Help with serial data display

turbosupramk3

I am trying to read serial data from a microchip. Using the simple serial c# project I am able to read the characters being sent, but I am not able to delineate carriage returns and so the correct data will stream across the screen until the programs input box end and then it will wrap around to the next line and continue to stream, an example would be

seveneightnineteneleventwelvethirteen
fourteenfifteensixteenseventeeneighteen

instead of

seven
eight
nine
ten
eleven
twelve
thirteen
fourteen
fifteen
sixteen
seventeen
eighteen

Does anyone know how I can recognize the carriage returns? They should come through as an ascii character "13" and the serial data protocol is 8 databits no paraty one stopbit (8N1) at a baudrate between 9600 and 115200 baud. Thanks!

OriginalGriff

What have you tried? Are you checking each character as it arrives, or just passing the stream onto the input box? Are you handling them as characters or bytes? Post the relevant code fragments so we can tell what you are doing - that should help us to help you!

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Lost User

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.io.ports.serialport.readline.aspx[^]

turbosupramk3

Hi, Here is the guts of it

      private void Form1\_FormClosing(object sender, FormClosingEventArgs e)
      {
          if (serialPort1.IsOpen) serialPort1.Close();
      }

      private void textBox1\_KeyPress(object sender, KeyPressEventArgs e)
      {
         
          if(!serialPort1.IsOpen) return;

          char\[\] buff = new char\[1\];

          buff\[0\] = e.KeyChar;

          serialPort1.Write(buff, 0, 1);

          e.Handled = true;
      }

      private void DisplayText(object sender, EventArgs e)
      {
          textBox1.AppendText(RxString);
         
      }

      private void serialPort1\_DataReceived
        (object sender, System.IO.Ports.SerialDataReceivedEventArgs e)
      {
          RxString = serialPort1.ReadExisting();
          this.Invoke(new EventHandler(DisplayText));
      }

OriginalGriff

The first thing which springs to mind is: Don't read the text into a string and invoke a routine to handle it. The only logical reason for doing that is to get the execution onto the GUI thread - which may not execute it immediately. If a single other character arrives in the mean time, it will discard your existing data. Better to get the data in the invoked method instead, or add it to a queue (my preference). Regarding your problem with new lines: Are you sure you are receiving them? Remember that ReadExisting translates according tgo the encoding (Strings are generally Unicode, serial ports are generally ASCII). I would be tempted to either try using ReadLine instead of ReadExisting, or ReadAllBytes and display the data as Hex, at least in the early stages. I also wouldn't want to use a TextBox - a ListBox might be better as it doesn't slow down lots when the strings start to get large.

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turbosupramk3

Hi OG, What do you think about using a rich text box? That would be ideal for me. I do have to preface this that I am new to c# and o.o and changing parameters around sometimes FUBARs everything because I'm new. I am sure I am receiving the (13) because I have a barebones serial reader application that can read them correctly. With this statement "Don't read the text into a string and invoke a routine to handle it. The only logical reason for doing that is to get the execution onto the GUI thread - which may not execute it immediately." How would I add it to a queue, I'm hoping that the data will stream up to the data rate speed without issue. When it is going across the screen it does not appear to be missing bits in the string I am sending.

Luc Pattyn

In .NET a new line is triggered by a LF (0x10) or "\n", a preceeding CR (0x13) is optional. Most other systems react on CR and tolerate an optional LF. If your microprocessor isn't sending any LF then all data will be on a continuous line by default. There are many ways to remedy that, here is one you may like: 1. tell your serial port you want LF as NewLine indicator, by setting mySerialPort.NewLine="\r"; 2. now read text lines using mySerialPort.ReadLine() Furthermore, I would avoid the DataReceived event in this case; I'd rather have an explicit thread performing ReadLine() in a loop, and invoking the Control that is going to process it right away. I agree with Griff a ListBox is more suited for long, line-oriented texts; I must add going from a TextBox to a RichTextBox is a step backward, performance wise. It too holds all text in one big string internally (even when you use the AppendText method, which is better than Text=Text+newText). :)

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turbosupramk3

Thanks for the reply Luc I will try to get this up and running tonight per your instructions, I thought rich text would be good because of the ability to color format things, but maybe not. Speed would be up to 20 mips per second max, slower than that in reality, probably more like 1 mips in reality. I will setup the newline/readline and if I can get that working, setup the listbox. Thanks :)

Luc Pattyn

If all you need is homogeneous line coloring (say lots of black lines, a few green or red), then that isn't very hard to do with a ListBox. I have an example here[^]. :)

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OriginalGriff

Luc seems to have covered it all pretty well in his answer - good luck!

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turbosupramk3

Hi Luc, I tried what you suggested and it still isn't working, its behavior remains unchanged. I also tried sending the serial data as a "(10)" instead of a "(13)" and that did not work either, it actually wouldn't read anything with the 10. Should I try and send a different ascii character or stick with the 13?

