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  • I Indivara

    and gullibility.

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    Henry Minute
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    Did you know that the Oxford University Press missed 'gullibility' out of the latest edition of their dictionary?

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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      Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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      Lost User
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      To be honest, they are mostly looking for one thing no school can really provide much of: Experience. It's probably best to show that you learn and adapt quickly to whatever your new employer may require.

      A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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      • K khuzwayom

        Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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        Lost User
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        A degree?

        Je m'en fous

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        • H Henry Minute

          So you've met my secretary[^]?

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          Dr Walt Fair PE
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          That adds a whole new dimension to the expression "spank the monkey" ...

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          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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          • N NormDroid

            Ya pay peanuts and ya get monkeys :-\

            Software Kinetics - Moving Software

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            Lost User
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            :(|)

            Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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            • H Henry Minute

              Did you know that the Oxford University Press missed 'gullibility' out of the latest edition of their dictionary?

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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              Did you check?

              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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              • N NormDroid

                Ya pay peanuts and ya get monkeys :-\

                Software Kinetics - Moving Software

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                Steve Mayfield
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                bananas -> monkeys, peanuts -> elephants :rolleyes:

                Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                • K khuzwayom

                  Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                  Ravi Sant
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                  certification! and logical skills

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    Did you know that the Oxford University Press missed 'gullibility' out of the latest edition of their dictionary?

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    Indivara
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                    Ha ha! I'm not falling for that again. DD already got me once.

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                    • I Indivara

                      Ha ha! I'm not falling for that again. DD already got me once.

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                      Henry Minute
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                      Boo! You're no fun any more. :laugh:

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                      • S Slacker007

                        khuzwayom wrote:

                        What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate?

                        I know that the company that I work for looks for candidates that have a strong skill set in a few languages/concepts. We go by the addage "A Jack of all trades and master of none." You should try to master at least 2-3 core languages/concepts. --My 2 cents.

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                        khuzwayom
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                        Thank you for your input.

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                        • K khuzwayom

                          Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                          khuzwayom
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                          Thank you to everyone who took their time and answered the question. And for the laugh among the comments.

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                            khuzwayom wrote:

                            What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate?

                            I know that the company that I work for looks for candidates that have a strong skill set in a few languages/concepts. We go by the addage "A Jack of all trades and master of none." You should try to master at least 2-3 core languages/concepts. --My 2 cents.

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                            draghu
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                            If the question is what software dev companies look from a graduate just of college, then I strongly believe that he/she cannot master 2-3 core languages. Concepts, yes. Algorithms, Data structures, C, C++, Operating systems etc. Languages come and go, concepts stay.

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                            • K khuzwayom

                              Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                              BrainiacV
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                              When I am interviewing, I want to hear you did something besides just the class assignments. I want to know what personal project you worked on and how you solved the problems it presented. That skill matches more of what you will need besides being able to rattle off by rote the meanings of polymorphism, etc...

                              Psychosis at 10 Film at 11

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                                Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                                Joel Palmer 0
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                                A School degree proves that you have some initiative and enough debt to be motivated to be a dedicated employee. What I've found is that they want someone who has a good foundation in technology but even more... a willingness... no, a strong drive... no, a lifestyle of learning. A degree only gets you some attention because the foundation is set. If a company is going to hire a new graduate what they are after is molding you into the developer they want you to be. Get them excited about you by asking them questions about their corporate and IT/IS culture. Then, talk about how excited you would be to work with them and that you're willing to learn anything and take some ownership to see them/the company succeed.

                                Joel Palmer Data Integration Engineer

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                                • K khuzwayom

                                  Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                  Optimally, they need someone who is relatively clever, eager to learn, and humble. The cleverness aspect is a no brainer - you don't want someone who just doesn't get it. Someone that is eager to learn, is someone who wants to better themselves. Those who wants to better themselves also wants to make the product(s) better. Humbleness is also very important, so that he or she can work with other people. You don't want one individual that is impossible to work with. The best thing one can do when you feel that something is on the wrong track is to humbly show why it is on the wrong track. Someone who's just pointing fingers and declaring the others stupid, eventhough they might be the brightest on the planet, is just going to be ignored and quite possibly shunned. If I were to have an interview with a graduate, and he or she showed me intelligence, a humble attitude, and that he or she doesn't really know anything despite their good grades, I would hire on the spot.

                                  -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                  • K khuzwayom

                                    Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                                    1. College degree in CS or CSE, or math or EE if they're older. Yeah, there's a few very smart self taught folks. But mostly the guys I've had in who didn't have degrees turned out to be people who couldn't focus or sit still for any goal that took more than two weeks to achieve. Not good choices. 2. They can spell and proofread their resumes. Your resume is an advertisement, that if I like, I'm going to pay you enough to buy a condo, every year. I immediately bin any resume with spelling or grammar errors or messy formatting (unless it's one of those ASCII-only horrors you get from monster). Anyone who can't produce a tidy resume cannot possibly produce working code, and demonstrably can't produce documentation. 3. Relevant experience OK, this is obvious, but if I'm hiring a C++ guy, I don't bring in a python guy. And if I'm hiring a C++ guy and a VB guy applies, I assume they just can't read or don't care, and bin their resume. 4. Evidence of thinking Did the candidate work on hard stuff or just 100 add/change/delete screens. Did they sound like they were proud of the work they did. Did they pick their jobs or just take what came by. Did they pick my company or just send everyone and their dog a resume. Then we get into the interview...

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                                      Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                                      Michael Kingsford Gray
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                                      When I used to hire raw graduates, what made the differences between 2 similarly qualified candidates were their 1) extra-curricular knowledge: hobbies (electronics, knitting), clubs (motor-racing, night) 2) Attitude: (Manners, civility, HUMILITY) 3) How well they looked after themselves (grooming, hygiene) 4) Problem-solving intelligence 5) Any unexpected thing that they bring to the meeting that surprises me in a positive manner. It is my company, and they are my rules!

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                                      • K khuzwayom

                                        Hi All I have always found help here on Code Project, thank you for all the assistance all these years. Please help me again by answering this question. What are the key things that software development companies look for from a graduate? Ideally, things that can distinguish the graduate from the rest. Thank you in advanced for your contribution.

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                                        SCCatman
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                                        Experience: projects, volunteer work, extracurricular programming, work on open source projects, top coder compititions. These show interest in programming beyond a pay check. Don't see many grads with certs (which is great for those that do), but that would be a big plus, MS certs show a fair degree of knowledge beyond just the syntax that you get in into to C# programming. I would not pay the big bucks for classes, I would more respect for those who bought the self study books and did it on their own. Best wishes, Dennis

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                                        • K khuzwayom

                                          Thank you to everyone who took their time and answered the question. And for the laugh among the comments.

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                                          khuzwayom
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                                          Thank you everyone. I greatly appreciate your contribution. Keep well :)

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