new controls and build applications C++ - make all new controls and build applications MFC - make all new controls and build applications COM - make all new controls and build applications .NET - make all new controls and build applications WEB - make all new controls and build applications Cloud - make all new controls and build applications BUT they are all doing the same old stuff... list boxes, tree controls and putting stuff into a DB. I think it is kind of like shelter, the materials change, but we keep building boxes to live in We are doomed by our own imaginations.

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                              • T tomonthebay

                                I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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                                User 4595697
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                                You obviously haven't seen this phone: http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm?r=0

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                                • T tomonthebay

                                  I have been coding for 25 plus years and every time I open a "new and better" version of something I get this very sad feeling that we really have not progressed much. Recently setting up an ODBC connection (for the gazillionth time) and reading the MS help is like reading a latin translation of a Led Zeppelin song in Chinese’s. Other than Android is there ANYTHING NEW OUT THERE... Why cant my cell phone make coffee or something!! New technology..Big deal, it can send and receive text/verbal messages and tell me where I am. It's funny over 25 years to go from a little screen with green letter to a big screen with pictures and then back to a little screen with pictures and letter! I want a paradigm shift!

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                                  JasonPSage
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                                  I agree 100% - this is my biggest gripe about technology... especially when indignant green horns call us old timer because we like things that are tried and true... that in short simply work. I think software has bloated significantly with little real benefit... except needing faster and faster machines to read email... Code might be an Art. Machine creation might be an art form. Taking an existing machine and making it do miracles with smart code? Artform! Starting over from scratch in every technology that comes out for software development? Crazy. Taking lean and mature programming languages and making existing machines scream? Priceless!

                                  Know way too many languages... master of none!

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