I just got screwed over by a classmate… [modified]
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We got a project due in 2 weeks and the teacher wanted to see how things where coming along. I showed him my project, what I was doing, what I had in mind, the problems I encountered just about everything I had been working on the last month. He was impressed and went off to check on someone else. About en hour later he calls me to his desk along with another class mate. Apparently we have identical projects, and when I say identical I mean identical, even the spellings errors match. I tried to convince the teacher that I made it myself, showed him my notes and backup’s, everything I had on the project. Even showed him the files I spread across the web as backups (my ftp at home, e-mail and a web-ftp I use for just about anything). Of course my classmate insists he made it and somehow convinced the teacher. The teacher isn’t unreasonable but since he can’t be sure who made it we both have to restart our projects, we do get 2 weeks extra. But I just can’t figure out how he got the files. I never leave my laptop/usb-drives unattended, the laptop is virus/Trojan free (I’m extremely careful when it comes to my laptop), there has been no unauthorised access on my ftp at home or the web-ftp and this particular e-mail has a 32 char password generated from 4 different 8 char password generators and is changed every week if I’m working on a project. And to rap it up all the files are encrypted. Yeah I’m somewhat paranoid, but this case proves that it’s not enough. I thought my security was good enough but apparently it’s still lacking. I know that every security can be cracked/hacked but this guy has had a few to many blows to the head and I don’t see him cracking it within 2 days. He got all my files from 2 days back. Am I missing something that just screws this kind of protection? On a side note, the time with the teacher was the only time I accessed the ftp/mail that was not from my home network (and I don’t even want to start about the security I have there). *Edit* fixed bin to been
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modified on Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:25 AM
At the school I went to it did not matter if you were the stealer or victim. The reasoning was more for when friends help class mates. There is no way for your teacher to know for sure that the 2 of you are not actually friends. So in the end it did not matter if he or you convinced the teacher that it was "Your" project. In the end you are both required to re-build under university rules. Again that was my school. Yours might be similar though. Check the cheating policies. Anyways, sucks that you have to start over. Good luck!
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yeah, that's the ticket. :laugh:
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If he really stole your work, perhaps he's outlived his usefulness ? ? ?
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If he really stole your work, perhaps he's outlived his usefulness ? ? ?
I agree. Off with his head.
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Oh, don't bother. Here, for instance, we are used doing someone else's homework... :-\
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I think the fact that we was using double-spaces after periods provided an attack vector for a key logger.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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We got a project due in 2 weeks and the teacher wanted to see how things where coming along. I showed him my project, what I was doing, what I had in mind, the problems I encountered just about everything I had been working on the last month. He was impressed and went off to check on someone else. About en hour later he calls me to his desk along with another class mate. Apparently we have identical projects, and when I say identical I mean identical, even the spellings errors match. I tried to convince the teacher that I made it myself, showed him my notes and backup’s, everything I had on the project. Even showed him the files I spread across the web as backups (my ftp at home, e-mail and a web-ftp I use for just about anything). Of course my classmate insists he made it and somehow convinced the teacher. The teacher isn’t unreasonable but since he can’t be sure who made it we both have to restart our projects, we do get 2 weeks extra. But I just can’t figure out how he got the files. I never leave my laptop/usb-drives unattended, the laptop is virus/Trojan free (I’m extremely careful when it comes to my laptop), there has been no unauthorised access on my ftp at home or the web-ftp and this particular e-mail has a 32 char password generated from 4 different 8 char password generators and is changed every week if I’m working on a project. And to rap it up all the files are encrypted. Yeah I’m somewhat paranoid, but this case proves that it’s not enough. I thought my security was good enough but apparently it’s still lacking. I know that every security can be cracked/hacked but this guy has had a few to many blows to the head and I don’t see him cracking it within 2 days. He got all my files from 2 days back. Am I missing something that just screws this kind of protection? On a side note, the time with the teacher was the only time I accessed the ftp/mail that was not from my home network (and I don’t even want to start about the security I have there). *Edit* fixed bin to been
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modified on Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:25 AM
I have a solution, but you'd have to get him to stand on a plastic tarp so things are easier to clean up...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
I have a solution, but you'd have to get him to stand on a plastic tarp so things are easier to clean up...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001I'm with you! Covering miscreants in gunge always works well.