Luc Pattyn

I suggest you validate the incoming bytes somehow. I see basically two ways to do that: 1. use a terminal emulator (such as good old HyperTerminal) and see what comes in. 2. better, use SerialPort class in binary mode, basically something along these lines:

SerialPort port=new SerialPort();
// take care of opening and port settings
...
// do whatever is needed to have the peripheral send something
...
// wait for enough data to arrive
Thread.Sleep(5000);
// read all of it now
int DIM=300;
byte[] bytes=new byte[DIM];
int n=port.Read(bytes,0,DIM);
for(int i=0; i<n; i++) {
byte b=bytes[i];
char c=b;
log("bytes["+i+"]=0x"+b.ToString("X2")+"="+c);
}

where log is a simple logging method, could be:

public static void log(string s) {
Console.WriteLine(s);
}

:)

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turbosupramk3

Hi Luc, Here is what it looks like with the OE program, so it is working correctly. There has to be something I'm missing here? < > http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4316/serialterminal.png[^] Here is my code after all kinds of tweaks or attempts to get this to work, if you'd like anything else just let me know. Thanks!

using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.ComponentModel;
using System.Data;
using System.Drawing;
using System.Text;
using System.Windows.Forms;
using System.IO.Ports;

namespace SimpleSerial
{
public partial class Form1 : Form
{
// Add this variable

      string RxString;
      
      public Form1()
      {
          InitializeComponent();
          string\[\] theSerialPortNames = System.IO.Ports.SerialPort.GetPortNames();
          /\*MessageBox.Show(theSerialPortNames\[0\]);
          MessageBox.Show(theSerialPortNames\[1\]);
          MessageBox.Show(theSerialPortNames\[2\]);
          MessageBox.Show(theSerialPortNames\[3\]);\*/
          //MessageBox.Show(theSerialPortNames\[4\]);
          //MessageBox.Show(theSerialPortNames\[5\]);
      }


      private void buttonStart\_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
      {
          serialPort1.PortName = "COM7";
          serialPort1.BaudRate = 115200;
          
          serialPort1.Handshake = Handshake.None;
          


          serialPort1.Open();
          if (serialPort1.IsOpen)
          {
              buttonStart.Enabled = false;
              buttonStop.Enabled = true;
              textBox1.ReadOnly = false;
          }
      }

      private void buttonStop\_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
      {
          if (serialPort1.IsOpen)
          {
              serialPort1.Close();
              buttonStart.Enabled = true;
              buttonStop.Enabled = false;
              textBox1.ReadOnly = true;
          }

      }

      private void Form1\_FormClosing(object sender, FormClosingEventArgs e)
      {
          if (serialPort1.IsOpen) serialPort1.Close();

Luc Pattyn

Hi, some comments: 1. as your terminal emulator is working, it would be time to try the binary mode I have shown earlier. It has the advantage of (a) showing the exact bytes you're getting, and (b) you're using your own code (as opposed to the terminal emulator). 2. you should set the port's properties right when you open it, and not in its DataReceived handler, i.e. after having gotten some data already. 3.

turbosupramk3 wrote:

serialPort1.NewLine = "(13)";

that is non-sense. You need a CR character, which is represented by \r in C-like languages. cfr my first reply. 4. I wouldn't use a single TextBox for both input and output, at least until everything works well. I also wouldn't spend all that effort in the GUI stuff until such moment that the serial comm is working fine. I think you're getting closer to the solution! :)

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davidwz

Do you wite firmware on microcomputer? try to change 0x0d to (0x0a 0x0d)

ColinBurnell

I suspect your problem is with how ReadExisting() handles the carriage returns; it may well be expecting a carriage return line feed pair of characters, to indicate a new line. If I am using Serial port for text data, I get the data as a byte array; and then convert it to a string, either using Encoding - Encoding.ASCII.GetString(myByteArrray) or manually processing each character if I need to handle specific bytes individually. Off the top of my head, I can't remember if GetString will convert a striaght carriage return to a new line; but if not you can process each byue of the array in turn, detecting the carriage return and adding Environment.NewLine in it's place to the string. Hope this helps.

turbosupramk3

Hi Colin, Maybe I can send it different characters for a line feed ... do you happen to know what pair of characters is it expecting? With the byte array, are you just filling it up with 8 bits, and then at the stop bit converting it to a string?

Adam Yonce

I have had luck writing serial data from a PIC microcontroller to a textbox using the following code in C#:

private void serialPort1_DataReceived_1(object sender, System.IO.Ports.SerialDataReceivedEventArgs e)
{
txtToDisplay = serialPort1.ReadExisting();
DisplayText();
}

public void DisplayText()
{
if (txtIn.InvokeRequired)
{
this.BeginInvoke(new MethodInvoker(DisplayText));
}
else
{
txtIn.AppendText(txtToDisplay);
}
}

Also, I set the comm port parameters in the same place I open the port, rather than the receive event:

private void GetComPorts() //populate the comm port list with the available system ports
{
foreach (string s in SerialPort.GetPortNames() )
{
lbPort.Items.Add(s);
}
}

private void btnOpen_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{

 this.lbPort.SelectedIndex = this.lbPort.TopIndex;          // which port?
 this.lbRate.SelectedIndex = this.lbRate.TopIndex;          // baud rate?
 this.lbProtocol.SelectedIndex = this.lbProtocol.TopIndex;  // N,8,1 or N,7,1 (strings in a collection)

 string crlf = Environment.NewLine;                         // this might be the real trick...

 serialPort1.BaudRate = Int32.Parse(lbRate.Text);
 serialPort1.PortName = lbPort.Text;

 serialPort1.Open();

 if (serialPort1.IsOpen)
 {
    btnOpen.Enabled = false;
    btnClose.Enabled = true;

    txtIn.AppendText(string.Format("Port {0} opened successfully." + crlf, serialPort1.PortName));
            
 }

}

Anyway, this seems to work in my situation. Also, my PIC code is using "\r\n" so I am actually sending a {10} and a {13} pair. Hope this helps, Adam

turbosupramk3

Hey Luc, I tried \r and \n too :) with no luck then I was trying the string value and I tried Chr(13) as well with no luck. I will try the binary thing tonight and see what bits I am getting

turbosupramk3

Hi Adam, Thanks! I will try that at home and see how it works with my uC. I did not try sending a 10 and 13, that might be worth a try as well!