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We got a project due in 2 weeks and the teacher wanted to see how things where coming along. I showed him my project, what I was doing, what I had in mind, the problems I encountered just about everything I had been working on the last month. He was impressed and went off to check on someone else. About en hour later he calls me to his desk along with another class mate. Apparently we have identical projects, and when I say identical I mean identical, even the spellings errors match. I tried to convince the teacher that I made it myself, showed him my notes and backup’s, everything I had on the project. Even showed him the files I spread across the web as backups (my ftp at home, e-mail and a web-ftp I use for just about anything). Of course my classmate insists he made it and somehow convinced the teacher. The teacher isn’t unreasonable but since he can’t be sure who made it we both have to restart our projects, we do get 2 weeks extra. But I just can’t figure out how he got the files. I never leave my laptop/usb-drives unattended, the laptop is virus/Trojan free (I’m extremely careful when it comes to my laptop), there has been no unauthorised access on my ftp at home or the web-ftp and this particular e-mail has a 32 char password generated from 4 different 8 char password generators and is changed every week if I’m working on a project. And to rap it up all the files are encrypted. Yeah I’m somewhat paranoid, but this case proves that it’s not enough. I thought my security was good enough but apparently it’s still lacking. I know that every security can be cracked/hacked but this guy has had a few to many blows to the head and I don’t see him cracking it within 2 days. He got all my files from 2 days back. Am I missing something that just screws this kind of protection? On a side note, the time with the teacher was the only time I accessed the ftp/mail that was not from my home network (and I don’t even want to start about the security I have there). *Edit* fixed bin to been
saru mo ki kara ochiru (even monkeys fall from trees) Usualy i'm that monkey. If you want an intelligent answer, Don't ask me. To understand Recursion, you must first understand Recursion.
modified on Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:25 AM
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We got a project due in 2 weeks and the teacher wanted to see how things where coming along. I showed him my project, what I was doing, what I had in mind, the problems I encountered just about everything I had been working on the last month. He was impressed and went off to check on someone else. About en hour later he calls me to his desk along with another class mate. Apparently we have identical projects, and when I say identical I mean identical, even the spellings errors match. I tried to convince the teacher that I made it myself, showed him my notes and backup’s, everything I had on the project. Even showed him the files I spread across the web as backups (my ftp at home, e-mail and a web-ftp I use for just about anything). Of course my classmate insists he made it and somehow convinced the teacher. The teacher isn’t unreasonable but since he can’t be sure who made it we both have to restart our projects, we do get 2 weeks extra. But I just can’t figure out how he got the files. I never leave my laptop/usb-drives unattended, the laptop is virus/Trojan free (I’m extremely careful when it comes to my laptop), there has been no unauthorised access on my ftp at home or the web-ftp and this particular e-mail has a 32 char password generated from 4 different 8 char password generators and is changed every week if I’m working on a project. And to rap it up all the files are encrypted. Yeah I’m somewhat paranoid, but this case proves that it’s not enough. I thought my security was good enough but apparently it’s still lacking. I know that every security can be cracked/hacked but this guy has had a few to many blows to the head and I don’t see him cracking it within 2 days. He got all my files from 2 days back. Am I missing something that just screws this kind of protection? On a side note, the time with the teacher was the only time I accessed the ftp/mail that was not from my home network (and I don’t even want to start about the security I have there). *Edit* fixed bin to been
saru mo ki kara ochiru (even monkeys fall from trees) Usualy i'm that monkey. If you want an intelligent answer, Don't ask me. To understand Recursion, you must first understand Recursion.
modified on Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:25 AM
I take it you did all of the work for the project on your own laptop? What do you use the USB drive for (backups)? And what OS are you running? Trojans / mallware / rootkits etc. can be installed by simply plugging in a USB device into your computer (I'm assuming Windows here). At that point it doesn't matter what protection you have on your ftp / web-ftp etc. as its easy to bypass everything and in a harder to trace fashion once they can keylog etc. What email account are you referring to? One from school? He could have put a packet sniffer on the network as well so if you're doing anything on an unsecured protocol ....
Todd Smith
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bin there, dun that ;P
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I have a solution, but you'd have to get him to stand on a plastic tarp so things are easier to clean up...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001and didn't you just put together a new "tool" that needs a good workout ;)
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
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I think the fact that we was using double-spaces after periods provided an attack vector for a key logger.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001That deserves a 5! :thumbsup:
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I take it you did all of the work for the project on your own laptop? What do you use the USB drive for (backups)? And what OS are you running? Trojans / mallware / rootkits etc. can be installed by simply plugging in a USB device into your computer (I'm assuming Windows here). At that point it doesn't matter what protection you have on your ftp / web-ftp etc. as its easy to bypass everything and in a harder to trace fashion once they can keylog etc. What email account are you referring to? One from school? He could have put a packet sniffer on the network as well so if you're doing anything on an unsecured protocol ....
Todd Smith
Yeah, most of it on my laptop, and some of it on my PC. The usb drive is for backup and sometimes to transfer data between the PC and laptop, And I'm not ruling trojans, mallware and like out completely but its highly unlikely. I have a separate pc, on a separate network to "mess around" with and keep both my laptop and normal pc clean. And the only usb drives that have been used on them have never been used on other machines. The e-mail is hosted on the server of my brother-in-law who is also a security freak. And as far as I know about packet sniffers it would require you to transmit the files somewhere first. I do all my uploading at home and its close to impossible (for him) to get access to that. At most he could have gotten that way would be what I was looking up I guess that all I can do now is take it easy today and get ready to burn some midnight fuel to restart and finish this project on time.
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We got a project due in 2 weeks and the teacher wanted to see how things where coming along. I showed him my project, what I was doing, what I had in mind, the problems I encountered just about everything I had been working on the last month. He was impressed and went off to check on someone else. About en hour later he calls me to his desk along with another class mate. Apparently we have identical projects, and when I say identical I mean identical, even the spellings errors match. I tried to convince the teacher that I made it myself, showed him my notes and backup’s, everything I had on the project. Even showed him the files I spread across the web as backups (my ftp at home, e-mail and a web-ftp I use for just about anything). Of course my classmate insists he made it and somehow convinced the teacher. The teacher isn’t unreasonable but since he can’t be sure who made it we both have to restart our projects, we do get 2 weeks extra. But I just can’t figure out how he got the files. I never leave my laptop/usb-drives unattended, the laptop is virus/Trojan free (I’m extremely careful when it comes to my laptop), there has been no unauthorised access on my ftp at home or the web-ftp and this particular e-mail has a 32 char password generated from 4 different 8 char password generators and is changed every week if I’m working on a project. And to rap it up all the files are encrypted. Yeah I’m somewhat paranoid, but this case proves that it’s not enough. I thought my security was good enough but apparently it’s still lacking. I know that every security can be cracked/hacked but this guy has had a few to many blows to the head and I don’t see him cracking it within 2 days. He got all my files from 2 days back. Am I missing something that just screws this kind of protection? On a side note, the time with the teacher was the only time I accessed the ftp/mail that was not from my home network (and I don’t even want to start about the security I have there). *Edit* fixed bin to been
saru mo ki kara ochiru (even monkeys fall from trees) Usualy i'm that monkey. If you want an intelligent answer, Don't ask me. To understand Recursion, you must first understand Recursion.
modified on Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:25 AM
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What about date/time stamps on the files? Surely the ones on his files would be after yours. How about the teacher asking each of you what the project does? You should be able to explain it in detail whereas the other person would (likely) not.
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We got a project due in 2 weeks and the teacher wanted to see how things where coming along. I showed him my project, what I was doing, what I had in mind, the problems I encountered just about everything I had been working on the last month. He was impressed and went off to check on someone else. About en hour later he calls me to his desk along with another class mate. Apparently we have identical projects, and when I say identical I mean identical, even the spellings errors match. I tried to convince the teacher that I made it myself, showed him my notes and backup’s, everything I had on the project. Even showed him the files I spread across the web as backups (my ftp at home, e-mail and a web-ftp I use for just about anything). Of course my classmate insists he made it and somehow convinced the teacher. The teacher isn’t unreasonable but since he can’t be sure who made it we both have to restart our projects, we do get 2 weeks extra. But I just can’t figure out how he got the files. I never leave my laptop/usb-drives unattended, the laptop is virus/Trojan free (I’m extremely careful when it comes to my laptop), there has been no unauthorised access on my ftp at home or the web-ftp and this particular e-mail has a 32 char password generated from 4 different 8 char password generators and is changed every week if I’m working on a project. And to rap it up all the files are encrypted. Yeah I’m somewhat paranoid, but this case proves that it’s not enough. I thought my security was good enough but apparently it’s still lacking. I know that every security can be cracked/hacked but this guy has had a few to many blows to the head and I don’t see him cracking it within 2 days. He got all my files from 2 days back. Am I missing something that just screws this kind of protection? On a side note, the time with the teacher was the only time I accessed the ftp/mail that was not from my home network (and I don’t even want to start about the security I have there). *Edit* fixed bin to been
saru mo ki kara ochiru (even monkeys fall from trees) Usualy i'm that monkey. If you want an intelligent answer, Don't ask me. To understand Recursion, you must first understand Recursion.
modified on Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:25 AM
What you don't know is that his brother is in the security class in the next classroom and their project is to hijack the project of the most paranoid student in your classroom.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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So how did you deal with your classmate? Was there a confrontation? Were insults hurled and fists flying? That's what I want to know :)
Nothing yet. He stayed away from me yesterday. And for some reason hasn't shown up today. Still thinking up what I’m going to do with him. He can expect his next few days to be a living hell.
saru mo ki kara ochiru (even monkeys fall from trees) Usualy i'm that monkey. If you want an intelligent answer, Don't ask me. To understand Recursion, you must first understand Recursion.
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What you don't know is that his brother is in the security class in the next classroom and their project is to hijack the project of the most paranoid student in your classroom.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
